Insecurity disguised as low interest.

[Guy69JackBlue]

All this tells me is you are not a high enough value guy. You don’t comprehend what I’m saying because it isn’t your reality.

Always remember. A person with experience is NEVER at the mercy of a person with a theory.

Highly desirable sought after men can and do pull off blatantly bold moves. They are charming & direct. It’s efficient & it screens out the easily offended women and the not interested women. Allowing them to focus on high interest gals. Pretty slick actually.

You don’t need a ONS to experience heartbreak. Another patently obvious thing. I’ve had heartbreak after LTRs. Which I presume is actually worse due to the emotional attachment. Countless threads here indicate the same thing among men.

The sophomoric nature of your binary thinking reveals your own lack. You are welcome to lampoon me as others before you have done. Some of your content is noteworthy. You are way off in this thread however and that will be obvious to a truly high value playboy type man.

Cheers

Or maybe you're biased because you have no knowledge of the guys who looked at you and decided you didn't look worth talking to.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

It's difficult to take your posts seriously. Every time I see you post something I just think of Brokeback Mountain.

okay Mr. black pill

 

[Barrister]

I assume you're looking for a deeper connection with a woman, beyond just pump and dump. Correct me if I'm wrong.

We'd all like something more than just a high notch count with women. There is certainly an emptiness to it, particularly if you're prone to loneliness and you don't have hobbies and a mission in life outside of women.

Having a deep connection with a woman is very nice, but I'd strongly maintain that the risks outweigh the rewards. I've mentioned it many times before, but when you develop an attachment to a woman she senses it and it just turns her off. Being attached to a woman alters male behavior in such a way where a woman feels like she's "won you over", and unfortunately the challenge is gone for her. This leads to complacency, comfort, and then eventual monkey branching because we are in a unique era where women have the entire global male population at their fingertips via the internet. This facilitates enormous and rampant hypergamy. Combine that with Western culture and how it's teaching women to behave ("never settle for less"). It's LTR poison.

Slapping "generic" labels on things is absolutely fine if it's accurate. For example, men want sex more than women do and this gives women power over men. You can fiddle and fart around and say that "some women want sex more than men do", but that's just silly because it's the exception to the rule.

My position is that notches is the best way to deal with women in the modern world, and if an exceptional one comes along that fights for you and truly tries to win you over, then consider a RedPill LTR with her and be well aware of the risks, and hedge against it.

But if you're generally seeking deeper connections with women, beyond the notch, it is a very unhappy mindset to be in. I have some friends who are Girlfriend Seeking at the moment and they are miserable.

I am not seeking anything right now. I am focused on my career and I am doing quite well with it. I have 2 plates who I see periodically here and there and I’m fine with that. They are not a priority for me. However, I do desire a deeper connection because it enriches the experiences you have. Don’t read that to mean an LTR necessarily. I am not a fan of pump and dumps or “notches” like you are. I am not judging in any way because if that makes you happy then I say go for it. But don’t assume that is what everyone wants or should want. Because I can tell you that the pump and dump and ONS scene I have partook in and I find it to be very unfulfilling.

I understand your position and respect it. Your trepidations about LTRs certainly have some truth to them and I have been burned multiple times in LTRs. But that doesn’t mean that going for notches is the answer (at least not for me). I do think it’s possible to still have a meaningful connection with a woman so long as you properly maintain boundaries. If that makes me “purple pill” then so be it.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I know plenty of guys who prefer having a rotation of plates. Horses for courses. The plates always end up leaving, or getting dumped eventually. A plated relationship isn't sustainable long-term in most cases. The way I see it is that to "plate" a woman then you must be emotionally disconnected from her, right? So there's little difference between plates and ONS. A plate is someone you pump and dump multiple times. Guys like me just prefer the variety. I get bored of banging a girl very quickly if there's no emotional connection. Also, pump and dump helps me to avoid attachment and her trying to move into my place. I only need to bang her once or twice and then I move on to the next pvssy, which is easy to find. I also genuinely enjoy the process of seducing new women. Guys who I know with a plates-system seem to find the seduction process tiresome, so they hang onto the girls they seduce.

