Is dating even worth it?

[SeymourCake]

I'm at the point of my life where I don't care anymore.

Too much mind games.
Too much c0ckblocking
Too much miscommunication
Too much emotions
Too much flaking

It's a cold world. It's every man for himself.

 

[GotED?]

I feel your sentiments.

I just NEXTed a HB6+ French GF of over a year LTR a month ago, although a quality trustworthy woman, couldn't put up with the emotional immaturity, helplessness, and drama.

Then I dated a HB8+ Polish woman who looked like Cameron Diaz replica but she was no better than a typical Russian gold-digger after asking me over to her place and cooked me a 4 course meal for Christmas dinner on a third date. (always be on the look out for motives).

At the same time, I was dating a HB8+ British woman single mother who was quite aligned spiritually with my belief system. But as with typical extremely attractive women, she was quite self-centered, lacked empathy, lack feminine quality, and was cold as ice exterior wise (typical of British women).

I have NEXTED all of them LOL.....

I had promised myself since having a BPD ex-GF a while back, that I would rather be alone than be in misery with another woman who did not bring happiness into my life and make it better than before.

Recent deduction from my experiences speaks to my senses that I need to DATE DOWN. There's gold nuggets in mildly attractive women with a more sensible soul deep inside. I am getting tired of dating highly attractive women as they are boring, self-centered, gold-digging, and lack empathy because they never had to learn to care about anyone else since they get it all due to their looks.

So perhaps you need to revise your strategy in what you are seeking. I seek a deeper emotional connection over the physical shallow attraction. I don't expect most men on here to understand, because if one has not been with an HB8+ then they will almost seek it for the rest of their life to satisfy their ego and bragging rights.

However, once you been there enough times, it is a desert devoid of anything deep and relevant in these shallow women.

Don't be despaired - just focus on what you are looking for and don't settle for anything less. Always be willing to walk away from women at anytime.

Be well.

Exodus

 

[Robert28]

Dating use to not only be fun, but it was easy too. Now it feels like a fvcking job and I find myself getting burned out easily from it. Like I'll get to where I become lazy and don't put effort into it for a spell. I used to not have to put hardly ANY effort into it to be successful and now it's like I have to work like a son of a b!tch to get scraps. Fvck that. I had more dates and more girlfriends when I was broke as sh!t and now that I make good money it's like you can't get a d@mn thing. Someone told me that I needed to "show off that I have money more often so chicks will know". Why? I don't want to show off that I have money.

I also don't remember girls having all this baggage and being headcases like they are now.

 

[In2theGame]

I feel you bro. I dont have a problem with picking up women or even hooking up with them however after a while i would rather have one girl to spend time with and enjoy life with and thats where the headache begins. From my experience no matter what girl it is... It's lie after lie after lie. Just recently I had a girl HB9 I really liked and everything was going ok until she became very manipulative and ALWAYS made herself look like a "princess" aka victim when we had an argument, then the see saw began... one week she loved me and missed me, the next week i was an azzhole and a jerk. Theres no calm waters, everything is an emotional roller coaster. I cant deal with this type of **** and at the point of just giving up on having relationships or pro-longed dating with one girl.

 

[SamTheHobit]

Welcome to the end times, friends.

Well maybe that's an over exaggeration.. But are we that far off?

 

[PlayHer Man]

I'm at the point of my life where I don't care anymore.

Too much mind games.
Too much c0ckblocking
Too much miscommunication
Too much emotions
Too much flaking

It's a cold world. It's every man for himself.

Dating like a beta is definitely NOT worth it. Beta style dating is what the media and society teaches men --> How to kiss female ass.

The modern man is raised to live in a way that benefits women at his own expense. Only women's needs are valid and a man's emotions, desires and money is meaningless unless he is living in a way that benefits women (or a woman) :crackup:

Pedestalizing other people and taking a lower status yourself is never "worth it" so you are correct.

Here is what IS worth it:

- Living on your own terms
- Acquiring education and skills
- Learning how to manage money
- Being wise
- Spinning plates
- Freeing yourself from the roles other people try to place you in (especially women)

 

[GotED?]

Women are just phucken spoiled rotten in this day and age - most of it is our fault; if not now, then our AFC past history contributed to the societal reinforcement of sh!tty women behavior overall and the disrespect shown towards men now.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Nigga, You Need to Be Banned Pt. II

I'm at the point of my life where I don't care anymore.

