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Stormbringer said:
If any white tv show character cracked even half as as many black jokes as your typical black sitcom (choose your UPN favorite) cracks white jokes, tons of hate mail would pour in, black civil rights organizations would protest, and the show would go off the air.

This is indicative of today's climate of extreme political correctness.

"Malibu's Most Wanted" doesn't poke fun at blacks, but at whites who act and talk like ghetto hip-hop blacks.
Got proof of that? Even if it were true- who cares? That's society's problem; part of becoming a PUA/ DJ is understanding what Badboy (from Mystery's Lounge, Eastern Europe, bodylanguage guy) calls the Social Matrix Theory and getting out of it.
 

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I make fun of my black friends all the time with black jokes- if you're being ratted out on when you're doing that it's not because you're white; you're just not seen as an alpha in the group. they're ratting on you because you're a beta male.
 

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This has absolutely nothing to do with alpha/beta crap. Nobody rags on me. But anti-white messages are there on tv and other pop media, however implicit they may be; and most people, being the accepting, media-fed droids that they are, don't realize this. They laugh it off; this includes many whites who are okay with being doormats.

There is a huge double standard in the media. A black person can raise his fist and yell "black power" and meet no reprisal. Now, what would happen if a white person said "white power," not out of claiming "white supremacy," but out of pride for their own European roots? Better yet, what if that person even simply stated "white pride," which has a "milder" connotation than "white power?" They'd STILL be branded a racist, white supremacist, KKK member, the whole lot.

If you want to put this in an "alpha" or "beta" context, it follows that your inability to process and realize this shows how you are a "beta" to the indoctrination that mass media is putting the masses through.
Just a few months ago, I was watching CNN. A black power guy came on talking about how blacks need to seperate from whites a la segregation style. He even proclaimed "black power". Guess what happened? He was called a racist and totally demeaned by the political commentators.

About a year ago on The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News Channel they had a similar guy, but white, and from a neo-nazi organization. The exact same thing happened to him.

Now, show me a double-standard. Dig some up and then realize that you're reality shouldn't be dependent on society's reality anyways. Society's reality shouldn't matter.
 

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The thing about people who don’t know too much is that they can be swayed by repetition. All you have to do is to set the stage in a certain fashion, have the right music, and then state and restate things over and over again in different ways, and most people will eventually believe what they have seen. The manipulators can use humor, contests, seemingly serious statements and interviews, peer pressure and so on. The more these folks are exposed to this technique, the more they believe what they have been lead to think, and the more they hate you for not going along with what they have in their heads. When you dare to contradict them, they spew out hatred and call you names. If you try to prove things to them, they refuse to do the homework and be open minded, so they just keep their opinions in spite of any evidence. This is referred to as “bigotry”, and they are fond of throwing that one around too. It’s a kind of Orwellian double-think, you see?

I don’t have all the time it would take to show all of the variations of the idea of race mixing, but here is one of them.

HIV.

“In 2003, an estimated 1.2 million persons in the United States were living with human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, 47% of whom were non-Hispanic blacks. This report describes racial/ethnic disparities in diagnoses of HIV/acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) during 2001-2004 and reported to CDC through June 2005 by 33 states that used confidential, name-based reporting of HIV and AIDS cases for at least 4 years. Of the estimated 157,252 diagnoses of HIV infection, the number of cases and diagnosis rates among blacks were higher than those for all other racial/ethnic populations combined. Among males, blacks had the largest or second-largest percentage of cases in every transmission category; among females, blacks had the largest percentage of cases in all transmission categories. Moreover, among both males and females, blacks represented the largest percentage of HIV/AIDS diagnoses in every age group. New and improved prevention strategies, including expanded HIV testing, targeted communications, and tailored prevention services, are needed to help address disparities in HIV transmission among blacks.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16467777&dopt=Abstract

If you read through all of the apologies and bleeding heart chest beatings, you will see that the Black race is and always has been the main carrier for the HIV virus. On some of the CDC sites, you’ll find liars who state things like this:

“Of new infections among women in the United States, CDC estimates that approximately 75 percent of women were infected through heterosexual sex and 25 percent through injection drug use. Of newly infected women, approximately 64 percent are black, 18 percent are white, 18 percent are Hispanic, and a small percentage are members of other racial/ethnic groups.”

http://aids.about.com/blUS4.htm

At first glance, it appears that the Whites and Hispanics are tied. So you might think that your odds are the same, but this is not so. Remember that Hispanics are a “minority” and so, if they are 15% (?) of the population and Whites are 75%(?), the odds of your getting HIV/AIDS from an Hispanic are absolutely huge by comparison. Apparently, a White woman has 14 times the possibility of contracting HIV from a Black male than a White male.

