is cold approach dead now?

[Slowhandluke]

I'll expose the elephant in the room. On average the ratio of men to women being born in any given year is 50/50. Most of these young women are going after the top 10 % of men. So lets make the math easy. Lets say there's 20 people in the world at any given time - 10 men and 10 women. Lets say 80% of young average women are going for the top 10% of guys. That mean 8 out of those ten women are going after 1 guy (situationships with this chad, serial dating, the one guy is dating multiple women at a time, etc..) That leaves 2 women who are dating at their level or willing to date outside of the top 10% of guys.


SoooOOOoooOOOoooo for every 9 guys, they are "chasing"/ can only pair up with 2 women. So lets assume these two women find a guy. That means there is 7 guys with NO ONE to date (until the women is old and no longer attractive to even these 7 guys).

Is approaching dead? Depends, if I go to a lake to fish, and there's no fish. Is fishing "dead"? To a lot of people, yeah, it's dead. For me, as I get older, I just like to talk to people (maybe I'm being the stereotypical older guy -- who knows???). I try to talk to everyone and it's not about trying to sleep with girls. So in that sense, it's not dead to me. Instead of being that creepy old guy, I'm more of that old guy that talks to everyone -- seems to work for me. SooOOooo if you are cold approaching in order to find a girlfriend -- stick a fork in it, your odds are really low - that time has pass. If you cold approach just to have fun and be sociable, then it's fine.

p.s. The above does not apply to the top 10% of guys; cold approaching, diick picts, rudeness, etc... etc.. its A-OK. Oh, to end on a positive note, don't worry, average women will learn their lesson. I give it another 5 to 10 years. Enough time for another generation of women to turn into cat ladies. What average women are doing is not sustainable.

 

[I_have_BDE]

Women (almost all women ) are using some sort of online technology for finding men , it could be POF or could be Facebook or insta , etc.
Saying all women who use online dating websites are bad, is just an excuse to some people who are failing.

Then what explains on pof, tinder etc mostly fat women? I dont even message or swipe hardly anymore because most are fat and stuff. Its better failing than going for easy fat women.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Then what explains on pof, tinder etc mostly fat women? I dont even message or swipe hardly anymore because most are fat and stuff. Its better failing than going for easy fat women.

Occam's Razor --- because most women are fat...... ?????

 

[I_have_BDE]

Occam's Razor --- because most women are fat...... ?????

That's what's being pushed today. Fat is beautiful in women.

 

[SW15]

Is approaching dead? Depends....if you are cold approaching in order to find a girlfriend -- stick a fork in it, your odds are really low - that time has pass.

Approaching strangers in order to find some sort of a romantic relationship is often a very unrewarding exercise. That last sentence is often true even when it is effective and 1 or more extended relationship develop over the course of a lifetime.

Approaching strangers has some amount of similarity with cold calling for sales in business. Cold calling has been largely discredited as ineffective since the 1990s. Even before the 1990s, cold calling wasn't well regarded.

 

[soulforge]

Done 4 cold approaches today.

4 young hot chicks. Was no big deal at all.

I enjoy cold approach.

How else are you going to meet/pull young hot chicks?

 

[SW15]

How else are you going to meet/pull young hot chicks?

With the Millennials and Gen Z, far more people are opting for tech-based interactions, such as swipe apps and DMs on Instagram.

 

[soulforge]

With the Millennials and Gen Z, far more people are opting for tech-based interactions, such as swipe apps and DMs on Instagram.

You ain't going to find many hot chicks between the age 20-28 on dating apps.

 

[SW15]

You ain't going to find many hot chicks between the age 20-28 on dating apps.

1. As a 40 year old, I have aged out of that bracket for the most part. I'm not on swipe apps and haven't been for a while.
2. Even when I was on swipe apps, I found the top of female attractiveness of swipe apps to be near the 7.5-7.9 range. It was rare to see 8+ women on the swipe apps. There are more 8+ women that can receive DMs on Instagram if one must use a tech method. The real world is better for the 8+ audience.

 

[Learning Curve]

I used to do cold approach in college and tbh thats where i got laid the most and even though i got a lot of rejections i also got a lot of enthusiastic yes and did great. However due to life i stopped and relied solely on tinder and hinge. Ive had success with them but i feel like its not in my control as with cold approach i can express my personality and confidence more. But is it dead? I havent done it in 7 years lmao and my skills are probably rusty. I have a lot of gorgeous women in my gym who stare at me and i def want to pick them up but i havent done it in so long. Anyone immersed in dating have any idea if girls are just using dating apps or are they still open to being approached

Cold approach will and always be the most effective way to present your personality in person to women and also understand if you click or not with a woman in the fist minute you talk to her.

Dating apps, or social media is just a faceless way of approaching that yes can lead to a date, and bang but at the end of the day my personal success has been mostly in cold-approaching. I can easily scan women in seconds and understand body language, facial gestures and get straight to the point.

You have not done it in 7 years so start going out and start to do it. Skills return, improve and eventually you will get to a point where is like a default for you.

 

[I_have_BDE]

You ain't going to find many hot chicks between the age 20-28 on dating apps.

True. More like under 35. The women under 35 on OLD generally are fat, or full of tats and ugly. The women closer to 40 and older are generally hotter on OLD than the young ones, but not many of them though.

There is no reason why women under 35 if they're hot they have to use OLD. Most have friends, social groups, friends from college, work etc.

Once in awhile you'll see a cute introvert who uses OLD and takes it seriously.

Then guy complain no young hot women on OLD but don't apply much logic why.

Covid lockdowns are over so people are out more now.

