Information on Accessing Your Past Lifetimes

[Wiesman44]

I looked, I found organs, bones and a couple hamburgers that I ate in 1993. No soul though.

But that is beside the point, I didn't ask you where you think the soul is, I asked for proof that the soul exists. As far as I know there is no proof that souls exist.

Lol, how about you do some meditation. That is how you'll find your proof. Although, based upon your condascending nature, I really don't think you are ready. Good luck though.

AND, i never asked you to believe me !

 

[Alle_Gory]

Although, based upon your condascending nature, I really don't think you are ready.

I disagree. Based on that condescending nature, he needs meditation most.

 

[Rogue]

If you think this information is all bs, you have every right. But, it is much better to read through this information with a scientific mind.

You wouldn't know science if it punched you in a Guy Ritchie flick.

Many of you won’t believe this, but our souls are millions of years old.

There is no credible scientific evidence humans possess a soul, and not only does the evidence fall orders of magnitude short of Carl Sagan's burden of extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence, there is no scientific reason why a soul should be expected to exist. Yes, to preemptively refute a common argument, mechanistic underpinnings of human consciousness may still have much to be explained by further advances of modern science, but argument from ignorance is a logical fallacy and inexplicable is not unexplainable. In the recent words of the preeminent Michael Shermer:

[There are] essentially three different lines of evidence that lead us to conclude that the idea of the afterlife is probably a product of our brains, starting off with our brains. That is, we're natural born dualists. We tend to think that mind is separate from brain because our brains can't perceive themselves. So we naturally think there's something else sort of floating around up there. But we know for a fact that if you remove part of the brain through stroke, surgery, injury, from an impact or whatever, whatever the function was that was destroyed in that part of the neural tissue, that function is gone. That part of the mind is gone forever unless it's rewired.

[Secondly,] our primary function of our brains is to run our bodies. And we have a neural network in our left hemisphere that coordinates all the inputs from the body into a cell. So we have a sense of self that we can decenter. We can imagine being somewhere else. Close your eyes and picture yourself on a beautiful California beach. Almost everybody will see themselves -- their bodies down on the sand, not looking out through their eyes but actually seeing their bodies. So that's kind of what happens in an out-of-body near-death experience.

And three, we know from extreme sports, from maintain climbers, from Arctic explorers, that they have a third man factor. They have a sense of presence, like there's somebody else nearby, even though there clearly isn't. This could be oxygen deprivation, it could be cold, it could be starvation, it could just be loneliness. So our brains concoct this alternative person -- another sense presence that we can't sense being inside of ourselves, so we think of it out there -- an extension of ourselves. And in a way, a mind that continues into the indefinite future of an afterlife is like that. (source)

The human mind is anthropocentric.

2012 will mark a special time as many souls will be ascending because of the galactic shift. Earth will align with the center of the universe and the central sun in this galaxy will shine radiation directly into the earth creating many many different effects those of which I won’t go into unless asked. During this shift, the earth will move on to 4th density, and many of the 3rd density souls will not be able to sustain habitation here and will leave their physical bodies and carnate on a planet more suited to their needs.

(HAHAHA. Bullshït! You are so ignorant of astronomy. Do you realize that every point in the universe -- including the question mark at the end of this sentence or somewhere ten million light years from here -- is the center of the universe? Do you also realize there is a supermassive black hole -- not a sun -- at the center of this galaxy? Do you realize the difference between the solar system and the galaxy? You must have meant "the central sun in this solar system" but nonetheless you are still wrong. The sun will eventually expand but in a few billion years, not two years from now as you idiotically suggest. There is nothing special about the year 2012 except we will flip our calendars to the next year just like any other year.)

In fact, the DNA that many scientists label as junk is in fact memories of our past lifetimes.

Bullshïttio. There are no memories in protein synthesis . In fact, eight percent (if not more) of the human genome are fossil viruses (source). What do you suppose are the memories of a retrovirus like Ebola or HIV?

It is extremely difficult, and it is much easier to remember through hypnosis... I have, through meditative hypnosis, been able to remember 3 lifetimes. One of which, was a lifetime on another planet. Another of which was during what I think was the roman times. Another was during the times of Atlantis.

You do realize that hypnosis creates false memories, right. You do realize that fantasy is not reality, right. You do realize Atlantis was fictitious, right, and never could have existed. People remember alien abductions which never happened, false memories formed from the power of suggestion during hypnosis.

Based upon your condascending (sic) nature, I really don't think you are ready.

We skeptics must be interfering you with our "negative energy."

Deep Dish

 

[Wiesman44]

sorry by center of the universe i meant center of the galaxy.

Why are you bothering to argue with me ? My mind is made up.

