I'm starting to come to the conclusion that girls don't like muscles

[bukowski_merit]

Anyone who has muscles and isn't getting complimented by women - - - isn't fvcking enough of them.

"In bed" is traditionally when the compliments fly.

 

[Zion]

Do you even realize how stupid it is to say:

Girls like this.
or
Girls like that.

Do you ?

You simply cannot generalize something like this !

It's like saying:
"Oh man , I'm starting to think girls don't like rap.Is rap out and DnB in"

Also , what the fvck does 'muscles' mean ? Because being a grotesque rhino-like man is not fvcking attractive. At all. Being aesthetic on the other hand , how can you possibly even think that they do not like that ? What thought process undergoes in your head to think that a girl will be literally more turned on by a guy with a skinny-ass stickman figure rather than a aesthetic one ?

Do you think that while she fvckes you , in her mind she's like:
"Oh man I hate this perfect 6pack this guy has. I wish he was a skinny hipster so I could see his spine through his stomach ."

On the same note , she probably doesnt want your hand to be twice the size of her entire upper body.

She simply likes a man that looks like a man is biologically supposed to look like. Not a fatass,not animal , not a skinny wimp.

To make an analogy , think of tits. Some guys prefer smaller ones , others prefer bigger ones. But EVERYONE loves the perfect medium size aesthetic ones.

But to simply ask if 'muscles are out and skinny hipsters are in' is to ask 'do men like women with absolutely flat chests now' ? NO. Your biologic hardwiring does not change like that.

Same **** with music. Everyone loves music. Some like rap , some like jazz and so on. But again , everyone loves the all-time 'classics'


Common sense ! Try it sometimes.

 

[Hydrak]

Lol some people here are skinny like twigs. 6'1 and 180 lbs, yet you think you're big as fuark? A girl prefers a strong guy, no doubt. But going from skinny->strong doesnt do THAT much to up your game unless you got skills. I went from 6'3 145 lbs to 230 then back to 210. People gets intimidated by you, because most youth are skinny little rats who might have a 6pack under that shirt, but look weak over it. And how often do you go around shirtless outside? The bish wont know you have developed abs unless your white tshirt gets soaked.

I had a skinny looking fitness look at 170 lbs with a 8pack, but no one recognized it because it was still only 170 lbs all in all. Now when I went above 200 people actually noticed I was muscular.

Moral of the story: you can have as much muscle as you want, but when you are 5'11 and 150 lbs you will still look like a shrimp. Sadly, when I was 230 lbs girls started getting scared of me. So dont be too bulky, or too skinny.

 

[plate's_empty]

There's a guy at my gym that's pretty big and ripped, he's most likely on steroids. He's just a little too big for his frame. It doesn't look right. Also, he doesn't talk to anybody, never seen him smile. Helped spot him once, didn't say thanks, acted like I should have been thankful to be able to help him. Every once in a while he'll be in the lockeroom posing in front of the mirror in his underwear. Total douche.

If I ever saw this guy with a girl I'd be very surprised.

The right physique can definitely compliment you but it's not going to be your end all answer to getting girls. You still need to have some type of personality, and game always helps.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Muscles + being ripped = WILL 100% guarantee attention from broads.

Anyone saying otherwise is sadly mistaken. Where did the whole personality bs come from? Lmao.

You have to be deluded to think you, as someone being skinny or whatever, can compete with someone who is built and fit. When you are fit and built, you can get away with A LOT of things that you normally wouldn't be able to. They range from telling the fat c0ckblocking friend that she is obese and her running away upset and then taking the hot friend to bypassing coat check because the girl in charge thinks you are hot. Any comment you may think of it to be insulting can be made if you have the right physique. Why? Because the girl will simply have to deal with it, since she thinks you are hot.

@Hydrak: For once you are right. 215-230 with low bodyfat would be the ultimate build. It looks way better than looking small (180).

 

[Caravaggio]

Chicks universally cream themselves for confidence. Muscles don't give you confidence, just a high a protein diet.

I dig my work out but my game is based on enjoying my universe and inviting her in.

Switch it up and read a book.

 

[Neon Owl]

Anyone that says muscles don't do anything for you when it comes to attracting women has obviously never had a decent amount of muscle.

