Inter racial relationships

[whistler]

What amazes me is that I have a masters degree dealing with genetics and apparently douchebags with google can find the "information" they want to verify there idiotic claims without problems.

In the future please dont make claims that you cant back up zergkiller. To anyone who knows any better you sound unbelievably moronic, to the point where I cant justify writing any response that occupies more than 2 minutes of my time.

Seriously!

Zergkiller is pasting some garbage from a white supremacist website.

It's complete BS propaganda.

Odd that he's indirectly arguing for racial purity and white superiority... rather ironic.

 

[Nobody]

The most famous Cuban (other than Castro) is Celia Cruz. She is black.

And don't be surprised if some of the "white" females are already involved with black or other dark skinned men (especially Latinos).

And there are a LOT of black people in Colombia...especially Cartagena.

the most famous Cuban among Cubans is Celia Cruz... Dude, she's just like Usher. Your mother and your daughter might like his music, but majority of mothers would ****ing flip if they saw him in their living room.

Castro is the most famous.... and he's white! Desi Arnaz is famous, and he's white! Bob Vila, Andy Garcia, Cameron Diaz, David Gallagher (7th Heaven blonde). They're all white.

 

[Latinoman]

the most famous Cuban among Cubans is Celia Cruz... Dude, she's just like Usher. Your mother and your daughter might like his music, but majority of mothers would ****ing flip if they saw him in their living room.

Castro is the most famous.... and he's white! Desi Arnaz is famous, and he's white! Bob Vila, Andy Garcia, Cameron Diaz, David Gallagher (7th Heaven blonde). They're all white.

Dude...I probably know more about Cuban culture than you do. My best friend was Cuban (coming out of Cuba with his family). Most of my Cuban friends came straight up from Cuba.

Most of your opinions are based on second or third generations of Cubans that were born at the U.S. or came to the U.S. at a very young age.

 

[Latinoman]

The most famous Cuban in entertainment today is Gloria Estefan. And she's white.

Sure, many white females (both Latin and otherwise) are already involved with black or dark-skinned men. There's always been some of that going on through the ages. There will always be people who don't care, and those who oppose.

Gloria Estefan more famous than Celia Cruz? You MUST be kidding.

The Smithhsonian Institution had a gallery dedicated SOLELY to Celia Cruz.

 

[Nobody]

Gloria Estefan more famous than Celia Cruz? You MUST be kidding.

The Smithhsonian Institution had a gallery dedicated SOLELY to Celia Cruz.

1) Castro is the most famous.


2) nobody really knows Cruz outside of the Latin community. Ask a redneck who Celia Cruz is. Ask someone from Washington state who Cruz is.




and it's pretty arrogant and judgemental for you to claim you know more about Cuban culture than me. I'd take a 75% Cuban with 3 of 4 grandparents from Cuba and 1 parent from Cuba that lives only 10 minutes from Miami that goes to a 60% Cuban school with 90% latinos over some mulatto from the Caribbean with his token Cuban friend. That's like you me claiming I know more about black culture than you because my best friend is black. ROFL!


Again, there's always exceptions to the rule. But the true Cubans, the ones that left before 1979, the ones that hate Castro, 85% of them will not get near a black person or an Indian. I know Cubans that date black men.... they also are ignorant, gangbanging, wannabe hoodlums. The educated ones never go out with black men. Sorry, hate to disappoint you. Your fantasy world of the DR is nothing like the true Cubans. Now if you want to say that the Cubans in Cuba now are mixed, I'd agree. Something like 50% are mulatto.

 

[whistler]

It's NOT about preaching hatred or prejudice; it's about tradition.

I'm not trying to be offensive...

But, what is the basis for the tradition?

My uncle's family has a long tradition of keeping his family separate from any one of Latin American descent... actually, from most "minorities" in the US.

I doubt he thinks he's a racist. But, he can offer no real reason for doing so, except "tradition." He generalizes within races (whether the races by actual races or not), so I think, though he doesn't attack anyone, he is a racist.

 

[whistler]

I've already explained the basis for my family's tradition of sticking with one's own earlier in this thread. You'll have to go back and read up.

In fact, I did read your earlier posts because they're fascinating and thought-out.

What I don't get... Your family's fear of you having kids that are mixed (giving your kids a hard life) was powerful enough to move you all out of a neighborhood?

