Impossible to date women in their 30s, what a drag...

[CornbreadFed]

No offense, but if you struggle dating as an older man, you more than likely failed to mature past your twenties and failed to progress financially. No woman is looking to experience a teenage dream car sex experience/Chilis date with a boring & broke 30 plus year old man. My advice, you need to take a break from women and figure out your life and start setting some priorities. You don’t need to be making over 100k, but you do need some valid hobbies and attractive qualities about yourself.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

These mid 30s bitches looking for comfort and retirement. Some hitting a 2nd hoe phase. Its a jungle out here. They being passed around

Yeah it looks like they play degen on derivates in their 20s then decide to buy bonds in their 30s.

From my own experience, women in their 30s all lack badly the factor of "fun"

What do I mean by "fun"?

It simply means no to very little drama, demands, tantrum... etc... you name it, stuff that is normally associated with women in their 30s or late 20s.

On the contrary, younger chicks (mid 20s and earlier) tend to be the opposite: They are more wild, casual, and spontaneous.

And, the worst kind of women in their 30s are the ones looking to settle down (aka "I'm looking for a marriage") after riding the c0ck-carousel for at least a decade. They bring up the topic of "marriage" onto the table on the 1st date like a bargain card, which is the ultimate act of being not fun.

Totally agree, I find the same to be true.

It reminds me when we were kids and our grandma told us that if we wanted to play outside we first had to do our homeworks.

Also that serious talking already from date 1, reminds me a girl I had a date with that spent the whole first date complaining about some other guy that bought her a ring but then didnt marry her...still no clue whatever she expected from me beside cutting the date short and leave.

No offense, but if you struggle dating as an older man, you more than likely failed to mature past your twenties and failed to progress financially. No woman is looking to experience a teenage dream car sex experience/Chilis date with a boring & broke 30 plus year old man. My advice, you need to take a break from women and figure out your life and start setting some priorities. You don’t need to be making over 100k, but you do need some valid hobbies and attractive qualities about yourself.

Ofc since a man disagree with their demands and have his own standard its because he is not mature and poor.

Maybe you wanna add insecure too just to complete the list?

 

[CornbreadFed]

Ofc since a man disagree with their demands and have his own standard its because he is not mature and poor.

Maybe you wanna add insecure too just to complete the list?

Your whole OP sums up my point. You can only offer a woman shvt a College/HS boy can. The issue is women in their late twenties and beyond do not want to have sex in your dad's hand me down F150 or deal with bad boy energy anymore and women in their twenties can just date a guy in his twenties if they want that. You can hide behind the Leo Cap cope pill train all you want, but the harsh reality is that you offer little value to women right now.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Bro they cant even stay in their half of the bed despite their best promises.

Do you really think they wont try to get more on the way despite you made it clear?

By "asking" I mean demanding but in a polite way.

Why would you want them to? The closer they are to me, the sooner their hand finds it way down to my throbbing hard c0ck and the sooner it ends up in their mouth.

 

[Solomon]

She has her own life and lost a great deal of bonding or adapting abilities, she wants you to be added to her life not build something new together.

Those type of women you need to stay away from, they will always try to be in control of the relationship and treat you as a trinket I've been using the term "Plug-N-Play-Boyfriend" it means just like OP said they plug you in their life to play typically at weddings, social gatherings etc it's the female version of a trophy. Women are more status-driven then men believe it or not. No woman wants to be the one without a husband or a date at the wedding. They know that's frowned upon and makes them look like a loser even in 2023

I had a buddy who was in a relationship with a woman like this, she always prioritized her social life and friends over the relationship, unless you lead in the relationship and have frame you will always be 2nd fiddle. I find the best type of women to date in their 30s are the ones who are chill and just wanna have fun

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Those type of women you need to stay away from, they will always try to be in control of the relationship and treat you as a trinket I've been using the term "Plug-N-Play-Boyfriend" it means just like OP said they plug you in their life to play typically at weddings, social gatherings etc it's the female version of a trophy. Women are more status-driven then men believe it or not. No woman wants to be the one without a husband or a date at the wedding. They know that's frowned upon and makes them look like a loser even in 2023

I had a buddy who was in a relationship with a woman like this, she always prioritized her social life and friends over the relationship, unless you lead in the relationship and have frame you will always be 2nd fiddle. I find the best type of women to date in their 30s are the ones who are chill and just wanna have fun

So much truth in the those lines, they are obsessed about the status that comes from having a worthy man as partner to parade around.

Deep down they know it themselves that they could be a successful CEO but still considered low status if alone and without a committed worthy man.

There is also the social pressure which is much stronger on women then men, being them very group oriented.

Women that are chill when their bio clock is ticking are really hard to find and most that are, happen to be in a relationship or with kids already.

Why would you want them to? The closer they are to me, the sooner their hand finds it way down to my throbbing hard c0ck and the sooner it ends up in their mouth.

