In a Dark Place...Help Me Reach the Acceptance Phase

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Seduced a young single mother who works at a cafe about 3 years ago. Used all the classic PUA tactics, got her to fall in love with me, and eventually moved into her place (I know, I know).

Things were pretty good, though I never really felt "in love" at the time. What I really enjoyed was her company in small doses: I work just across the street from where she is and would always visit her there on my break. It was just pleasant.

The power was always mine, she definitely was more into me than I was into her. This went on for about 2.5 years. I got comfortable, far too comfortable. Less interested in sex, working a lot and pursuing a degree stressed me out and I neglected her.

I cheated on her one night, came home with a hickey, and tried to lie about it. Drama ensued, I finally admitted to cheating, and I started losing my frame and power.

Then she starts telling me about a coworker of hers that is an "artist" and giving her gifts and ****. I brush it off, never act jealous. She tells me one night that she's going to a party with her friend (I couldn't because of work) and I stupidly oblige her.

Well, she made out with the guy and the next night gave me the "I'm confused" line. She told me that I've been so cold and so distant with her for so long, and that talking to this other guy felt so natural. At first, I agreed with her, told her maybe she needs a guy who is more in touch with his feelings.

The next day, as I was beginning to pack my things, something hit me. I felt a great sense of loss and guilt for how I had neglected this girl that loved me so much. I emailed her saying just that. All of a sudden she's crying and says "I don't want to lose you", telling me she's going to give me one more chance. I again, stupidly, oblige. Three days later, I'm getting jealous that she's still texting this coworker, basically having an emotional affair. I get drunk and act a fool, suggest that its too late and the damage has been done. She gets teary and nods her head, I get angry and leave that night. Come back the next four nights, we have sex and talk about "us". Another big mistake. I'm trying to play it cool, but inside I'm really damaged and realize I don't want to lose this girl.

Its been a little over a month now and I am seriously ****ed up. I'm basically alone in a ****ty town with mostly low quality unattractive women. My now ex girlfriend works across the street and I no longer have that comfort of going there to talk to her. I'm trying not to be a *****, but I've honestly never felt this way before. I can't even cry, I tried to a couple times to "get it out" but its like a huge void in my chest is just gradually killing me.

I've contacted her. Spent the night over there recently. Tried to kiss her, she backed off and told me she can't. Proceeds to tell me all the reasons she broke it off, its always something different. In my heart I know its because she wants to **** her coworker. The next morning, hungover, I went through her text messages. Saw some pretty revealing things, she had been talking to this guy ABOUT ME behind my back for a while now.

I told her that I saw the texts and that I felt like she used me. Got pouty and accused her of branch swinging on me and just keeping me around for comfort. She got super pissed, a side of her I had never seen before, and told me to get the **** out. I immediately felt guilty.

I don't know, I'm just so lost now. She's already booked a weekend getaway in New York with this new guy. He does all the things that I avoided like constantly buying her gifts and **** and he's already said in a text "I think I'm falling in love with you". To me it seems like he's AFC and maybe that's what my ex wants but I'm willing to accept he has more game than me.

I admit, I'm hanging on to the slim hope that this guy is just a fling and that she's going to miss me and want me back eventually. Even though I know its ridiculous. I know the rule of thumb is never go back to a girl who dumped you, but I'm rationalizing it as I was the one who cheated and lied first.

I just really miss her, and I keep swaying back and forth from guilt to how I ruined a good thing and anger as to the way she's brushed me off. Trying to stay no contact and it is not easy.

I'm not even sure what I want to hear from you guys, just needed to get that off my chest. I miss her so much sometimes that I have trouble breathing.
 

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Dear Cheeks,
Sounds like something out of Mills and Boon.
 

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Sounds like you're in a real ****ty situation - sorry to hear that. The only thing I can recommend is cutting off all contact. If you completely shut her out and try to stay busy doing other things, you'll eventually get over it.. but it'll be pretty painful in the beginning. Just stay strong..
 

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SteR said:
Sounds like you're in a real ****ty situation - sorry to hear that. The only thing I can recommend is cutting off all contact. If you completely shut her out and try to stay busy doing other things, you'll eventually get over it.. but it'll be pretty painful in the beginning. Just stay strong..
Yeah, I've resolved to not contact her. If she contacts me at some point, I'm not sure how to react.

When we broke up she said things like "I've never been in a relationship like this before" and "my parents split up before they got back together", giving me signs that there might be a future.

Don't know if I should ignore her or just be polite and friendly in small doses.
 

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Well, since i'm not you and am on the outside looking in I can easily tell you that this isn't really a big deal and you shouldn't take it hard at all.

Make peace with it, accept it and go on with your life, a lot of exciting things will happen to you, just relax and enjoy the movie that is 'your life'. Nothing to worry about.
 