 

[I_have_BDE]

1. As a 40 year old, I have aged out of that bracket for the most part. I'm not on swipe apps and haven't been for a while.
2. Even when I was on swipe apps, I found the top of female attractiveness of swipe apps to be near the 7.5-7.9 range. It was rare to see 8+ women on the swipe apps. There are more 8+ women that can receive DMs on Instagram if one must use a tech method. The real world is better for the 8+ audience.

There are a FEW you will see on OLD HB8 plus that are not fake profiles but rare, the last 3 years really rare. You'd see them on Match before covid went on a date with HB9 from there too. Guys don't realize most hot women meet their guys via social circles, work, school, etc. Not sitting on the sh*tter swiping on Tinder. You pretty much some it up. under 8 range on OLD.

 

[soulforge]

True. More like under 35. The women under 35 on OLD generally are fat, or full of tats and ugly. The women closer to 40 and older are generally hotter on OLD than the young ones, but not many of them though.

There is no reason why women under 35 if they're hot they have to use OLD. Most have friends, social groups, friends from college, work etc.

Once in awhile you'll see a cute introvert who uses OLD and takes it seriously.

Then guy complain no young hot women on OLD but don't apply much logic why.

Covid lockdowns are over so people are out more now.

This is currently my dating strategy.

If I want to smash some sexy single mom, milf or older chick, I use dating apps. These dating app girls are for recreational use only.

If I want a young chick between age 20-28 for an LTR, I cold approach ruthlessly!

 

[DonJuanjr]

During an inperson conversation you have 100% of her attention there is literally no other way on earth for a man to get this level of attention in the modern era

I think this is a very good point.

 

[RazorRambo24]

Cold approach is not a trend that just dies out. It's just socializing.

 

[Apone]

Cold approach is becoming less common, but also becoming more valued by women (given the right circumstances). Women are also tired of OLD, and they want a masculine guy to approach them without using an app. If you can get comfortable with cold approach, either in daytime or nightgame, it opens up a world of possibilities.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Cold approach is becoming less common, but also becoming more valued by women (given the right circumstances). Women are also tired of OLD, and they want a masculine guy top 10% guy to approach them without using an app. If you can get comfortable with cold approach, either in daytime or nightgame, it opens up a world of possibilities.

Slightly fixed it for ya...

 

[I_have_BDE]

Slightly fixed it for ya...

They want one of those fairytale Hallmark Channel movie characters (wealthy chad) to approach her. Btw, I had a thread on that. Those damn Hallmark movies influence women thinking that's what they're entitled to. Notice it's always a Chad, not super chad, but decent looking chad in those movies who comes from rich family or is a doctor, lawyer, successful business owner in their mid 30s or so and it's a cute HB 7.5. Basically top 15 percent income earner and chad, mid range chad. So now every single woman, especially HB7 plus thinks the typical man is this. Then she's picky wanting top 10 percent income earner and model tier guy when in reality most of us are not this. It's like saying most 50 year old women look like Melania Trump.

Then disappointed this doesn't happen. A guy earning 200k a year, and in a professional field isn't doing cold approaching often. They meet people with other means.

The very few women remaining on OLD that are HB7 have that delusion and get stuck on there. Being unrealistic with their expectations with delusion and grander. Of course, not all women are shallow like this.

 

[Bingo-Player]

A lot of coping in these comments

All I have done since April is cold approach because quite frankly OLD is a black hole for time wasting ,

Cold approach has been a grind and a steep learning curve but the work is now starting to pay off

Back in February I was so nervous cold approaching girls in the gym I could barely string a sentence together

Last week I approached a HB 8 with one of them deadly bootys controlled the frame well got her laughing got her vibing

Its very very early as we are in the "talking stage" but she's responding pretty well to everything im throwing at her and she's giving me some tests which would indicate she's interested in seeing if I can handle her

next week I will push for a date with her , even if it doesn't come off the amount of confidence and experience you gain from these types of Inperson interactions is worth its weight in gold

With cold approach YOU get to select the girls you want and they HAVE to respond purely by the law of averages eventually you will find some very attractive ladies that are flattered you've approached and are down for dating and having sex with you

The best bit is because so many guys are petrified of talking to women in person , if you do it correctly you go straight to the top of her list

Guess who wins out of 100 old profiles V.S 1 smooth cold approach ?


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On OLD your just swiping and sending empty messages where 99% of them just get left on read , no woman wants to meet her man on a dating app its embarrassing

Ive said it before but OLD is only use for guys who want to fish the bottom of the barrel , low quality options that will have stupidly high expectations , other mens children or other psychological baggage

These types of women LOVE old because they know its the only place they will be entertained as valuable by men

 

[SW15]

Cold approach is becoming less common, but also becoming more valued by women (given the right circumstances). Women are also tired of OLD, and they want a masculine guy to approach them without using an app. If you can get comfortable with cold approach, either in daytime or nightgame, it opens up a world of possibilities.

They want one of those fairytale Hallmark Channel movie characters (wealthy chad) to approach her. Btw, I had a thread on that. Those damn Hallmark movies influence women thinking that's what they're entitled to. Notice it's always a Chad, not super chad, but decent looking chad in those movies who comes from rich family or is a doctor, lawyer, successful business owner in their mid 30s or so and it's a cute HB 7.5. Basically top 15 percent income earner and chad, mid range chad. So now every single woman, especially HB7 plus thinks the typical man is this.

This is somewhat accurate. Women do prefer a top tier man approaching them. @I_have_BDE thinks you need looks + money. It's not true. If you're a good looking but broke man, you can still do well approaching. I've observed instances of broke, good looking manual laborer/blue collar men doing well with women.