Get yourself some big shoulders, a wide back, big arms with a low enough bodyfat to see your abs and you will notice women checking you out wherever you go. Some will stare openly while others will whisper to their friends and wait until you walk past them to turn and eye-fvck you as you walk away.
Last summer I was walking home after the gym with my top off and noticed a car waiting to pull out of the road just ahead of me. In the passenger seat was a girl who just STARED at me literally open mouthed as I waked towards the car lol I assume it's a similar expression I'd have if a girl was walking towards me with her top off and her EE breasts swinging from side to side.

Yea you might have good success with women with your scrawny build you have now but you WILL have more success if you work out and get a solid looking physique.

 

[SirFratserlot]

I'm 200 lbs of lean muscle with a six pack and the only attention I get are from guys. At my college, the skinny guys or fat phvcks get all the girls.

 

[Neon Owl]

I'm 200 lbs of lean muscle with a six pack and the only attention I get are from guys. At my college, the skinny guys or fat phvcks get all the girls.

Then you either dress like a homeless person, have the face of the elephant man or are completely socially inept...

 

[floydb25]

I wish people would stop generalizing and making up excuses based on their own personal failures, and what they want to see as a result of that. Notice how it's never THEM at fault, but is always in relation to them; their traits, and (of course) their failures.

I'm muscular. Girls don't like me. Girls don't like muscular guys.

I'm brown / black. Girls don't like me. Girls don't like brown / black guys.

I'm nice. Girls don't like me. Girls don't like nice people.

On and on... with people contradicting themselves and others constantly. One guy is skinny; the other is muscular. They both claim girls don't want what they have (and therefore don't like them, for this reason alone - since it can't possibly be anything else), and obviously prefer the opposite... When the opposite is saying the same thing about the other guy! Then you have other guys on the other side saying that, everything they thought was wrong, and girls do, in fact, like nice / brown / black / white / blonde / mixed / short / tall / bald / unattractive / lgood-looking / long-haired / short-haired / dyed-haired / shy / insecure / good-hearted / mean / selfish / rebelious guys, because their friend, or some random stranger they saw with these traits, is with a hottie. Oh, the confusion and mayhem!

Just STFU already. Stop making up excuses and being so simple-minded. If you didn't suck so much, and weren't failing, none of this would be happening. That's why successful "muscular" guys aren't complaining, because they don't suck, and therefore don't generalize, or see only what they want to see - based on their personal failures.

But notice how it can't be only THEM who are failing. Oh, no; it's everyone with the same traits.

Just understand that you suck, and these rediculous notions and excuses will be eliminated. Using the above examples, here's what you SHOULD be saying instead:

I suck. Girls don't like me. Girls don't like people who suck.

I suck. Girls don't like me. Girls don't like people who suck.

And so forth. Replace every shallow trait / generalization with "I suck", and this will all go away.

With love,
:moon:

 

[Zarky]

Do you even realize how stupid it is to say:

Girls like this.
or
Girls like that.

Do you ?

You simply cannot generalize something like this !

Finally some rationality.

I think that you can't go wrong with "toned." I think you want to stay away from both "skinny" and "bulky."

Most women aren't really interested in your body good or bad unless it's way out of the ordinary.

 

[foreverAFC]

a lot of women seem to be attracted to that Mick Jagger type of body, guys who are skinny and lanky and cut seem to attract a decent amount of women.

 

[SirFratserlot]

Then you either dress like a homeless person, have the face of the elephant man or are completely socially inept...

Nope, Im just black

 

[foreverAFC]

Nope, Im just black

do you feel that being black holds you back from getting women?

 

[foreverAFC]

Interesting, Bodybuilding.com had a poll about this - asking people whether their goal was the Ambercrombie model look or the traditional bodybuilder look - 62% said they were going for the Ambercrombie look:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115746241&page=1

the abercrombie look is way more achievable though, to look like an actual bodybuilder you need lots of supplements, steroids, and tons of extra foods to keep yourself in that kind of shape, most regular people can achieve the slimmer cut look naturally and easier so i think that may have a lot to do with it

 

[JohnChops]

jesus christ stop lifting for women and do it for yourself. you're all idiots if you're just in the gym to attract women with your "aesthetics" . Aesthetics is a term skinny kids made up so they dont have to obtain muscle mass. You all get that crap from Zyzz, but he was actually big. 206 lbs, 6 foot tall and about 7% BF. Thats not aesthetic thats muscular definition. Stop worrying about what women think of you anyway. You all think to much about what the opposite sex cares about you and then you do things that would fly in their head. "Oh she doesn't like muscle so ill jsut go to the gym, lift light weight and high reps and then ill be an abercrombie model yay!!!" No no no. Stop. Just stop. Run into a knife.