Too much mind games.
Too much c0ckblocking
Too much miscommunication
Too much emotions
Too much flaking

It's a cold world. It's every man for himself.

I'm going to repost the same message that I left for Dhoulmagus on his thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2116968#post2116968

First of All, You Have to Do an Introspection

1) What Do You Want From Women?

a) Friendship

b) Companionship

c) Sex whenever you want

d) A relationship


2) Ask yourself, "Why do I suck with Women?

a)Is my wardrobe out of style or wack ass f*ck? If so, buy some new clothes.

b)Is My Grill F*cked Up?

If so, start going to the dentist every six months like your suppose to. If you need braces, get your teeth straighten. If you lack the money for the braces, start saving or look into orthodontists who might have payment plans.

Check your local dentistry school and be a "guinea pig," for students studying orthodontics and see if they'll give you braces for free or at a discounted rate. You might also want to get your teeth whiten. If push come to shove, borrow the money or take out a loan.

3) Is Your Body F*cked Up?

Are you fat? If so, go get a physical and tell the doctor that you want to start a workout regime. Tell your doctor what you goals are and what kind of food you should eat. You might also want to consult a nutritionist also.

a) Are you skinny or just an average body type?

If so, get your a$$ into shape. Unlike women, we don't have spend tens of thousands of dollars, have evasive surgery, and foreign objects injected and/or inserted into ourselves to change or body type. All we as men have to do is eat properly and workout five days out of the week.

Go to this website and follow this plan:

http://hundredpushups.com/week1.html....ZNaVVca3.dpbs

4) Do You Lack Money?

Unfortunately, the lack of income will have an adverse on you psychologically. The only thing you can do to remedy this problem is to gain the skills necessary to increase your revenue streams.

5) Are You Groomed?

If not, improve you grooming habits.

Go to the barber twice a mouth and keep your hair neat and lined up. The same applies with facial hair. Shave EVERY DAY. I know that the hipsters have them in style, but beards don't work for everybody. For most dudes, a beard will hide your face and some chicks don't like the feeling of hair on their inner thighs.

6) Start Getting Pedicures and Manicures

Yeah, I know this sounds gay as f*ck by proper hand and feet maintenance is important.

a) First of all it sends the message that your clean and you pay attention to detail.

b) You have to get the dead skin and callouses off of your hands and feet.

c) Women are in nail salons. It provides the opportunity for you to holla at chicks.

7) Learn How to Care for Your Skin

Start getting facials, as with pedicures and manicures it sends the message that you're clean and you pay attention to detail.

After you've done that you have to figured out what have worked for you in the past. One of the most profound things that I've ever heard Mystery say was "that unless your a virgin, you've had some success with women in your life. You just have to figure out what you did to become successful.

That's exactly what you have to do, in addition to incorporating the things that you have learned, you have to continue on what have worked for you in the past.

You also need in field experience, LOT OF IT. I mean you have to literally holla at five to ten boards a day, in addition to going out on the weekend, I figure for a minimum of six months before you start to see any sort of results. I would also advise that you start a field journal so that you have a record of what went right and want went wrong.

This is a journey and it takes time. It took you life time to formulate these bad habits, so it's going to take you a minute get out of your comfort zone, eliminate the bad habits and formulate good ones. The question is are you patient and discipline enough to endure the learning curve? In short, do you want this for yourself bad enough?

Dhoulmagus, are you really about this life? Seriously, are you just saying this or are you in your heart of hearts, sincerely truly about this pick up artist (or in our case Don Juan,) lifestyle? If so, you need to watch this video, EVERYDAY FOR A MONTH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLsXz_I9lY

You're the guy Jeff is talking about. You want the chicks, you the chicks laying on this arm, that arm, on you're leg, on every part of your body, trying to bring you to the biggest ecstasy that a man could ever feel in life, (other than checking a big bank roll,) but I have to ask again, are you really and truly about this life. What you're asking for and what you want this going to take work, dedication, and an extraordinary amount of discipline.

I'll ask you again, Dhoulmagus, are you really about that life, because just today, you made this thread, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212014, Vice made this thread,

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212030, and some new cat named Bullezeye made this thread,

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212027.