 

[SoCalMike]

Look on the positive side: inter-racial dating as an opportunity to filter out all the ignorant aszhole friends / family in your life (maybe in hers too).

... and a 'big thank you, black santa claus' for Jessica Alba. Any redneck hee haw hillbilly mother f'er that says he wouldn't do her is a lying lout.

typical brain dead liberal straw man argument. none of us said jessica alba isn't hot. sure i'd love to f*ck her, but I WOULDN'T. i am a MAN and can control my urges when they go against my principles. apparently you have no such ability.

 

[Ralston]

Dawg, if I knew you I would **** your sister with my black **** just because of that ignorant stuff you said...no sister? I bet youve got a mom and you can believe she wants to know what itz like to have some chocolate in her!

Well, here goes. This is an important question, but the answers I’m gonna give won’t be too popular, since the MTV mentality pretty much prevails.

If you were in my set of friends, there never would be any comments on the sexual desirability of a woman who was not in my race. All of my friends understand why.

If I just met you, and you made some casual comment as to the desirability of a woman in another race, I would immediately put you on a list of suspicious people. If I spent time with you, I would try to educate you so that you didn’t do that any more. The things I told you would change your mind.

If I saw you with someone who was not of your race, I would try to never speak to you for the rest of my life.

The subject of “Race” is quite a bit like the subject of this site. Either you know what to do naturally, or you need to study, but one thing the study of race has over the study of women is that you don’t need to do exercises. You can just read the correct books at home, and develop your racial self esteem. Certainly, the complexity of racial subjects is completely off the page for this forum, but staying in your own race is something everyone should do, and I don’t care what color your skin is.

 

[SoCalMike]

In most of the Caribbean, race does not mean very much, because the majority of people are mixed-race. They are ahead of the U.S. in that sense, but it is only a matter of time before the concept of "race" is confined to history books. We are all going to be brown eventually.

none of us can predict the future, yet you libs are always arrogantly pronouncing things like this as if you have a crystal ball.

will 1 billion racially concious chinese and 1 billion racially concious indians all be mixed away anytime soon? what about the jews, who have remained a distinct people ALL ACROSS THE GLOBE for almost 2000 years?

even if races mix, that only has the end result of creating new races. i doubt there will ever be the dull one-world mush that you and your ilk so eagerly yearn for. even if it were a certainty, that does not mean that's it's immoral to refuse to take part in it.

 

[SoCalMike]

What I find incredibly cute is the assertion that certain white people are against interracial relationships because of the confusion "the children will go through." Of course, no such confusion need exist if you aren't expecting it and rubbing it in the face of any and all who would date another race. Thus, a clearly prejudiced reaction is disguised as a humane one.

what i find "cute" is your pompous attitude and your claim that you can read my mind faggot boy.

you're damn right i would feel sorry for bringing a mongrel into this world. NEVER question my sincerity on that again you little twerp.

the fact is, there is no need to "rub it in their face" - mixed people know exactly what they are, and it often troubles them. it's a well documented fact that many of them end up in psych wards because of it. do some research you little turd.

 

[SoCalMike]

What amazes me is that I have a masters degree dealing with genetics and apparently douchebags with google can find the "information" they want to verify there idiotic claims without problems.

In the future please dont make claims that you cant back up zergkiller. To anyone who knows any better you sound unbelievably moronic, to the point where I cant justify writing any response that occupies more than 2 minutes of my time.

"i have a masters degree" big f*cking deal. and what is "dealing with genetics" exactly?

so what's your argument queer? step up to the plate and debate his points if you've got something to say.

or you can debate me if you want to get squashed real quick. i'm a white who doesn't mix. got a problem with that?

 

[SoCalMike]

I'm not trying to be offensive...

But, what is the basis for the tradition?

My uncle's family has a long tradition of keeping his family separate from any one of Latin American descent... actually, from most "minorities" in the US.

I doubt he thinks he's a racist. But, he can offer no real reason for doing so, except "tradition." He generalizes within races (whether the races by actual races or not), so I think, though he doesn't attack anyone, he is a racist.

no offense but, what's the basis for wanting to mix?

questioning tradition and values is like questioning religion. we each have our own belief systems, and i respect that. what disgusts me is those who claim their belief system to be superior to another's which is the vibe i'm getting from this discussion.

 

[whistler]

no offense but, what's the basis for wanting to mix?

questioning tradition and values is like questioning religion. we each have our own belief systems, and i respect that. what disgusts me is those who claim their belief system to be superior to another's which is the vibe i'm getting from this discussion.