In some parts of sub-Sahara Africa, 70% of the population (Black) have HIV/AIDS. There was another genetic study that came out a few days ago that traced the HIV virus to a kind of monkey there. At any rate, there appears to be a genetic vector in the virus that preferentially attacks non-Whites. Even Jews have a higher per capita HIV/AIDS disease rate. A couple of days ago, I saw an article that said, if I remember correctly, that India has passed Africa in total number of infected. At any rate, it’s pretty well accepted that Black immigration brought HIV to America, and also that for the first several years, the virus stayed in the Black race.

So: those of you who think it’s OK to have sex with Blacks are part of the biological vector that transmitted the disease to ALL of the other races by your behavior. You are willingly, proudly and aggressively in the business of infecting everyone. Thanks for telling us who you are.

You see, if you think having sex with Blacks is OK, then your friends do too. And so must the women you “hang” with. This leaves the possibility that you get HIV from a woman you thought wasn’t Black, because she got it from a Black you don’t even know. And so on. And so on. They say that 25% of the people who are infected with HIV today don’t know it. This made me remember the queers who went ballistic about the idea of telling all their ex-lovers that they had discovered their contagion. That way, you could attempt to stop the disease in some way. They just freaked out. Human rights, invasion of privacy etc. etc. All this lovey dovey stuff just brings tears to my eyes. Bisexuals are another case, but the same kinds of things apply. They’re all about “love”, right? And then, “Needles, don’t you just love ‘em? Hey, we could share, it’s cheaper. Gosh I love you and we both hate the haters.”

I mean, how hateful do you have to be to deliberately infect some one you know with a lethal disease?

Here’s an example of that very kind of “hate”. In several wars, there have been recorded cases of women who either deliberately or accidentally got infected with syphilis or another STD. They would then go to bed with the enemy soldiers so that they would get infected. It was a sort of germ warfare. With all of the anti-male, anti-White pressure in the popular press, the Black against White hatred is immense.

Well, slyguy? Could it be that this woman might be infected and trying to get you sick too? Would you really trust your life to latex? Do you think that these people who encourage you to risk your life for pleasure are your friends? Would you think I were your friend if I saved your life?

One more point before I stop.

I said before that if you hang with women who think it’s OK to have sex interracially, then their friends, in all probability, will think it’s OK too. So, even if you don’t get HIV from a woman who is of your own race, and you marry her, she is going to tell your children interracial sex is OK. And so your genetic trace is weakened, since your children won’t be protected by knowledge. It took 13 billion years to get your genetic code to the point it is today. In one moment of indiscretion, a person can do irretrievable damage to their children’s children’s children. And I don’t care what your skin color is. There are no take-backs. So if you meet a woman who’s racial self esteem is this low, you should avoid her like the plague she is. Watch for drugs, theft, credit fraud and everything else you can think of.

Racially mixed children is another subject…

Later.
A white person with AIDS has a 100% chance of having AIDS. A black person without AIDS has a 0% chance of having AIDS.
 

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Sergkiller, baby...

As a white, anglo-saxon American man... I'm ashamed of you. Deeply and sincerely.

As a behavioral scientist and an educator... I'm saddened that you take your argument about spreading HIV seriously. It's horsesh!t.

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Can a Mod go ahead and close this thread or even delete it.

This wasn't about bringing out racism!


Thanks for all the advice everyone
 

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Stormbringer said:
Tell ya what...tune in to several black or predominantly-black sitcoms over the next few weeks, and consider how many cracks about whites you hear. Conversely, consider how many cracks about blacks you'll hear from whites. If you ever hear a black person call someone a "white boy," wonder why you never hear a white on tv call a black a "black boy." Why? Because that can only result in the black person getting all touchy and responding with "Boy? I'm a man!" If you want proof of the double-standard, look around without your pc blinders, and you'll find it. I found it; and I probably don't have more channels than you do.
Because during segregation, "boy" and "******" were used as derogatory terms. During segregation, no white called white people "boys" and white people weren't on the bad end of segregation, so to speak. That's the same reason "cracker" and "honkey" don't have the same connoctation. That's why it's generally OK for other races to call blacks ******s, like mexicans, etc; they were on the same end of segregation as the black people.

I didn't read the entire argument about HIV, but most people have the same chance of contracting HIV once it gets in their body. Though, about .5% of white people are immune to it since the same mutation that blocked the black plague when it spread arround Europe blocks the HIV receptor sites.
 