1) I was not aware of hynosis creating false memories, but it doesn't matter b/c I wasnt hynotized. I used the term b/c it was easy for everyone to understand

2) How do you know that alien abductions didn't happen. And why would hundreds of thousands of people have partial memories of alien abductions ? Are all these people lying ?

3) I believe Atlantis did exist, and just b/c you don't believe it does, does not mean you are correct. Ever hear of the bermuda triangle ? They are connected IMO, but I won't go on as I won't change your mind. Who knows, maybe it didn't. But telling me it did not exist is worthless as neither of us have proof.

4) Skeptics do not create negative energy. In fact, I encourage you to be a skeptic. Being skeptical of something that seems outrageous by many is perfectly understandable. Negative energy is created from fear, hate, and judgementalism.

But I do find it humorous how people attack each other over things that they do not understand or think is crazy. Hence why black people were enslaved, jesus was crucified, witches were hung, and non christians were persecuted during the dark ages.

Okay, i gotta go. Time to go babysit some criminals during graveyard shift

 

[SharinganUser]

Lol, how about you do some meditation. That is how you'll find your proof. Although, based upon your condascending nature, I really don't think you are ready. Good luck though.

AND, i never asked you to believe me !

Don't presume to think that I don't meditate. I meditate on real things such as a task I have to do or to deal with stress or anger. I won't waste my time meditating on things like fantasies about being an Avatar in a previous life or if there is a magical turtle in the sky.

 

[Wiesman44]

Don't presume to think that I don't meditate. I meditate on real things such as a task I have to do or to deal with stress or anger. I won't waste my time meditating on things like fantasies about being an Avatar in a previous life or if there is a magical turtle in the sky.

I'm not presuming you do or you don't. I dont know you whatsoever.
And not doing it is your choice. If you choose not to believe, thats fine. To each his own.

 

[Rogue]

I was not aware of hynosis (sic) creating false memories, but it doesn't matter b/c I wasnt (sic) hynotized (sic). I used the term b/c it was easy for everyone to understand.

You should read scientific literature on the fragilities, malleabilities, and suggestibilities of human memory. And by the way, all hypnosis is self-hypnosis, there doesn't need to be a hypnosis practitioner to hypnotize you, and all hypnosis is meditation, to which you admit practicing. You're just tricking yourself that you didn't trick yourself.

2) How do you know that alien abductions didn't happen. And why would hundreds of thousands of people have partial memories of alien abductions? Are all these people lying?

They are self-deluded. There are three factors: 1) One out of four people (including myself) are affected by hypnagonic or hypnopompic hallucinations occuring either before or after sleep, the hallucinations usually prompted either by sleep deprivation or stress, and during the hallucination the body is momentarily paralyzed. This explains every element of the supposed alien abduction: you wake up, you see something bizarre, you can't move, and a few seconds later it's gone; 2) Now factor scientific illiteracy and/or gullible inclinations towards supernatural beliefs; 3) These people then seek regressive hypnosis to "better remember" and the distortions of memory and confabulation come into play.

3) I believe Atlantis did exist, and just b/c you don't believe it does, does not mean you are correct.

Atlantis was a fable morality story by Plato to argue a moral point and as the Oxford educated Columbia University literary scholar Alan Cameron stated, "It is only in modern times that people have taken the Atlantis story seriously; no one did so in antiquity." Moreover, the scientific discovery of plate techonics over a century ago conclusively eliminates the possibility of a continent "sinking." And as National Geographic explorer Robert Ballard, discoverer of the wrecked remains of the Titantic, notes (source), "no Nobel laureates" believe the story is true. And why pick Plato? Why don't you remember your past lives in Geoffrey Chaucer's fables?

Why are you bothering to argue with me ? My mind is made up.

Because thinking more clearly and realizing you held a misbelief is a most wonderful thing.

 

[Wiesman44]

why do u bother arguing ? You're not going to change my mind

 

[Wiesman44]

Because thinking more clearly and realizing you held a misbelief is a most wonderful thing.

Typical example of people today. So because I do not agree with your opinion, I am not thinking clearly. Oh I suppose my view of opposing the death penalty is me not thinking clearly either. Or my views against big gov't. Ya, I must not be thinking clearly either.

Seriously man. I dont want to point fingers as I do not know you, but it seems as though you derive an ego trip out of this..... ie thinking you can argue to a point where I give in and agree with u something that will satisfy you ? Yes, that is your ego talking. Ego has gotten man in trouble for thousands of year. Better not to succumb to it.

 

[Phat]

Crack Head.

 

[Phat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5IswrbAiLU

This reminds me of your wiesman

 

[Rogue]

Typical example of people today. So because I do not agree with your opinion, I am not thinking clearly. Oh I suppose my view of opposing the death penalty is me not thinking clearly either. Or my views against big gov't. Ya, I must not be thinking clearly either.