Know anyone who has a tradition of "mixing"?

I'm guessing a guy's ccck is what drives it in the first place. No tradition needed.


(I think you're right about the superiority thing. No one should be attacked merely for their beliefs.)

 

[SoCalMike]

Know anyone who has a tradition of "mixing"?

I'm guessing a guy's ccck is what drives it in the first place. No tradition needed.


(I think you're right about the superiority thing. No one should be attacked merely for their beliefs.)

LOL - no, don't know of anyone with that tradition.

i agree with you, of course there are plenty of hot women who aren't white, i question the honesty of anyone who denies that (i don't think anyone here is) but we're talking about marriage and children that's a whole different thing.

 

[zergkiller]

The final effects of no more races.

I’ve always thought that Jane Fonda was really beautiful. I haven’t seen her for awhile, but I will always remember “Barbarella” and the way she looked in that film. But if I had the chance to re-design her, I think it would be with a loop at the back of her neck and a string to be pulled when you wanted her to speak. There would be a canned set of about two hundred things she could say and that’s all. She was so bent out of shape about the whales, meanwhile, the entire White race is being bred out of existence. Not to worry, though, someday we will all be only one color and there will be no more races. “After all,” she probably thinks, “the concept of Race is outmoded and only a social construct, so in time this too shall pass.” That is, if she thinks anything at all.

Of course, a couple of months ago, they traced an American Black woman’s genetic code to some obscure tribe in east Africa that is almost extinct there. Her family line had been in the US about two hundred years and she didn’t have a clue to her real lineage. I wonder if this kind of thing would make Jane rethink her ideas? Probably not. Learning disabilities, and difficulty in conceptual reasoning plague her. But she is/was beautiful.

Somewhere, people who advocate race-mixing think that races will disappear someday. The desirability of this notion has supporters in thoughts other than racially related ideas. These other supporters believe that Race is the cause of all wars and physical strife in the world. And, most wars are between different gene sets, even families get into wars. Tribes get into wars…and nations??? Wow! When people get into fights, they have, shall we say “ideological conflicts”, and so, the theory goes, if we all were of the same race, most of the reasons for physical violence would be eradicated.

So what would the conditions be if we were all the same?

The process goes like this. Characteristics have a tendency to seek the average of themselves. Tall people have tall children, short people have short children, and a tall person and a short person will tend to have children who’s height will be in the middle somewhere. Race mixing would include this mechanism at a much more fundamental level. Understand also that this process is pretty slow, since it takes generations to achieve the end result. If you only look at your children, for example, you would have a tough time predicting what your great great great grandchildren would look like. At least with correct instruction, they would be in your same race.

Many people who believe that race-mixing is a good idea also think that inbreeding causes morons. This is promoted by snickers and laughter behind the hand on the popular TV shows etc. This idea is completely wrong. The only way inbreeding causes morons is if the genetic codes of the parents were predisposed to produce moronic children. If the two people were rocket scientists, their children would also be very intelligent. So inbreeding of itself does not cause retarded children at all.

The fabulous idea of a one world government, one kind of people, no nations etc. promotes the “one race” idea all the time. But the idea of no more races revolves around two poles: inbreeding vs. outbreeding. With inbreeding, gene sets find commonality and relate in that way. Their characteristics are reinforced at each instance. They continue to seek each other, and in fact, races come about this way. There are different races of horses, for example. With outbreeding, the genetic gene sets disperse into the general milieu, and their specificity is completely lost. A drop of Coke in a Coke will not change the drink, and a drop of Coke in the sea will not change the sea.

One extremely important characteristic for everyone is intelligence. Like all the others, this characteristic also averages the values of the parents. In the one world concept of one race, there would also be only one level of intelligence. Everyone would have the same IQ and that would be 100, the average. As time went on, and people became more “normal”, the number of idiots would gradually diminish, but the number of geniuses would diminish also. It is the geniuses who solve the world’s problems. With only people whose IQs were 100, there would be no more solutions for the complex problems we see being solved everyday. If you think the Dark Ages were bad, just imagine a world with no creativity, no structure, no art, no music and no cultural lead maintained by anyone anywhere. The characteristics of music, art, conceptual reasoning, objective thinking etc. are all built into the genetic code and they would be lost in the sea of averages FOREVER! No plague could do worse, no nuclear wars, no cataclysmic meteor or earthquake or climate shift could match the effects of the “one race only” idea if it were to succeed. In any imaginable scenario, the remaining people could rebuild a civilization, but to have all of the characteristics of all of the people evenly distributed throughout everyone everywhere would not be recoverable. It would be impossible to unravel the error.