There's not much difference between what you and I are doing. We are both into low commitment interactions with women. It's just that you're in low commitment with 2 women, and I'm in low commitment with multiple women.

BS 101: no guy is pumping and dumping hot/quality women...all I’m saying

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

BS 101: no guy is pumping and dumping hot/quality women...all I’m saying

They have 10 Victoria Secret models they can call up any time just for quick sex.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

@Knight of Roses: I think when you say low *interest*, you might be confusing it with low *attraction*. This women DID have low interest (at the time) because she assumed you were a "playboy" which is actually true based on your subsequent posts.

However, the attraction was there and you eventually were able to break down her defenses.

@Pan87, I do enjoy reading your posts and I mean that sincerely! Gotta admire the honesty and personally enjoy the brashness.

What you post is YOUR experience and far be it for me to argue with that. But keep in mind your age demographic is low to mid-20s, young women whose brains aren't even fully developed yet! Xd

I was just what you post about when that age (I just turned 30 BTW). Attracted to men whose feelings I wasnt sure of (straight from Corey Wayne - a PUA wannabe if there ever was one).

But once a woman's brain is fully developed, post 25 years) there's a shift. I'm generalizing but it was true for me and many women I know.

We go for men who are bold and direct, not afraid to express his sexual desire. Its intriguing and very seductive.

My thinking and everything I've read suggests that men who have a need to keep women off balance, anxious and insecure, are insecure themselves.

It IS how I feel when encountering such man. This is my experience so no need refuting it just as I'm not refuting your experience.

I'm sorry your last girlfriend ripped your heart out to the point you distrust all women, that sucks.

What is your purpose of being on this website?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

To provide a woman's perspective, same as @BeExcellent and other women on this site.

If not welcome, I will leave however thought you might appreciate being challenged on your collective thought processes.

Personally I enjoy being challenged, I love a healthy exchange of ideas, if you don't, so be.

Most of the guys here already know that it's stupid to listen to female opinions on this. It's not through stubbornness, it's through experience.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Bye.

Promise?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Both you and BeExcellent are post-wall. So, as I said earlier, it's in both your interests for men to overtly display their attraction to you because you're not getting as many buying signals from men as you used to. It also gives you all the power when a man lays his cards on the table. You're just confirming yet again that taking dating advice from women, as a man, is completely self-sabotaging.

My last girlfriend didn't rip my heart out. I cheated on her multiple times, got caught multiple times, got her back multiple times. Eventually she left and went to therapy (she's still there a year later). I hope she's okay. I do feel a bit bad about it. Poor thing.

How old are they?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You're not pumping and dumping hot women Jake. Stop projecting your incel life onto others.

I know plenty of guys who prefer having a rotation of plates. Horses for courses. The plates always end up leaving, or getting dumped eventually. A plated relationship isn't sustainable long-term in most cases. The way I see it is that to "plate" a woman then you must be emotionally disconnected from her, right? So there's little difference between plates and ONS. A plate is someone you pump and dump multiple times. Guys like me just prefer the variety. I get bored of banging a girl very quickly if there's no emotional connection. Also, pump and dump helps me to avoid attachment and her trying to move into my place. I only need to bang her once or twice and then I move on to the next pvssy, which is easy to find. I also genuinely enjoy the process of seducing new women. Guys who I know with a plates-system seem to find the seduction process tiresome, so they hang onto the girls they seduce.

There's not much difference between what you and I are doing. We are both into low commitment interactions with women. It's just that you're in low commitment with 2 women, and I'm in low commitment with multiple women.

I never said I was, I'm calling your behind out. I'm sick of fools coming on here acting like they are hot shvt because they can have sex with multiple ugly/fat single moms. Cmon man

 

[Barrister]

I know plenty of guys who prefer having a rotation of plates. Horses for courses. The plates always end up leaving, or getting dumped eventually. A plated relationship isn't sustainable long-term in most cases. The way I see it is that to "plate" a woman then you must be emotionally disconnected from her, right? So there's little difference between plates and ONS. A plate is someone you pump and dump multiple times. Guys like me just prefer the variety. I get bored of banging a girl very quickly if there's no emotional connection. Also, pump and dump helps me to avoid attachment and her trying to move into my place. I only need to bang her once or twice and then I move on to the next pvssy, which is easy to find. I also genuinely enjoy the process of seducing new women. Guys who I know with a plates-system seem to find the seduction process tiresome, so they hang onto the girls they seduce.