Get off this fvcking site. Get your ass to the gym. Lift some heavy fvcking weight. And build some muscle. Stop worrying about women, stop worrying about what they think, and just stop worrying about if you're "aesthetic" . Stop. Bye. LEAVE.

 

[foreverAFC]

jesus christ stop lifting for women and do it for yourself. you're all idiots if you're just in the gym to attract women with your "aesthetics" . Aesthetics is a term skinny kids made up so they dont have to obtain muscle mass. You all get that crap from Zyzz, but he was actually big. 206 lbs, 6 foot tall and about 7% BF. Thats not aesthetic thats muscular definition. Stop worrying about what women think of you anyway. You all think to much about what the opposite sex cares about you and then you do things that would fly in their head. "Oh she doesn't like muscle so ill jsut go to the gym, lift light weight and high reps and then ill be an abercrombie model yay!!!" No no no. Stop. Just stop. Run into a knife.

Get off this fvcking site. Get your ass to the gym. Lift some heavy fvcking weight. And build some muscle. Stop worrying about women, stop worrying about what they think, and just stop worrying about if you're "aesthetic" . Stop. Bye. LEAVE.

most people couldnt even look like zyzz naturally, that guy was on a ton of gear, and he died at 22

 

[SirFratserlot]

do you feel that being black holds you back from getting women?

hell yeah because of my location

 

[Zarky]

jesus christ stop lifting for women and do it for yourself.
...
Stop worrying about what women think of you anyway.
...
Get off this fvcking site. Get your ass to the gym. Lift some heavy fvcking weight. And build some muscle.

If I'm truly not gonna care what people think about me then why in the world would I be building muscle? I'll simply do some light calesthenics for 15 minutes a day and eat a balanced diet. That's really all you need to do for general health.

"Body building" etc is utterly meaningless in an industrialized western society unless you're a lumberjack or a cop dealing with violent criminals or something.

I'm a white-collar professional. I sit in a chair and move data around to various clients and governmental entities over the internet all day. There's no practical point for me to have lots of muscle -- in fact it's a health detriment. The more body tissue you have (including muscle), the more your body needs to repair and maintain it. This takes energy. Why do you think your body reduces muscle if you don't use it? Because it's a waste of energy to keep it around.

So if truly nobody cared what people thought about them, 99% of the men in the first-world would never need to set foot in a gym. They could do 15 minutes of aerobics daily, eat a mediterranean or other balanced, nutritious diet, and that's it.

 

[Zion]

Kinda true what Zarky says.

I go to the gym because I enjoy it and it's a passion.However , I'd be lying not to acknowledge the good feel I get when I see girls staring at me on the beach.

I don't do it for that ,but I definitely enjoy it. Fruits of my labor,so to speak. So by enjoying it , I automatically 'care' what they think.

Not caring what people think about you means doing whatever the fvck you wanna do without feeling pressured by society - as long as it's something both productive and effective to your self growth.

I'm gonna explain the reasoning behind this with a quote:

"Obsessed is a word the weak use to describe the determined."
Haters gonna hate.Simple as that.

Hitting on a girl on the street for example. Don't give a sh!t about what the chump next to you thinks about it.Productive ? Yes. Effective ? Definitely. Good,do it.
So yeah,just because the typical chump can't do , he will try to bring you down so he can feel better about himself. That's just what people do. They will do whatever it takes to justify their own misery. Should you care what he thinks of you ? No , ofcourse not.

On the other hand,not showering for 30 days and growing a hobo beard ? Productive ? No. Effective ? No. If you lack the common sense to realize that's not good, you should probably listen to what 'people have to say about it'.

So yeah.'Not caring' is a tool meant to help self-improvement.But like every other thing in life , calibration is key. If you don't calibrate properly , it can become a tool of self-destruction.