So who is the “hater”? Observe: someone writes in and asks about interracial dating and its consequences and some encourage it. They encourage the person to undertake a taste of something new, perhaps thinking that it could be developed into an appetite? And, as we have seen, the person would encounter a dramatically increased possibility of a venereal disease and death. A monumental increase in the probability of divorce would occur, and mongrelized children would certainly be the outcome of a marriage. The children would suffer for such an indiscretion too. Hate upon Hate upon Hate.

Incredible!

 

[Prio]

1) Castro is the most famous.


2) nobody really knows Cruz outside of the Latin community. Ask a redneck who Celia Cruz is. Ask someone from Washington state who Cruz is.




and it's pretty arrogant and judgemental for you to claim you know more about Cuban culture than me. I'd take a 75% Cuban with 3 of 4 grandparents from Cuba and 1 parent from Cuba that lives only 10 minutes from Miami that goes to a 60% Cuban school with 90% latinos over some mulatto from the Caribbean with his token Cuban friend. That's like you me claiming I know more about black culture than you because my best friend is black. ROFL!


Again, there's always exceptions to the rule. But the true Cubans, the ones that left before 1979, the ones that hate Castro, 85% of them will not get near a black person or an Indian. I know Cubans that date black men.... they also are ignorant, gangbanging, wannabe hoodlums. The educated ones never go out with black men. Sorry, hate to disappoint you. Your fantasy world of the DR is nothing like the true Cubans. Now if you want to say that the Cubans in Cuba now are mixed, I'd agree. Something like 50% are mulatto.

Im sorry but that is not true. Discrimination is not class based, it is education - based.

I am *very* white, and so is all of my family, but we were raised with no conception of "race". In fact, im mostly attracted to latin women, but im also very attracted to women like Halle Berry or even the opposite...dark hair and white skin. My point is, attraction for me isnt based on some equation based strictly on skin, and that would not be a factor in my family for determining a relationship.


I usually find "mixed races" to be far *FAR* more beautiful that "pure" races.

 

[Friendly Otter]

Dawg, if I knew you I would **** your sister with my black **** just because of that ignorant stuff you said...no sister? I bet youve got a mom and you can believe she wants to know what itz like to have some chocolate in her!

Way to keep up that niggah attitude, homie. Whenever someone tries to discuss race instead of just parroting the mainstream media, something like this shows its head. Such a good ad. You're ruining the whole case the White liberals are trying to build here.

 

[Friendly Otter]

Wow. The amount of hypocrisy in this thread is amazing - no, not amazing, predictable, but sad nonetheless. How accepted it is for Blacks to identify group interests, and want to preserve their people - that's only "heritage." For Whites to do the same thing? "HATE!" scream the mainstream media. "HATE, HATE!" parrot the sheeple. Don't you, guys?

And despite having all the airtime, all the Politically Correct words meant to silence debate, you still pretend that the evil "racists" are in control, and your side is not.... Because how would you otherwise explain all the differences in behavior between groups? Has to be explained by "oppression". The media owners sell, you buy.

Me, I think it's perfectly understandable that Blacks, Arabs, Mestizos and any other group want to keep their identity and keep their group interests. I think it's okay for Whites to want the same thing - and you know what? Most people living outside the West take it for granted that Whites should think like this, like they do. It is only in the West that the thought control is going in full gear.

I do NOT think it's okay that an organization like La Raza gets tax money and a place in U.S. colleges, and a voice in the mainstream media - an organization that wants to separate the south-western U.S. from the rest of the country, an organization with a motto in Spanish that translates to "For the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing" while even for a White guy to say that he prefers to date within his own race, is "hate"!

Anyone who pretends there isn't hypocrisy in this, is a liar.


Oh yeah, and Whites are only twelve percent of the world population and decreasing, so we're a minority; let's hear none of the talk about "sensitivity toward minorities" here, unless you drop the hypocrisy and include Whites in that group as well.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Stormbringer is a racist troll. His only purpose here is to incite a race debate and vomit out more of his white-power propaganda.