There's not much difference between what you and I are doing. We are both into low commitment interactions with women. It's just that you're in low commitment with 2 women, and I'm in low commitment with multiple women.

The seduction system isn’t so much tiresome to me. I enjoy a good seducing. But banging some Tinder chick or a girl I picked up at the bar isn’t as fulfilling to me as getting one through my social circle or IRL where there is a more meaningful foundation. And once I get these women who I have more foundation with - I prefer to hang onto them. Again, not necessarily LTR.

Since you say you get bored without the emotional connection it sounds like we may in fact be more on the same page than what I believed. A little surprising for “notch” guy.

 

[Robert28]

OP, come on man. Your answer is right here.

Men, why go out with a woman that says no three times before saying yes? She has low interest level. No further analysis is needed.

But she still fvcked him on the first date. This is a weird situation for sure.

 

[Robert28]

Hell I had a woman call me a prude before. I didn’t find out later that’s why she wouldn’t go out with me but she told her friend she thought I was “prudish”. Didn’t know a guy could be a prude. Guess she wanted me to sexually harass her from the initial meeting or something.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You're getting very weird, my friend.

No one is talking about having sex with fat ugly single moms, and I'm very sorry if they are the only women you are capable of seducing.

Here's some advice. Stop calling yourself out by projecting your weird incel life onto others - other people experience life differently to you. This is basic human-to-human stuff. Next, you need to Level-up (work out, move out of your mom's basement, get a job) and the quality of the women you bang might improve. But you'll have to fix the weirdness too.

So you are telling me that you are pumping and dumping hot women for the **** of it? If Kylie Jenner(a girl I prefer) was to come over, **** the shvt out of you, give you a bj to the moon, and you wake up with her cooking you breakfast and coffee, you would pump and dump her to remain emotionally distant? No you wouldn't because not a single straight sane man would.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

You're getting very weird, my friend.

No one is talking about having sex with fat ugly single moms, and I'm very sorry if they are the only women you are capable of seducing.

Here's some advice. Stop calling yourself out by projecting your weird incel life onto others - other people experience life differently to you. This is basic human-to-human stuff. Next, you need to Level-up (work out, move out of your mom's basement, get a job) and the quality of the women you bang might improve. But you'll have to fix the weirdness too.

If there's anyone on this forum claiming that they have a rotation of highly attractive females that they fvck for free with no strings attached any time they want.... I call them a liar too.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I just turned 30 last week.

No worries @Pan87, I don't judge you not that you care.

I've been stalked, and found it troubling.

Look, didn't mean to start a war, seriously, I just thought you'd be open to something different. A break from your *norm*.

I'm not like most women, every man I've ever been with told me that, not that I expect you to believe it.

If whatever you do works for you, fabulous! Carry on.

Peace.

Post a picture of yourself without any weird filters or excessive cosmetics.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You're in scarcity mindset that's why you can't imagine it.

Have you ever banged a hot woman before? The memory lasts forever. You don't have to keep seeing her. It's a great experience, and you move on to the next one.

Falling in love and LTR-ing hot women is Beta. I found this out the hard way.

Here comes the lame PUA marketing terminology. You are a fraud, just admit it. I said hot/quality women, not hot bat **** crazy women that you would not want to be around for a second. If this is true then I am guessing you are hanging around prostitutes, strippers, and coke heads for all I could see.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

bat **** crazy women

That are also fvcking other guys

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I feel sorry for you, man. You're entire mindset is a cope.

As a man, nothing is given to you. You have to fight for it. You are in competition, right now, with all the other men on this planet who all want to bang hot women. You have to be better than them. You have to grow and improve and learn how to extract the riches that life has to offer (and life is short!).

And this is some big talk. But I don't think you can back it up with results of your own.

If you were to show us all the females you currently have at your disposal, I don't think we'd be impressed.

 

[EyeBRollin]

But she still fvcked him on the first date. This is a weird situation for sure.

Sex =/= interest level