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And so your genetic trace is weakened

Interracial kids have stronger genes. When two opposite gene pools mix, the result is good. The more similar the two gene pools, the more likely that the kid with be a fvcked-up inbred. The royalty of the Middle Ages was fixated on 'sticking to their own kind,' and they became inbred freaks.

I met the last black girl I dated at law school. Both her parents are Deacons in her church. Do you really think she has HIV?
 

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Good genetic traits tend to be dominant, otherwise no one would get them and everyone would be genetically pathetic and die out. Obviously, some races do have some better traits than others. When mixed race offspring are born, they tend to get the best traits from both parents.

Not like superpeople or anything tho imo, it all depends on the individual, if two ****ty genetic people get together, the kid will still be ****ty
 

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When it comes to dating a woman: I personally don’t care about races. In fact, I was married with a woman from outside my race and outside my ethnicity.

I would, however, NEVER date a woman that


1- Dates or have slept with “ghetto” men
2- Dates or have slept with “gang bangers” men
3- Dates or have slept with “white trash” men


As you can see…there is one common denominator with the list above. And it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the kind of men they are. My point is…I would never date a woman that have such low self esteem as to pick such low choices in men.
 

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dirtyvibe said:
I make fun of my black friends all the time with black jokes- if you're being ratted out on when you're doing that it's not because you're white; you're just not seen as an alpha in the group. they're ratting on you because you're a beta male.

Races and ethnicity is something that should be treated with respect.

I don't ALLOW jokes about the women in my life (daughter, girlfriend, mother, sisters). I don't ALLOW jokes about my ethnicity either. That makes me an alpha. Make no mistake about that.

Making fun of somebody using racial innuendos is indeed degrading that person and his ethnicity.
 

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Tyrone Biggums said:
If you didn't care about interracial dating then why post about "sticking with your own kind". Black people who crack about Whites on television are stupid. Minorities who encourage segregation are not called "supremacists" because they don't have the power in this country.
dude, "supremacist" and sticking with your own race are two different things. there is nothing wrong with wanting you or your children to stay with their own kind.

i don't want mixed children or grandchildren, i want WHITE children and grandchildren. you want to mess up your race and create half-breed kids who are confused, go ahead that's your business and i could care less. i don't judge you, and you don't judge me and people like stormbringer. fair enough?
 

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BarMan said:
Woah! Psycho!
why is it pyshco? because it doesn't fit your PC pollyanna version of things? how about explaining why it is psycho to stick with your own kind? in my opinion it's "psycho" not to, but you don't see me screaming at people like you do. to each his own.
 

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dirtyvibe said:
Got proof of that? Even if it were true- who cares? That's society's problem; part of becoming a PUA/ DJ is understanding what Badboy (from Mystery's Lounge, Eastern Europe, bodylanguage guy) calls the Social Matrix Theory and getting out of it.
have you ever seen even one white comedian cracking black jokes the way chris rock (for example) talks **** on whites? how about *you* prove that the double standard doesn't exist by giving an example.
 

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A white person with AIDS has a 100% chance of having AIDS. A black person without AIDS has a 0% chance of having AIDS.
amazing logic there brainiac. doesn't do sh*t to counter the fact that blacks as a race have a higher infection rate.

but that's not the point. nobody has to explain why they will or will not mix. neither one is "evil" or "good" it all depends on your values. who the f*ck are you to judge me if i don't want to mix?
 

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have you ever seen even one white comedian cracking black jokes the way chris rock (for example) talks **** on whites? how about *you* prove that the double standard doesn't exist by giving an example.
South Park.. black guys play bass guitar. black guys/ kkk. etc. and chris rock usually doesnt even make fun of white people only. he'll compare white people and black people and the stark contrast is the joke.

i dont have to prove anything doesnt exist. kinda like people that are psychic and have x-men powers and are superheroes and live in the sky in a giant blackhole at the center of the universe plotting their revenge because aliens from jupiter killed them with thorn helmets. its your job to prove that something exists before you even bother considering it.
 

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amazing logic there brainiac. doesn't do sh*t to counter the fact that blacks as a race have a higher infection rate.

but that's not the point. nobody has to explain why they will or will not mix. neither one is "evil" or "good" it all depends on your values. who the f*ck are you to judge me if i don't want to mix?
point is to focus on the individual, not group people to groups they can't help but belong to and judge them on that.

if you had a scar on your forehead, and i found that 5% of people with scars on their foreheads had AIDS, and I chose not to hire you or made sure that my kids grandkids never made friends or procreated with people that had scars on their foreheads, how would you feel? Even if you didn't have AIDS and had an IQ of 150 and the fact that belonging to that group meant nothing about you except that you had a scar on your forehead?
 

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Interracial Marriage

Interracial marriage.