I tend to stay away from opinion-based discussions and gravitate towards discussing facts. Whereas people are entitled to their opinions, reality is based on facts and you cannot cherry pick your facts. Notice how you did say: "It is much better to read through this information with a scientific mind." I have a notoriously vigorous scientifically-structured mind, probably moreso than anyone on this forum, and so I'm simply dishing to you how the scientifically-minded would critically assess the veracity of your claims. Science is notoriously harsh and not for the faint of heart. What the scientifically-minded would never say is "Why are you arguing with me? You're not going to change my mind." Like the Dalai Lama quote in my signature, "To defy the authority of empirical evidence is to disqualify oneself as someone worthy of critical engagement in a dialogue."

 

[Wiesman44]

You bring up a great point. But the thing is, I've already vigorously examined the subject myself. Therefore, my mind is made up on the subject. Now, if I was being presented this material for the first time, then I would scientifically examine it.

But I've spent hundreds of hours with this type of material (past lifetimes, spirtuality, the soul, metaphysics) and I've already formed the basis of my spirituality and the subjects that branch off of it.

Let me ask you this one, do u think pyschics are full of it ?

And Phat, please save the name calling and rude remarks for when they actually lock me up in the funny farm. Then you can point and laugh all you want.

 

[Rogue]

Those subjects are all speculation, fantasy, imagination. It really doesn't and shouldn't matter if you have wasted hundreds or tens of thousands of hours invested in these subjects, it must be scientifically examined, because if you don't then you will waste even more time -- your entire life.

Let's test one of your claims. You say junk DNA is memories from past lives. Yet, aside from the fact that memories are not sets of instructions for protein synthesis, memories are stored in the neurons of your brain and for any genetic code to be passed down from one generation to the next it must occur in reproductive cells. Blood carries red and white blood cells, plasma, oxygen, cellular waste, hormones, and so forth. But not memories. It's impossible for your memories to be transported from your brain to your little sailors down below. You cannot cite some metaphysical "spiritual realm" mumbo jumbo because DNA is physical.

Let me ask you this one, do u think pyschics are full of it?

Psychics employ the parlor tricks of cold reading and, occasionally, hot reading. There are two and only two types of psychics: deluded or pathological liar.

cold reading

Among practitioners of the occult arts, there is a technique known as “cold reading.” When the performer is faced with an audience that is entirely strange to him, he uses this tried-and-true method of guessing names, relationships, events, and situations that might relate to audience members. The technique is differentiated from “hot reading,” which is used when the reader has obtained specific, hard information about a sitter and merely has to reveal it in a convincing manner (source).

To quote from the Carl Sagan book The Demon-Haunted World:

How is it, I ask myself, that channelers never give us verifiable information otherwise unavailable? Why does Alexander the Great never tells us about the exact location of his tomb, Fermat about his Last Theorem, John Wilkes Booth about the Lincoln assassination conspiracy, Hermann Göring about the Reichstag fire? Why don't Sophocles, Democritus, and Aristarchus dictate their lost books? Don't they wish future generations to have access to their masterpieces?

If some good evidence for life after death were announced, I'd be eager to examine it; but it would have to be real scientific data, not mere anecdote. As for the face of Mars and alien abductions, better the hard truth, I say, than the comforting fantasy. And in the final toiling it often turns out that the facts are more comforting than the fantasy.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Let me ask you this one, do u think *psychics* are full of it ?

Have you found any genuine psychics? If so, I'm really interested in their services.

 

[Wiesman44]

Yes, there are many genuine psychics out there. Although the one I use is a spiritual hearler / timeline healer (past lives), and claravoyent. And no, there's no bs involved with it. I also have read the book that he wrote.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Yes, there are many genuine psychics out there.

That's news to me. All I see are pretenders doing it for a quick buck.

I also have read the book that he wrote.

Although I don't believe is psychics because of what I have seen so far, I am willing to reconsider. What's the book called?

 

[shaunuk]

This thread is too funny.


Now I don't feel so loony about believing in God.

lol, believing in a god is about as loony as the claims in this thread, in my opinion. In fact I think they're similar kind of beliefs - some "religions" with god(s) do believe in reincarnation, and I tend to think all religions are absurd. I don't hold belief in any of them, but just cause that's my opinion doesn't make it true. . .

My opinion on this topic is that it's a load of bull basically, but even saying that is pointless, considering it doesn't look like any of us can prove anything either way.

 

[Rogue]

My opinion on this topic is that it's a load of bull basically, but even saying that is pointless, considering it doesn't look like any of us can prove anything either way.

I wonder how many people are aware of Carl Sagan's baloney detection kit.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Interesting. I ask him to tell me the name of a genuine psychic and he ignores it.

I'm going to assume there are no psychics. I haven't seen any evidence to prove their existence so far besides rhetoric and bullcrap.