I understand your point of view but my life is kinda harsh, sometime I just wanna be left alone especially when sleeping.
As an introvert, social interaction even within intimacy require energy and are draining especially when you're already exhausted.

Your whole OP sums up my point. You can only offer a woman shvt a College/HS boy can. The issue is women in their late twenties and beyond do not want to have sex in your dad's hand me down F150 or deal with bad boy energy anymore and women in their twenties can just date a guy in his twenties if they want that. You can hide behind the Leo Cap cope pill train all you want, but the harsh reality is that you offer little value to women right now.

You're totally wrong in the money thing as much as the housing one that you mentioned in the first post.

I'm one of the few millennial that doesnt need to check the price of food while at the supermarket as much as I can dine out anytime I want.
I have no problem at all to buy dinners to dates or friends when I'm having a pleasant evening.
Not only I'm totally safe in my finance but I know how to improve them even more.
My current place is nice and clean and women can stay for the night anytime they want, the issue is when they decide to move stuff or change something or worse yet play husband-wife with my time.

The only thing you're right is that lack of desire to commit, in that case yeah I offer no value to women craving the validation and the status of a committed relationship just like Solomon mentioned above.

But again I have no plan or desire to commit especially to a woman that is no fun, no spontaneity and basically wants a direct negotiation between intimacy and security...thanks but no thanks.

Dealing with them is simply unpleasant even if there was no request to commit asap.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I prefer Danger Mouse.
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What exactly do you mean with 'poor mans', I think I look better than Moshe.
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Dude why do you have that eye patch on OVER the shades? That makes no sense, it's more of a fashion accessory than anything practical.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Haha, I cannot get the attention of fit, attractive 50-year-olds - but women that are 40 sure do pay attention, why? I have my theories, but frankly, it doesn't matter because there are more hot gals that are 40 than there are at 50, and I'm doing just fine...

 

[MatureDJ]

When I was in my 30’s it was the same struggle for me with women in their 30’s, and it racked my brain then too. Today I am in my 40’s and the women in their 30’s give me little resistance like they once did.

I believe it is because of maturity, and a naturally stronger sense of who I am. And like I have posted at this forum several time before, you are not a grown “Man” until about 35 years old. Today I am a man and women of all ages know it.

When women say they want a man, that is just it, you are not a man in your 20’s, you are just a young man or a fully grown up boy. A grown mature man knows how to hold his own court, and women can sense it.

So the solution I found while in my 30’s was to date women in their 20’s, 40-50’s. Literally skipping the babes in their 30’s. I used to think it is too bad that dating apps do not allow age specifications like that.

I like the idea of dating women half my age. I've been doing this since my late 30s.

 

[SW15]

I had a buddy who was in a relationship with a woman like this, she always prioritized her social life and friends over the relationship, unless you lead in the relationship and have frame you will always be 2nd fiddle.

This is not something unique to women in their 30s. I have seen this sort of behavior from women in their 20s as well.

I'm 37 and I tried to date early 30s women a few times: they are difficult to deal with, they want children, they are damaged emotionally, and they show signs of aging. I don't find them attractive, there are some exceptions of course. I stick to young girls (up to 26-27 but ideally 18-22).

I find the best type of women to date in their 30s are the ones who are chill and just wanna have fun

The most difficult thing about dating childless women in their 30s is that they often have an accelerated timeline for wanting children. If a man starts a relationship with a woman who is 20-25, he's likely to get 5+ years in a relationship of childless time. Good luck having a 5+ year long relationship without children if you start dating a woman who is 30-35.

The emotional damage and signs of aging are also downsides of dating women in their 30s, but can be managed more so than a woman with a raging biological clock in her 30s.

Single moms in their 30s have less of a raging biological clock but they already had their 1-2 kids with some other guy. A man that gets into an LTR/marriage with a single mom in her 30s is a cuckold.

If a man gets with a single mom who is 30-39 years old, he's going to likely have to deal with her kids living at home until she's 45-50. Her kids typically aren't turning 18 until then. Additionally, most 18 year olds aren't entirely independent and it's very possible that from ages 18-25, her kids will again live at home. Her kids will be a pretty big factor in her life for a long time.

I am more understanding of single fathers getting with single mothers than I am of childless men starting committed relationships with single moms.

This is why I agree with @Solomon . I have also found that the best type of 30 something woman to date is one who is chill, wants to have fun, and isn't beholden to a raging biological clock. These women are the best fits for a large portion of 30+ childless men.

 

[Gamisch]

The problem imo is that we men have completely wrong expectations and thus ending up disappointed every time. Easiest way to explain this is we project out lil Disney dreams on women and life.