The level of expertise you want to achieve will require you being able to endure being insulted, ignored, stood up, lied to, and out-and-out disrespected, my man. Are you willing to endure the learning curve? Is your ego strong enough to withstand, not days, not weeks, but probably months of what seems to be no progress until, one day it just seems to all magically fall together.

When you watch the video, in order to have p*ssy on call, you have to commit to and live this lifestyle EVERY F*CKING DAY! You have to stay in a b*tch'es face in order to generate the results you want. You say that you want a relationship and b*tches suck and f*cking you whenever you want, but are you willing and ready to commit yourself and do the things that are necessary to bring those dreams to fruition? In short, Dhoulmagus are you REALLY about that life?

 

[El Payaso]

I'm going to repost the same message that I left for Dhoulmagus on his thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2116968#post2116968

First of All, You Have to Do an Introspection

1) What Do You Want From Women?

a) Friendship

b) Companionship

c) Sex whenever you want

d) A relationship


2) Ask yourself, "Why do I suck with Women?

a)Is my wardrobe out of style or wack ass f*ck? If so, buy some new clothes.

b)Is My Grill F*cked Up?

If so, start going to the dentist every six months like your suppose to. If you need braces, get your teeth straighten. If you lack the money for the braces, start saving or look into orthodontists who might have payment plans.

Check your local dentistry school and be a "guinea pig," for students studying orthodontics and see if they'll give you braces for free or at a discounted rate. You might also want to get your teeth whiten. If push come to shove, borrow the money or take out a loan.

3) Is Your Body F*cked Up?

Are you fat? If so, go get a physical and tell the doctor that you want to start a workout regime. Tell your doctor what you goals are and what kind of food you should eat. You might also want to consult a nutritionist also.

a) Are you skinny or just an average body type?

If so, get your a$$ into shape. Unlike women, we don't have spend tens of thousands of dollars, have evasive surgery, and foreign objects injected and/or inserted into ourselves to change or body type. All we as men have to do is eat properly and workout five days out of the week.

Go to this website and follow this plan:

http://hundredpushups.com/week1.html....ZNaVVca3.dpbs

4) Do You Lack Money?

Unfortunately, the lack of income will have an adverse on you psychologically. The only thing you can do to remedy this problem is to gain the skills necessary to increase your revenue streams.

5) Are You Groomed?

If not, improve you grooming habits.

Go to the barber twice a mouth and keep your hair neat and lined up. The same applies with facial hair. Shave EVERY DAY. I know that the hipsters have them in style, but beards don't work for everybody. For most dudes, a beard will hide your face and some chicks don't like the feeling of hair on their inner thighs.

6) Start Getting Pedicures and Manicures

Yeah, I know this sounds gay as f*ck by proper hand and feet maintenance is important.

a) First of all it sends the message that your clean and you pay attention to detail.

b) You have to get the dead skin and callouses off of your hands and feet.

c) Women are in nail salons. It provides the opportunity for you to holla at chicks.

7) Learn How to Care for Your Skin

Start getting facials, as with pedicures and manicures it sends the message that you're clean and you pay attention to detail.

After you've done that you have to figured out what have worked for you in the past. One of the most profound things that I've ever heard Mystery say was "that unless your a virgin, you've had some success with women in your life. You just have to figure out what you did to become successful.

That's exactly what you have to do, in addition to incorporating the things that you have learned, you have to continue on what have worked for you in the past.

You also need in field experience, LOT OF IT. I mean you have to literally holla at five to ten boards a day, in addition to going out on the weekend, I figure for a minimum of six months before you start to see any sort of results. I would also advise that you start a field journal so that you have a record of what went right and want went wrong.

This is a journey and it takes time. It took you life time to formulate these bad habits, so it's going to take you a minute get out of your comfort zone, eliminate the bad habits and formulate good ones. The question is are you patient and discipline enough to endure the learning curve? In short, do you want this for yourself bad enough?

