I'm starting to come to the conclusion that girls don't like muscles

[nismo-4]

Women love men the most who are physically and or financially fit.

Women forgive an ugly face if there's muscles or money behind it.

Case closed.

 

[JohnChops]

new goal - get fvcking monster big, who cares about what a woman thinks.

 

[020204]

Muscle on an older guy probably more so as he has the maturity to not let it get to his head. Younger cats tend to get more of a head swell, and think it is the be all and end all of getting laid. I am sensing a lot of musclehead attitude on this forum, being the best you can be is great but remember there will always be someone bigger than, so I think it is a bit false to rely completely on having muscle or physique. I have heard it being said fashion sense came ahead of what kind of car a man drives.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Women love men the most who are physically and or financially fit.

Women forgive an ugly face if there's muscles or money behind it.

Case closed.

lol


Why is this even a matter of discussion, there are women who love big guys, and women who love skinny dudes... If you want to maximize your chance with women, go for Abercrombie look.... (see the success of the video call me maybe on youtube among women). This is basic stuff guys..

Also, what I see very often in the clubs is muscleheads alone... so be very aware of what you do with your body.

 

[zekko]

Why is this even a matter of discussion, there are women who love big guys, and women who love skinny dudes.

Muscles on guys are like boobs on a girl. Well, actually there is no male corollary to boobs, that's the truth, but bear with me. Some guys like big boobs, some guys like small perky boobs, some guys like huge areolas, some guys like huge pendulous boobs, while other guys are grossed out by them.

Some guys like a big booty, some like a smaller, firmer behind.
It's the same way with muscles. Some girls go for guys with the big muscles, some like a more trim profile, some don't care either way. The important thing either way is to be in shape, although I even know some girls who like fat guys.

 

[csycpr]

Muscles on guys are like boobs on a girl. Well, actually there is no male corollary to boobs, that's the truth, but bear with me. Some guys like big boobs, some guys like small perky boobs, some guys like huge areolas, some guys like huge pendulous boobs, while other guys are grossed out by them.

Some guys like a big booty, some like a smaller, firmer behind.
It's the same way with muscles. Some girls go for guys with the big muscles, some like a more trim profile, some don't care either way. The important thing either way is to be in shape, although I even know some girls who like fat guys.

I agree there are all sorts of various tastes out there. But all in all I think muscle and leanness is highly desirable. I wasn't going to share this story because it sounds too perfect, but I was out on an easy weekday evening with my cousin who has a male fitness model physique. Heck, it's even better than that, with respect to muscle size -- he just hasn't got the perfect sixpack, but through his shirt it sure looks like he would. Well, about four girls just that night -- pretty hot babes each one -- felt up his muscles on his arms and made positive remarks about them. Now, this dude is incredibly good looking even without the muscles, so maybe the muscles were just an excuse for the girls to feel him up, but still.

The problem is I can't hang out with a guy like that, even though he gets enormous amounts of female attention. Even if I got something out of it (and the girls are always pleased to meet me), it's like I'm playing second fiddle all night and he's so confident that I just feel totally outclassed and intimidated (in fact, it pisses me off, because confident or not, some of the things that come out of his mouth just sound like total freakin BS and I can't believe chicks lap it up... and yet they do).

The point is, those guys who think a high quality physique doesn't matter are seriously deluding themselves. It may not be the be all and end all but it sure as hell makes a positive difference. (By which I mean if you haven't got one it's hardly the end of the world, but if you have, fcck me do girls notice it.)

 

[crossedup]

The problem is I can't hang out with a guy like that, even though he gets enormous amounts of female attention. Even if I got something out of it (and the girls are always pleased to meet me), it's like I'm playing second fiddle all night and he's so confident that I just feel totally outclassed and intimidated (in fact, it pisses me off, because confident or not, some of the things that come out of his mouth just sound like total freakin BS and I can't believe chicks lap it up... and yet they do).

What I've noticed is that guys who look like models with nearly a perfect physique can get away with murder. They can do anything they want because of how they look. 99.9% of guys cannot do this.

