backbreaker
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I am thinking about joining at the local lodge... something about what they stand for just makes sense to me. Anyway, if anyone has any experiences/etc would be greatly appricated
is anyone here a freemason?
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Le Parisien
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I think the true freemasonry can NOT be "joined" so to speak. If you are important and influential, money/power/etc..., ultimately you are useful, they will come to you. You can't be like "hey look, I'm pretty rich/powerful/successful, please let me in".backbreaker said:
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
neither of you are close... first of all, a mason can't ask you to become a member. They can talk about it all day long, about how great it is, but they can't ask you if you want to become one. You have to want to become one.
Also, there is nothing to clam up about. Masonary is not a colt, it's a group of people that share the same basic beilefs about life and socieity (non religious beliefs)
The easiest way to become a member is to... write and request an application. Then a committiee will do a background check on you, etc and then they will have a vote to see if you are worthy of membership, just like any other frat
Also, there is nothing to clam up about. Masonary is not a colt, it's a group of people that share the same basic beilefs about life and socieity (non religious beliefs)
The easiest way to become a member is to... write and request an application. Then a committiee will do a background check on you, etc and then they will have a vote to see if you are worthy of membership, just like any other frat
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Not a Cult??? Only members know the answer to that.
Of course masonary isn't a COLT, because a COLT is a brand of beer, a gun of the 1911 variety, and also a style of watch made by breitling:wave:
Not a Cult??? Only members know the answer to that.
It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.
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backbreaker
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lol
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Not sure if masonry is a cult, but it spawned a couple of them:
http://newsletters.cephasministry.com/jwmasons1.99.html
http://newsletters.cephasministry.com/jwmasons1.99.html
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Waiting for the "Illuminati" nut jobs to show up...
Yotsuya-san
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Your average mason is just an average joe middle to upper middle class. They never get the inside on that Illuminati stuff. That is only for the super rich, White (yes there are nonwhite Masons, Prince Hall comes to mind), old bloodlines. To just about everyone else, the Freemasons is just a club no different from the Elk Lodge.Derek Flint said:
spider_007
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...and Hells AngelsYotsuya-san said:
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
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Why join if they won't let me help take over the worldYotsuya-san said:
that's like dating the town hor and never... :moon: , like ....... and not.......g g g unit
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What do they beleive then??backbreaker said:
penkitten
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my coworker is a mason. he rarely mentions it and doesnt go to meetings. i think when he became one he had to pay some dues and go to a few meetings. he learned a handshake and got a sticker for his truck.
being a mason can come in handy. when we had a horrible sewer problem on the property a few years ago, they sent out the city water company to repair the problem but it was going to cost tons. my co worker noticed a mason sticker on the city water guys truck so when he approached him to introduce himself he automaticly did the handshake. we didnt get billed for over a year and then it was a really reduced price. it really saved us tons of money.
being a mason can come in handy. when we had a horrible sewer problem on the property a few years ago, they sent out the city water company to repair the problem but it was going to cost tons. my co worker noticed a mason sticker on the city water guys truck so when he approached him to introduce himself he automaticly did the handshake. we didnt get billed for over a year and then it was a really reduced price. it really saved us tons of money.
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Yeah, I'm not a real mason but I know the secret handshake. It's the one where you make your hand in a fist and go on top of the other guys hand who is also in a fist.
Blue Phoenix
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Are you talking about this?Permission said:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27985038/Hand-shake.avi.html
Have you guys watched the movie "The Illuminati"? It talks about secret societies such as Skull and Bones, Free Mansons, The order of the Golden Dawn, and so forth. Btw, this has nothing to do with Tyler´s secret society!!
Here´s a trailer from the movie:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27984329/Illuminati.avi.html
Let me add that this movie is a "bombshell". :box:
Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.
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We should come up with a so suave DJ handshake...
Joe The Homophobe
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If you join freemasonry you are joining a cult that has in its members those involved in the military industrial complex new world order which intends to start world war 3 and kill most of the world's population.
99% of masons are just average people, good people that don't know what they're doing, they think they are joining a frat. If they only stopped to research its history and its connection to just about everything evil in the world they would think otherwise.
99% of masons are just average people, good people that don't know what they're doing, they think they are joining a frat. If they only stopped to research its history and its connection to just about everything evil in the world they would think otherwise.