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Cheeks said:
Yeah, I've resolved to not contact her. If she contacts me at some point, I'm not sure how to react.

When we broke up she said things like "I've never been in a relationship like this before" and "my parents split up before they got back together", giving me signs that there might be a future.

Don't know if I should ignore her or just be polite and friendly in small doses.
If it were me I'd ignore her. I was in a similar situation a long time ago and I kept thinking I could 'be civil' but in the end I had to cut her off completely
 

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st_99 said:
Well, since i'm not you and am on the outside looking in I can easily tell you that this isn't really a big deal and you shouldn't take it hard at all.

Make peace with it, accept it and go on with your life, a lot of exciting things will happen to you, just relax and enjoy the movie that is 'your life'. Nothing to worry about.
Problem is, while I know your advice is sound, it doesn't prevent me from waking up at 3 AM in a panic, shaking and sweating. I can't focus on anything anymore. Every time I attempt to stay busy it just causes me to break down further. The only solace I have is browsing these forums and chain-smoking Marlboros.

I'm a mess.
 

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Cheeks said:
Problem is, while I know your advice is sound, it doesn't prevent me from waking up at 3 AM in a panic, shaking and sweating. I can't focus on anything anymore. Every time I attempt to stay busy it just causes me to break down further. The only solace I have is browsing these forums and chain-smoking Marlboros.

I'm a mess.
Its not about staying busy or 'fogetting about her'. None of that is what i'm talking about, think about her all you want or sit on your sofa and be bored and all thats totally fine.

You need to internalize what i'm saying.. IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT YOU 2 ARE NOT TOGETHER ANYMORE. Life follows a script like a book or a movie and you're just going through it, dont worry about it, kick back and enjoy. Good AND bad things are coming, just enjoy it.
 

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in time you will be ok...but at the moment you are losing energy to her as she is not reciprocating. You need to stop and gain control else it can go on for years. Basically man the **** up soldier ! you dont need to be angry at her just treat her like a friend now, it is over. Realise that there are 3b women in the world and a lot without kids...
 

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It took me the greater part of a year to get over my last relationship...it took that long to have a good weep and get it all out.

I spent a lot of time on hobbies I was into to keep her out of my mind.
 

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So in a situation like mine, where she essentially checked out of the relationship after I had cheated on her, is it best to never initiate contact if I want the power to reel her in again?

I mean, she has this guy supplicating to her now and he's also a co-worker, so I don't really see it lasting that long. Is it wise to do the old preying on her weakened state if the **** hits the fan?
 

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walk it off, buddy. That's what happens to relationships: they end. Just don't do anything really really stupid. You'll do stupid stuff for sure, but hopefully nothing really really stupid.
 

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you may or may not get a drunk dial call from her in the next couple of months wanting some action.

But walk it off.
 

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I think you need to leave the ****ty town and quit dating single mothers...
 

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I like the part how you keep feeling guilty, I especially like the art hwo she has tuned this whole thing around into how she broke it off!!!!

you have been outplayed old boy, if you are going to walk, f uckign walk and dont turn around.
you feel beat up because you have been outplayed, not because you lost a really good woman.
were you really alpha? are you? does it matter?
no more contact with her, make an effort to move away
 

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betheman said:
I like the part how you keep feeling guilty, I especially like the art hwo she has tuned this whole thing around into how she broke it off!!!!

you have been outplayed old boy, if you are going to walk, f uckign walk and dont turn around.
you feel beat up because you have been outplayed, not because you lost a really good woman.
were you really alpha? are you? does it matter?
no more contact with her, make an effort to move away

That's what confuses me though. I'm not sure how guilty I should feel. I mean I did cheat on her in a moment of weakness. But I was always supportive of her and tried to motivate her to go back to school and find a better job.

She's extremely depressive and even threatened to kill herself by overdosing on pills once. I had to rip the bottle from her hand and left her crying in the bathroom. I know this sounds like something not worth holding on to, but I sympathize with her because she is a single mother with a low-paying job and I was not putting my all into the relationship. She really is a decent woman and I feel like I took advantage of her without realizing what I had.

What really gets me is after all the support I offered to her, it seems like she's finally trying to move on and find a new job AFTER she's kicked me to the curb.

I mean what the ****.
 

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betheman said:
you feel beat up because you have been outplayed,

i hear ya, i think another way of putting it is, he forgot the game was going on! don't forget, the game never ends. :kick:
 

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My mind keeps trying to come up with excuses to see her. Like I'll drop in at her work to "get a coffee" or text her saying I miss her kid or something. Gah.
 

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you shouldnt be contacting her...especially texting.
 

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Time man. It's just gonna take time. And no contact. Every bit of contact just prolongs the agony. Sorry.
 
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