Dhoulmagus, are you really about this life? Seriously, are you just saying this or are you in your heart of hearts, sincerely truly about this pick up artist (or in our case Don Juan,) lifestyle? If so, you need to watch this video, EVERYDAY FOR A MONTH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLsXz_I9lY

You're the guy Jeff is talking about. You want the chicks, you the chicks laying on this arm, that arm, on you're leg, on every part of your body, trying to bring you to the biggest ecstasy that a man could ever feel in life, (other than checking a big bank roll,) but I have to ask again, are you really and truly about this life. What you're asking for and what you want this going to take work, dedication, and an extraordinary amount of discipline.

I'll ask you again, Dhoulmagus, are you really about that life, because just today, you made this thread, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212014, Vice made this thread,

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212030, and some new cat named Bullezeye made this thread,

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212027.

The level of expertise you want to achieve will require you being able to endure being insulted, ignored, stood up, lied to, and out-and-out disrespected, my man. Are you willing to endure the learning curve? Is your ego strong enough to withstand, not days, not weeks, but probably months of what seems to be no progress until, one day it just seems to all magically fall together.

When you watch the video, in order to have p*ssy on call, you have to commit to and live this lifestyle EVERY F*CKING DAY! You have to stay in a b*tch'es face in order to generate the results you want. You say that you want a relationship and b*tches suck and f*cking you whenever you want, but are you willing and ready to commit yourself and do the things that are necessary to bring those dreams to fruition? In short, Dhoulmagus are you REALLY about that life?

One of the best posts I have ever read. EVER.

 

[In2theGame]

When I read PlayHer Man's posts... I honestly felt it was good advice but too negative... but unfortunately... Im beginning to believe all his posts to be true 100% lol., You give women a finger, they want your hand, you give them your hand they want your arm, you give them your arm and so on.. they are never happy 100%. I have dealt with so many women and many of them on the HB9 scale. I would go as far to say that they all deep down are manipulative, full of drama and deceptive no matter how nice they come across at first.

Is it because I'm not attractive? nope. I get told I'm gorgeous/hot all the time. I'm 6', Muscular ripped, very attractive face. Is it my sex game that isnt up to par? Nope. I destroy women in the bedroom and not to be too graphic but ill be straight up and say I'm packin a 8" (no im not black) lets just say ive been blessed. is it because of social status? nope. I have a big social circle that ranges from ex cons to lawyers to millionaires. When i go out, A lot of bouncers, bartenders, managers treat me very well and always shake my hand, free drinks etc. Maybe its because my Jobs suck? Nope, Ive worked in the highest class financial institutions and became an entrepreneur building a solid 5 figure monthly income. Do i come from a bad family? Nope. Come from a solid happy family. Hmm... Maybe its because im not DJ enough and not a great guy to his girl?... Well my first GF i did everything for her, i gave up and sold irreplaceable things to do things for her and be with her? What did i get in return... she cheated on me with 2 other guys and became very manipulative until i couldnt take anymore of the emotional abuse and left her. My next GF I made her fall in love with me, took her to the Hawaiian islands, I was a bit more cold with her from fear of getting hurt again. She treated me great for the first 3 years... after i became more relaxed and was thinking of asking her to marry me.. She wanted to separate and lied about A LOT of things until i found out she hooked up with 7 guys right after she left and then no more than 3 months later engaged to another man. I remember i was in front of her apartment building trying to talk to her.. i tried kissing her and she backed away saying it wouldnt be right for me to kiss her because a bunch of guys have came on her face. Thats my reward.

i went through the most devastating depression and heartbreak when i found all that out. i was so messed up i was in the hospital. When i called her from the hospital room she said she was too busy to come stay with me when in reality she was with the other guy. thats my F*cking reward.
I dated alot of HB after i got my emotional state back together... They all were deceptive in some way and i could tell they were liars after a while and try to manipulate situations where im damned if i do and damned if i dont. Its not just me though.... My best friend and many other guys i know have been put through hell by their ex GF's or Wives. Cheating and Divorce have left many guys i know F*cked up in the head. I have female friends that tell me their deep secrets and tell me how they manipulate a guy or are cheating on their BF/husband while being VERY secretive about it. I'm finally at the breaking point of completely giving up.