Joe The Homophobe
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-----------FREEMAONSRY FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH (Albert Pike, one of the most famous freemasons who wrote the Bible of freemasonry which is given free to members in lodges)
6) Since Masonic Lodges are religious temples, what are they searching for since they do not worship Jesus Christ?
"Freemasonry is a search for Light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 741, Pike was a 33rd Degree Mason, Head of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, Southern Jurisdiction]
7) But isn't the Kabalah a religion?
"All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah and return to it; everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of the Illuminati ... all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their symbols." [Pike, Morals and Dogma ] We wish to warn all our Jewish friends who are caught up in the revival of Kabalah study, they are believing in the very Satanic counterfeit to the Torah and other Old Testament books of the Bible that the Pharisees and Sadducees of Jesus' day were practicing. Did you know that the major reason the Pharisees and Sadducees plotted to murder Jesus, in spite of His obvious supernatural power, was because they were practicing the witchcraft of the Kabalah? You can read the full details in two of the Cutting Edge's former Radio Programs -- CE1077, "Secret Societies Killed Jesus Christ" and CE1078, "Secret Societies Originated Unpardonable Sin, and Ramifications". Once you read these two articles, you will understand why Jesus was so unrelenting in His pronouncements of damnation against the Pharisees, which is totally out of character of His love and compassion for ordinary sinners, even grievous sinners. Jesus knew the Pharisees and Sadducees were practicing the witchcraft that later was to become known as the Kabalah.
13) Now wait a minute! Are you saying that the 'light', for which Masonry is looking, is found with Lucifer?
"LUCIFER, the Light-Bearer .. Is it he who bears the Light? Doubt it not!" [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 321.; Emphasis in the original]
14) Hold it! Isn't Lucifer, or Satan, the black god? The evil one?
"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is Yahweh (GOD) reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but a negation of God. For Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force ..." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 102] Pike's statement in the letter, quoted in paragraph 12, above, defines pure Satanism. They believe God and Lucifer are equal Gods, were competitors in the Garden of Eden, with Adonay God of the Holy Bible getting "temporary" victory. But, occultists believe that, at the Battle of Armageddon, God Lucifer will overthrow God Adonay and claim his rightful throne in Heaven. All Luciferians, including the Illuminati, believe this with their whole heart. God Adonay is the cruel God, as demonstrated by all the times He ordered the Israelites in the Old Testament to slaughter entire populations of people for the only sin of worshipping Lucifer,His adversary; Lucifer, on the other hand, has no such slaughter on His record, and is considered to be the Good God.
Furthermore, calling Lucifer or Satan, a Force instead of a Person, Pike fulfills Biblical prophecy for Antichrist. In Daniel 11:38, God gives this prophecy. "But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces:" Neither Albert Pike, nor any other Luciferian, will ever know they just fulfilled Bible prophecy for the forces of Antichrist. However, as we point out in free01, "Teachings About Jesus Christ", their doctrine of Jesus also fulfills the Biblical definition of Antichrist exactly.
15) Is Satan, then, perceived to be God, the source of Light?
"To conceive of God ... the Kabala imagined Him to be a 'most occult light'." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 740]
16) Since the Masonic religion is a "front" for the religion of the Illuminati, is the Masonic "light" the "light" of the Illuminati ?
"The result is light or illumination. Such are the Illuminati." [J.D. Buck, 32nd Degree Mason, Mystic Masonry , Introduction, p. xl.] Once again, we see Freemasonry convicted of being Luciferian by the words of their own authors. It is really too bad that over 95% of all Freemasons do not take the time to read the very books we, and other Christian authors, have read. Such doubting Masons have not done one iota as much research as we, and yet, they choose to believe their lying Superiors.
17) Isn't the Masonic candidate told the full truth of Freemasonry's religion and god when they enter the Blue Lodge, where they receive their first three degrees?
"The Blue Degrees (the Blue Lodge degrees) are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally mislead by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understand them ." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 819; Emphasis added]
All Freemasons need to read and re-read this very illuminating paragraph. Pike has just boldly told his 30th Degree Adepts that they are to be free to intentionally mislead lower ranking Masons. Such poor slobs are to imagine that they understand the symbols of Freemasonry! Such bold-face lying comes from the Evil One, Satan, not the Holy God of the Bible!
6) Since Masonic Lodges are religious temples, what are they searching for since they do not worship Jesus Christ?
"Freemasonry is a search for Light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 741, Pike was a 33rd Degree Mason, Head of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, Southern Jurisdiction]
7) But isn't the Kabalah a religion?