I have a friend who is the same way, he'll literally ask girls to show him their tits and they'll pull them out. He once shouted to a random hot girl, "I would bone you!" and ended up boning her. He's actually really creepy the way he acts around them, but he has no idea. It's hilarious, and he calls it game. The guys ego is out of control. I'm not gonna lie, I get pretty jealous.

 

[020204]

I am pretty ripped, I do find that with a spraytan and wearing the right clothes does get more attention. By fitness model do you mean 7-9%Bf, with aesethic physique and not too much mass? You really shouldn't be holding your cousin in as much awe as you are, sure if you are overweight or really skinny it may seem a little overwhelming, honestly your cousin is probably exuding a great deal of confidence.

 

[csycpr]

He's over 10%, probably 11%. You can see easy outlines, but it's far from what I'd call full on rippage. He's got a very aesthetic physique but, imo, slightly more mass than the average fitness model (although I could be wrong about this). I really can't help but be in awe of him. He's extremely confident, a seriously good looking s.o.b and a pretty good conversationalist. But he has a tendency to say some seriously stupid shtt from time to time and this tends to really get under my skin cos the chicks don't appear to mind at all. I feel like if I said anything like that I'd be dead in the water. For example (and this is just the most recent, and only one of MANY), somehow the topic of underwear came up and he said something about the shtt stains on the girl's knickers (hardly connected to the topic, even), and the girl sort of laughed half-heartedly to go along with it, but appeared to get over within seconds, as soon as the subject changed. But he'll say dumb shtt like that many times in the one conversation and yet still he gets the digits or even makes out right there.

But that's just a slight imperfection that I focus on as a way to protect my ego (I tell myself I'm much smarter than he is, which is true), otherwise I'd have to admit I have no hope against him whatsoever. Any time we're together the chicks will put all their attention on him and laugh at nearly everything he says (except the seriously dumb shtt which, as I said, they just brush off) while hardly paying any attention at all to what I say, and I'm not even that far off him in facial looks. I really wouldn't mind it if he got the girl anyway but I had a fairer split of the attention, but it's so lopsided I can't help feeling like a total loser.

 

[SSAD.MORGAN]

Guys should definitely be working out and putting on muscle but it has to be lean muscle. Don't be the guy who is big but has no definition and is just "round" everywhere. Get a solid, functional build (think ryan reynolds in blade or bale in batman) where you have some size but actually look defined. Like the previous poster said get a nice fitting shirt you can wear out and you will get looks. Girls will be more approachable. After I started working out doors opened a lot easier, but muscles aren't the be all end all. Too many guys work on that and don't improve anything else in their lives, you still need to have a personality when people talk to you. And for the love of god work your legs out too if you do. See way too many guys with big upper bodies and the legs of 12 year old girls

 

[020204]

If anyone has ever scene aesethics crew, none of those guys trained legs, I really can't see how they could call themselves aesethic. A lot of being muscular is about the aura or presence you give off. A little ripped guy who has really good strength to weight ratio, like some of the lighter weight classes in weight lifting, can exude the same if not more appeal than much larger men. Don't rely on getting big before getting strong? Don't be one of these guys which is all show and no go.

 

[The Gambler]

A complex question, this is.

Women know that a "ripped" guy invests quite a bit of time at the weight bench. As a potential distraction from a relationship, might this turn off some women? Of course. Other women might tell the same guy to hit the bench more and work twice as hard! You never know.

Does a physically fit person exude more confidence than a person who is grossly out of shape? Usually. Since confidence is a huge turn-on for most women, I guess we can say that muscles and confidence (and many women) are going to go hand-and-hand. I do firmly believe that the guy with the average body and Abercrombie look has an equal shot with the ladies.

You will never see a poll where EVERY woman likes the same thing. The point should be that you need to work towards mastering the path YOU choose. No work you do on yourself, mentally or physically, is a waste of time.