I’d like to complement the better part of the people who have responded to this post. Usually, you get panic reactions to these kinds of topics. But if you look back through the posts, you will see that gradually, the messages get more intelligent as people have time to think about their answers. This question on interracial dating is quite popular here, but I agree with slyguy that a full discussion on the subject of Race is quite beyond this site, and “racism” is also another subject entirely. Nonetheless, if you are interested in the subject, there are hundreds of studies and books done over the last 100 years. The results of these studies are simply suppressed by egalitarianism, especially in the universities since liberals have learning disabilities themselves. It is a fascinating subject if you have an independent mind. Anyhoo…

Once you understand how the frequency of STDs varies across races, you can see that to date a Black is dangerous, especially for Blacks, since they pretty much stay with their own, as they should. But the next topic would naturally be interracial marriage, and later, children.

I’ve looked at the idea of importing a Russian bride. The American women are so awful that I’m looking elsewhere. If you read these women's profiles, you will see things like: “I want to make a home.” “I want to love a man and have children.” “I can cook, I like classical music.” and things that. Especially if you a young American, you probably have never even heard a woman say these things. But marrying a foreigner has its downside. They were raised in an entirely different culture. And so there are plenty of warnings in the literature about the ensuing culture war that will arise if you actually do this.

Cultures are an effort by a gene set to protect itself. “The Family” is at the bottom of a culture. When the culture succeeds and finally establishes a geographic boundary, the end result is a nation. If you want to see what a culture really is, you have to look at it before it was contacted by another one. So if you want to see what the American Indians actually did, you need to look at them before the White man came. Although exceptions will exist, it is fair to deduce that a single individual will have many/most of the characteristics of the group, because characteristics are transmitted genetically. All cogent studies of IQ have shown that intelligence is transmitted genetically, and it is no great leap of logic to say that personalities are also transmitted this way. There is a dominant/recessive relationship, of course, but things like sense of humor, sarcasm, insight, friendliness, toughness etc. are the kinds of things I mean. Notice how subtle these things are?

When it comes to the subject (finally) of interracial marriage, you have the full enchilada in effect. Not only are you trying to blend two cultures, but you have major differences in physical characteristics. Races are different right down to the cellular level, which is why interracial marriages have such a phenomenal divorce rate. If you are not Black, and have ever talked to a Black one-on-one, you will see immediately that their personalities are completely different than the members of whatever racial set you come from. Failing that observation, watch racial groups cluster in a public social situation like a club or concert. Or just drive through different parts of town and watch the racial demographics change. Races know themselves and stick together. In other words, everybody’s a “racist”. Just ask the Black Chamber of Commerce or the Hispanic Small Businessmen’s Association. Who told us that being “racist” was a crime?

If you think that race doesn’t matter in marriage, you seem to be in disagreement with Mother Nature, who has color-coded us to keep things simple. To frustrate yourself against these kinds of apparent laws is completely foolish. You do so at your peril. The mass media has built up a false culture of individuality that says among other things, that you should avoid stereotypes. Yep! You just ignore all the warning signs and forge ahead! Right over the cliff! “Rock on, bro.”

Do you somewhere get the idea that you are being mislead? Do your leaders seem to be your friends? Could they do any worse if they knew you and hated you to death? First they lead you into a predictably doomed relationship and heighten your possibility of getting an STD. If you succeed at getting past all that, they then lure you into a marriage that will, with almost absolute certainty, lead to divorce. I mean gosh! That looks like a hatred of Titanic proportions to me. If I knew you, and wanted to destroy you, it would be difficult to think of a better plot.
 
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stormbringer, your name is a british white power skinhead band and your signature is from a song about killing black people..
 

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dirtyvibe said:
South Park.. black guys play bass guitar. black guys/ kkk. etc. and chris rock usually doesnt even make fun of white people only. he'll compare white people and black people and the stark contrast is the joke.

i dont have to prove anything doesnt exist. kinda like people that are psychic and have x-men powers and are superheroes and live in the sky in a giant blackhole at the center of the universe plotting their revenge because aliens from jupiter killed them with thorn helmets. its your job to prove that something exists before you even bother considering it.
south park makes fun of everyone, not just blacks so that's not a valid argument. chris rock rips in to white people way more than any other group, saying **** a white could never say in reverse. i have watched his dvds so don't try and deny it.

we could argue all day long about whether this comedian or that is racist, etc.

but i want to get back on topic here. don't try to change the subject. and the subject is - WHY are you judging people who choose not to mix? what makes you think that your values are superior to others?

and this goes for the rest of you PC peabrains. you self-righteous snobs claim to be open minded, but are often the biggest bigots of them all when people don't agree with you.
 
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