Am i saying this to be negative about women?... not trying to because i do love women to hold on to their soft skin and enjoy their feminine traits and bang their brains out, the root of the problem is today's society encourages women to be this way. This Sex and they City and shows like Kardashians..etc it teaches sh*t like this to behave like a complete B!tch no matter WHAT you have done for them. The media and Hollywood know exactly how to reach women's mind because they can be manipulated easier based on their emotions. Why do you think they get influenced by their GF's to have a "Ladies night out" and eventually "something" happens. They rationalize the craziest sh!t, Have you ever argued with a female and when you have made a solid point to prove you are correct they may lash back at you with a "Whatever!" or "I dont care" or "Your an azzhole" etc.. because even if they know they are wrong about something, they wont admit to it. Ever catch a woman in a lie and they continue to protect that lie until the very end when they have no way to deny it? They do NOT take responsibility for their wrongs. it makes you wonder WTF is going on in their heads. It just keeps getting worse with time.

 

[HedoRick]

Like anything skill set, it is worth it when you know what your doing. If you don't want to learn the proper way to go about this, then it's gonna be prostitutes the rest of your life. Sorry.

 

[HoneyHitter]

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I remember i was in front of her apartment building trying to talk to her.. i tried kissing her and she backed away saying it wouldnt be right for me to kiss her because a bunch of guys have came on her face. Thats my reward.

Unbelievable, that's the most humiliating **** I ever heard coming from a chick! Devastating.

 

[JoeMarron]

Recent deduction from my experiences speaks to my senses that I need to DATE DOWN. There's gold nuggets in mildly attractive women with a more sensible soul deep inside. I am getting tired of dating highly attractive women as they are boring, self-centered, gold-digging, and lack empathy because they never had to learn to care about anyone else since they get it all due to their looks.

Thread winner. Dudes chase after the most desired women for a monogamous relationship and then wonder why it blows up in their face. These type of women simply aren't fit for a relationship. Society has warped their minds into something only worthy of a pump and dump. Find a woman who isn't a bombshell but still attractive and sane; meaning one that hasn't had a thousand sex partners, tons of male friends, a fvcked up family, fvcked up values, and low self esteem. The vast majority of hot women and pretty much women in general should be viewed as nothing but toys.

 

[pyros]

When I read PlayHer Man's posts... I honestly felt it was good advice but too negative... but unfortunately... Im beginning to believe all his posts to be true 100% lol., You give women a finger, they want your hand, you give them your hand they want your arm, you give them your arm and so on.. they are never happy 100%. I have dealt with so many women and many of them on the HB9 scale. I would go as far to say that they all deep down are manipulative, full of drama and deceptive no matter how nice they come across at first.

Is it because I'm not attractive? nope. I get told I'm gorgeous/hot all the time. I'm 6', Muscular ripped, very attractive face. Is it my sex game that isnt up to par? Nope. I destroy women in the bedroom and not to be too graphic but ill be straight up and say I'm packin a 8" (no im not black) lets just say ive been blessed. is it because of social status? nope. I have a big social circle that ranges from ex cons to lawyers to millionaires. When i go out, A lot of bouncers, bartenders, managers treat me very well and always shake my hand, free drinks etc. Maybe its because my Jobs suck? Nope, Ive worked in the highest class financial institutions and became an entrepreneur building a solid 5 figure monthly income. Do i come from a bad family? Nope. Come from a solid happy family. Hmm... Maybe its because im not DJ enough and not a great guy to his girl?... Well my first GF i did everything for her, i gave up and sold irreplaceable things to do things for her and be with her? What did i get in return... she cheated on me with 2 other guys and became very manipulative until i couldnt take anymore of the emotional abuse and left her. My next GF I made her fall in love with me, took her to the Hawaiian islands, I was a bit more cold with her from fear of getting hurt again. She treated me great for the first 3 years... after i became more relaxed and was thinking of asking her to marry me.. She wanted to separate and lied about A LOT of things until i found out she hooked up with 7 guys right after she left and then no more than 3 months later engaged to another man. I remember i was in front of her apartment building trying to talk to her.. i tried kissing her and she backed away saying it wouldnt be right for me to kiss her because a bunch of guys have came on her face. Thats my reward.

i went through the most devastating depression and heartbreak when i found all that out. i was so messed up i was in the hospital. When i called her from the hospital room she said she was too busy to come stay with me when in reality she was with the other guy. thats my F*cking reward.
I dated alot of HB after i got my emotional state back together... They all were deceptive in some way and i could tell they were liars after a while and try to manipulate situations where im damned if i do and damned if i dont. Its not just me though.... My best friend and many other guys i know have been put through hell by their ex GF's or Wives. Cheating and Divorce have left many guys i know F*cked up in the head. I have female friends that tell me their deep secrets and tell me how they manipulate a guy or are cheating on their BF/husband while being VERY secretive about it. I'm finally at the breaking point of completely giving up.