The Gambler

 

[020204]

I think your ascertion is bang on Gambler. The Abercombe look is usually 6-9% Bf, and is somewhere between bodybuilder and athletic, so it is basically a normal sized guy with proportionate muscle. I can guarantee you that a girl in a crop top will get far more attention than a buff dude with a tshirt, despite what marketers would have you think. The kind of attention she will get would be cat calls or instant bangs if she wanted.

 

[Down Low]

I helped a woman friend's mom move today. More chiefs than indians showed up to help out with the moving. I caught some mild disrespect, but blew it off. Then I carried some pieces of furniture alone that definitely required two men. And again. And again. Got major respect from the young dudes hanging out next door. Impressed the woman that I "would grow muscles" but I turned it around that "hey, I had to already be strong to do that." Definitely impressed her friends that my age was "still young." The guy who was "bigger than me" and quite young, didn't do half the work I did, and did so with the help of a Mexican hired outside Home Depot.

So who to fvck do you think got invited to dinner? Damn right!

 

[Falfa]

It's not really so much appearance rather than the qualities that having a good body and being physically powerful imbue in a person.

Muscularity is something men respect primarily. I doubt that most women are even capable of gauging somebody's strength simply by looking at him simply because women don't make war in the physical realm.

Because guys are prone to respect and coalesce around strong, jock-type dudes (think high school), there is greater likelihood that the muscular man becomes alpha in one group or another.

Being muscular also greatly helps your appearance, which will increase confidence and thus allow you to behave like a person with a strong sense of self-esteem.

 

[MikeOck]

The ideal body type for a man is "athletic", it appeals to the most amount of women. Some prefer skinny, some prefer muscular, some even prefer fat, but the majority just want a guy who is in decent shape. Too extreme in any direction will limit your options.

 

[Professor Booty]

Interesting, Bodybuilding.com had a poll about this - asking people whether their goal was the Ambercrombie model look or the traditional bodybuilder look - 62% said they were going for the Ambercrombie look:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115746241&page=1

 

[foreverAFC]

Hi, i am new to the site but i have been lurking here for a while. I thought maybe i could share my experience here as my first post.

I am pretty socially awkward, and i am also pretty introverted so ive always been a bit of a loner. because i never had much of a social life i spent a lot of my free time working out in the gym and practicing different martial arts in order to keep myself busy. after a decade of training very hard, i have a very noticeable appearance, i am very lean but muscular at the same time, and i have noticeable cauliflower ears. before training i looked like steve urkel, and women never even knew i existed.

what i notice is that not only do most women notice me immediately when i walk into a room or when they see me, but they almost always try to hide it. in fact some of them go very far out of their way to make sure that they are not noticing me. i used to think these women were completely repulsed by me until i noticed some of them cracking a smile on accident every now and then. my problem is putting them at ease, when they start acting weird and their guards come up i get annoyed real fast because i deal with this behavior all day long. and i get it just as much from the men too. the men at work are all very weak and sit in cubicles all day and dont take care of themselves, they feel very threatened by me despite the fact that i try to be polite to everyone. most men will refuse to look me in the eyes, they will look at the floor and refuse to look up until they have passed me. and the saddest part is that im only 5'10 and 155lbs, isnt that pathetic? i think this has a lot to do with the obesity epidemic in our country, slender guys like me who in the 70s and 80s would have looked like twigs are looking like adonis and greek statues compared to these sof bodies people who dont take care of themselves.

however, its a bit different if i go to a nightclub or bar, which i havent done for years. but in places outside of work were people were specifically there to meet other people, i find women to be more aggressive and will not have a problem staring or approaching.

also i will be the first to say that being in shape wont really get you women if you cant talk to them. being an introvert its very hard for me to make friends and talk to females.

 

[SeymourCake]

This girl who I used to talk to in high school is supposedly dating "a gym trainer" now. He's pretty buff from what I can see. This thread is bullsh!t.

 

[Roosevelt]

Its depend on the person who are seeing you. It also depend on from girl to girl what they like or not.