Women are not that much fun to be around. Every man who knows his stuff acn confirm this. At best they are goofy and "spontaneously childish " ,but even that gets old real quick, and repetitive when you've encountered it multiple times from different women. And it smoking mirrors most of the time (think as in the clown /comedian whose mostly depressed )

A 30 y.o woman has literally lived 5 different lives. Heck, I'd say a 28 year old one already been there. By the time she's 30 she's already broken. The problem is that when a man fails to recognize that she's broken she'll lose respect for him due to his " inexperience ". So for a man who wants a girlfriend from this age it a losing battle by default..

+1. This is the whole point of romantic relationships.

The older men get, the more they want the relationship to be about love and desire.
The older women get, the more they want the relationship to be transactional.

Absolutely. So that's +2

That's why IMO we as men MUST learn to play the game our "opponent " plays. You can't play checkers when your opponent plays chess.

Men must make relationship transitional instead of emotional. Its idiotic to be older than 30 and still believe in fairytales. The latter is my biggest isseu with men who desperately chase their d1ck after 30 /around 40 looking to get married (!!!???) even with foreign women from 3rd world shyteholes(!!!???) so they can get childern and pay SOME form of child suppo" untill their 70,s(!!!!!!???????)

Remember Drago? (From Rocky, "if he dies he dies"). This man is now 62, and has or had a 25 year old gf...a woman that would ignore "y'all " desperate men in every way possible.

 

[The Duke]

we as men MUST learn to play the game our "opponent " plays. You can't play checkers when your opponent plays chess.

Ive said it many times, when a man starts to approach his dating life like a woman does he will become successful. And he will win every time. Their need for validation blinds them to their own weakness. Just like a man's sex drive causes him to be vulnerable.

 

[DreamAgain]

Your whole OP sums up my point. You can only offer a woman shvt a College/HS boy can. The issue is women in their late twenties and beyond do not want to have sex in your dad's hand me down F150 or deal with bad boy energy anymore and women in their twenties can just date a guy in his twenties if they want that. You can hide behind the Leo Cap cope pill train all you want, but the harsh reality is that you offer little value to women right now.

The only loser here is you captain keyboard jockey.

You completely misunderstood the opening post, erected a straw man, and began your ad hominem crusade.

 

[SW15]

the worst kind of women in their 30s are the ones looking to settle down (aka "I'm looking for a marriage") after riding the c0ck-carousel for at least a decade. They bring up the topic of "marriage" onto the table on the 1st date like a bargain card, which is the ultimate act of being not fun.

I agree with you on how bad these women are. There is no fun in dating a childless, 30 something who fervently wants kids.

 

[Bingo-Player]

After moving to Australia and starting a new life I ran into a group of 30 something chicks they kind of welcomed me in to their social group which I was grateful for because I didnt know anyone here at that stage

I have become relatively friendly with them now , I have very little sexual interest in any of them but its kind of fascinating watching their dating dynamics

They are all still sleeping around like they are in their 20's one of them I am particularly friendly with turned 34 yesterday she was telling me how she has been sleeping with a 24 year old guy

On then on the other hand she's asking me for advice on how to find a decent man that will settle down with her

Another one is slightly narcissistic , im not really sure about her but she tries to flirt with me at times she can't seem to find a " decent man" for love nor money either

Like I said I have very little interest in them sexually and I probably wouldn't want to date any of them either because I can tell they are all ran through

Socially they are kind of fun , but yea in general I don't date women after about 27

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

I have no idea what is your experience but mine is far from being pleasant.

The looks issue and the "wall" talk comes often in this forum but there is something more that we often miss altough it's as important.

A woman that age basically has twice the life experiences (positive ones and negative ones) of a man of that same age.

She has her own life and lost a great deal of bonding or adapting abilities, she wants you to be added to her life not build something new together.

Also they are in a rush to settle, there is no fun or messing around...they want their serious relationship and they want it now.

You get all the sex you want, anytime you ask and sometime it's even offered on the spot with no soliciting but looks more of a negotiation or a perk rather than a genuine desire, I would say a currency exchange.

The price you have to pay is being sucked into her reality, you have to meet her friends to validate her, you have to meet her family to let her show that she managed to get a man to commit.

The time span between the first drink and the first afternoon at ikea is an eye beat if you can't resist their pressure.

Also thei higher their social position and income, the higher the economical burden on you.

Btw good fkn luck to you if you want to slow things down or ask for more space.

You nailed it. Older women are basically just bitchy

Older women are more negative, but also more confident in their womanly delusions.

The majority of the protesters at abortion rallies are old, infertile hags

But game still works to keep them in check

Challenge them on their bull**** always. Let them know that you are strident in your beliefs and that she can leave if she doesn't like them

A man's judgement is his strongest weapon with women.

Older woman try to steal judgement from us. "Fat is ok!", "Sluts are great!"

Silly women, judgement is for men. We set the standards

Problem is, most men now days are weak, so standards are nothing

But it will stand to set you apart, being a man that has standards. You aren't a thirsty simp. You're a fvcking boss that picks and chooses

Think it long enough and you will become it