Am i saying this to be negative about women?... not trying to because i do love women to hold on to their soft skin and enjoy their feminine traits and bang their brains out, the root of the problem is today's society encourages women to be this way. This Sex and they City and shows like Kardashians..etc it teaches sh*t like this to behave like a complete B!tch no matter WHAT you have done for them. The media and Hollywood know exactly how to reach women's mind because they can be manipulated easier based on their emotions. Why do you think they get influenced by their GF's to have a "Ladies night out" and eventually "something" happens. They rationalize the craziest sh!t, Have you ever argued with a female and when you have made a solid point to prove you are correct they may lash back at you with a "Whatever!" or "I dont care" or "Your an azzhole" etc.. because even if they know they are wrong about something, they wont admit to it. Ever catch a woman in a lie and they continue to protect that lie until the very end when they have no way to deny it? They do NOT take responsibility for their wrongs. it makes you wonder WTF is going on in their heads. It just keeps getting worse with time.

I think exactly the same to what is in bold above.
Even average/ugly girls are so entitled nowadays that they can do whatever they please like a brat, manipulating, lying, and ridding the **** carrousel as long as they want...and they consider themselves princesses worth a million dollars, while in reality they are spoiled, they're too selfish, manipulative and they've been ****ed by 50 men before you.
Its just insane. Oh, and add emotional baggage to the ****tail...

Several decades ago women were way more normal and good in general...now the percentage of sluts/crazy *****s may be around 70%.

 

[In2theGame]

Unbelievable, that's the most humiliating **** I ever heard coming from a chick! Devastating.

Trust me, that was just the start of it. I later got drunk calls from her telling me that she was upset because 2 guys double teamed her after the bar and didnt make her cvm and gave her a red eye cuz cvm got in her eye. When i spoke to her sober, she panicked when i told her what she told me.. then she started crying and much more. I was still in love with her and to hear these things made me want to almost throw up from feeling so sad. i never thought i could feel that sad and depressed. After all that then i saw her picture on facebook getting engaged 3 months later. Lets just say that i have massive scar in my heart from that experience. We were together for 5 years and looking to get married.

 

[VladPatton]

In2theGame, who the fück were you dating, bro??? Holy fückin flaming shıtballs, man!

SeymourCake, shıt's all fücked up out there. Sometimes you just gotta take a breather and get out of the coliseum for a while. Society is making these bıtches female Terminators at this point. They can't be reasoned with, they can't be bargained with, and will not stop, until you are wrong on every level!

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu118/gustihana/Terminator.gif

 

[marmel75]

I'm at the point of my life where I don't care anymore.

Too much mind games.
Too much c0ckblocking
Too much miscommunication
Too much emotions
Too much flaking

It's a cold world. It's every man for himself.

Nah, I spend maybe 5 bucks on a women tops before I bang them...then after that, I don't have to spend much of anything because I simply invite myself to their house to "watch a movie" or she asks if I want to come over...sometimes I will bring a bottle of wine, but usually not...

Makes life so much easier...

 

[skinnyguy]

I feel your pain, man.

Women now days are so fvcked up. They are attention wh0ring on Facebook and really don't care about men. That's why at times, you're better off going on a date with your right hand.

It's a fantasy to think that you can get away with not spending money and getting a woman in your bed. That's only reserved for very good looking guys. You have to spend money to get a girl out at some point.

 

[In2theGame]

In2theGame, who the fück were you dating, bro??? Holy fückin flaming shıtballs, man!

Apparently a nutcase. She was really great for a while so thats when i started thinking "this is it, I want to marry her" I guess i was dead wrong on that one. I cant imagine how much worse it would have been if i had married her.

 

[marmel75]

Apparently a nutcase. She was really great for a while so thats when i started thinking "this is it, I want to marry her" I guess i was dead wrong on that one. I cant imagine how much worse it would have been if i had married her.

You need to read this thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212089