"All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah and return to it; everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of the Illuminati ... all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their symbols." [Pike, Morals and Dogma ] We wish to warn all our Jewish friends who are caught up in the revival of Kabalah study, they are believing in the very Satanic counterfeit to the Torah and other Old Testament books of the Bible that the Pharisees and Sadducees of Jesus' day were practicing. Did you know that the major reason the Pharisees and Sadducees plotted to murder Jesus, in spite of His obvious supernatural power, was because they were practicing the witchcraft of the Kabalah? You can read the full details in two of the Cutting Edge's former Radio Programs -- CE1077, "Secret Societies Killed Jesus Christ" and CE1078, "Secret Societies Originated Unpardonable Sin, and Ramifications". Once you read these two articles, you will understand why Jesus was so unrelenting in His pronouncements of damnation against the Pharisees, which is totally out of character of His love and compassion for ordinary sinners, even grievous sinners. Jesus knew the Pharisees and Sadducees were practicing the witchcraft that later was to become known as the Kabalah.
13) Now wait a minute! Are you saying that the 'light', for which Masonry is looking, is found with Lucifer?
"LUCIFER, the Light-Bearer .. Is it he who bears the Light? Doubt it not!" [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 321.; Emphasis in the original]
14) Hold it! Isn't Lucifer, or Satan, the black god? The evil one?
"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is Yahweh (GOD) reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but a negation of God. For Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force ..." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 102] Pike's statement in the letter, quoted in paragraph 12, above, defines pure Satanism. They believe God and Lucifer are equal Gods, were competitors in the Garden of Eden, with Adonay God of the Holy Bible getting "temporary" victory. But, occultists believe that, at the Battle of Armageddon, God Lucifer will overthrow God Adonay and claim his rightful throne in Heaven. All Luciferians, including the Illuminati, believe this with their whole heart. God Adonay is the cruel God, as demonstrated by all the times He ordered the Israelites in the Old Testament to slaughter entire populations of people for the only sin of worshipping Lucifer,His adversary; Lucifer, on the other hand, has no such slaughter on His record, and is considered to be the Good God.
Furthermore, calling Lucifer or Satan, a Force instead of a Person, Pike fulfills Biblical prophecy for Antichrist. In Daniel 11:38, God gives this prophecy. "But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces:" Neither Albert Pike, nor any other Luciferian, will ever know they just fulfilled Bible prophecy for the forces of Antichrist. However, as we point out in free01, "Teachings About Jesus Christ", their doctrine of Jesus also fulfills the Biblical definition of Antichrist exactly.
15) Is Satan, then, perceived to be God, the source of Light?
"To conceive of God ... the Kabala imagined Him to be a 'most occult light'." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 740]
16) Since the Masonic religion is a "front" for the religion of the Illuminati, is the Masonic "light" the "light" of the Illuminati ?
"The result is light or illumination. Such are the Illuminati." [J.D. Buck, 32nd Degree Mason, Mystic Masonry , Introduction, p. xl.] Once again, we see Freemasonry convicted of being Luciferian by the words of their own authors. It is really too bad that over 95% of all Freemasons do not take the time to read the very books we, and other Christian authors, have read. Such doubting Masons have not done one iota as much research as we, and yet, they choose to believe their lying Superiors.
17) Isn't the Masonic candidate told the full truth of Freemasonry's religion and god when they enter the Blue Lodge, where they receive their first three degrees?
"The Blue Degrees (the Blue Lodge degrees) are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally mislead by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understand them ." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 819; Emphasis added]
All Freemasons need to read and re-read this very illuminating paragraph. Pike has just boldly told his 30th Degree Adepts that they are to be free to intentionally mislead lower ranking Masons. Such poor slobs are to imagine that they understand the symbols of Freemasonry! Such bold-face lying comes from the Evil One, Satan, not the Holy God of the Bible!
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
Just FYI, Lucifer is the Roman Lightbringer god. The guy translating the bible from hebrew to latin was in a rush, and wrongly translated a lot of stuff, Lucifer being one of them.
Google it and you'll see.
Google it and you'll see.
Brian20o2
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Are you sure he was in a rush or could it have been that he did that on purpose in order to undermine the roman gods. That makes far more sense to me because back then the religions were kind of in a competition to get the most followers and what better way to bring people to your religion than saying the others God of Light is the most evil being out there?Centaurion said:
