Im not so convinced of this "your life gets better after your 30s"

[bigneil]

"Didn't score in high school" is going a little far, but you're right, the sample here might be a little skewed. If a guy was massively successful at a young age, like the high school quarterback or a Van Wilder like you say, maybe they peaked when they were young. It would be hard to move up from that.

Being a woman, Olly is obsessed with high school and college days, back when (although she was never that hot) she could at least on occasion get used by Mexican bartenders.

The idea that men get better with age is killing her, so she tries to level the playing ground with one thread after another where she attempts to diminish the benefits men have as they age, while celebrating men who bartend in college.

For the record, I was a misfit, I didn't score in high school, and I underperformed in college, getting my first HB9 girlfriend at age 22 (she was 18).

I've never seen a plus 30 year old dating a girl younger than 24 despite how this site makes it seem like it is so common.

You've never seen a 6 year age difference? What are you talking about? I was doing that in the year 2001, and just about every year since including now. Want to see more photos?

Oh yeah, Olly has a second account called TrainWreck where she portends a consensus exists.

You know it's Olly because in her every deliberation it's about what she's personally seen.

 

[bigneil]

(see below - blue italics shows where Train Wreck is wrong - she's never seen any ideal couples in that range)

Half your Age Plus Seven - Ideal Age Pairings for Affairs

Man is : Woman is

18 16
20 17
22 18
24 19
26 20
28 21
30 22
31 22.5
32 23
33 23.5
34 24
36 25
38 26
40 27 (the age when men and women are no longer considered young)
42 28 (at 42 my girl was 19)
44 29 (at 44 my girl was 20)
46 30 (at 46 my girl is 21)

 

[wifehunter]

There's no guarantee. ...sh1t could hit the fan tommorow!

Just be content with things, now.

 

[bigneil]

banging the hot 19 yrs old chick its always great but its greater when you are 21.

You're 31. I was dating a 19 year old when I was 41. Trust me, it is better when you are 41.

Oh yeah, I had sex with a 19 year old girl (and literally spent less than $10 on that date) when I was 46 (last November). I was in a state of suspended disbelief - that's how good it was.

 

[bigneil]

I asked the 19 year old girl last November "Am I the oldest guy you ever had sex with?" and she said "How old are you?.... do you really want to be oldest?"

I took that as a no. I remember when I was 30 dating a girl who was 18 and she had a sugar daddy and she said "We do things for him..." and she caught herself. At the time it was too painful to accept but that's the way of the world. As men, this is to our advantage. We can simply work harder, acquire more resources and pay for the difference. Women can't do that.

 

[bigneil]

Except for one GF, I haven't been on a date with a 24+ year old in 6 years(when I was 24).

When I was, my youngest lover was:

18 16
22 18
27 17
28 17
31 18
35 18
41 19
44 20
46 20

At this rate, by the time I'm dating a 24 year old, I'll be 74.

Now consider: I've slept with about 38 women, born in about 30 different years, between 1955 and 1997. NOT ONE was born the same year as me, or one year after. I never slept with a girl my own age!

 

[ThisNThat]

You are absolutely correct in the above. I have always said that your 20s is all about self improvement. You need to set some goals, set a direction, and start working on them and yourself. If you have done this, then your 30s and 40s are a time when you reap the rewards of all that effort. Really, you reap them for the rest of your life.

Which is not to say you are laying back in your 30s and 40s, but by then you have usually built some sort of routine that works for you.

Another reason why you do better in your 30s and 40s is because you have more life experience. This helps you in a lot of ways, but guys here should be able to see how much this helps with women. Your 20s are the time when you make mistakes and learn from them. When you get older, you have learned, and should be able to easily avoid those mistakes.

There are things I miss about my 20s, make no mistake. My body was like a frigging Ferrari, it would seemingly respond instantly to what I wanted it to do. And there is the freshness and novelty of youth. I think you mentioned the high hormones, but those can get in your way sometimes. In any case, even though I'm now past my prime I wouldn't go back, I'm much happier now than I was then. I was fairly miserable when I was younger, I let myself think negatively too much, and I hadn't learned how to be happy yet.

But see, then are those who are "starting over" at 40-ish. These are where divorces are occurring after 20-something years later. Going back to college in your 40s, getting a new career path in your 40s and so on. So it's kind of wash-rinse-repeat for some people. A lot of people don't stay in their same career path throughout the rest of their lives. There's are alot of periods of starting over. At least one time.

 

[zekko]

A lot of people don't stay in their same career path throughout the rest of their lives. There's are alot of periods of starting over. At least one time.

You're right, but we're not talking solely about career here, but life overall.

If you do have to start your career over, hopefully it's part of a move to better yourself. Or if you have to start over, hopefully you don't get blindsided, and have a plan in place to deal with it, the resources to get through it, and don't make bad decisions.

 

[ThisNThat]

You're right, but we're not talking solely about career here, but life overall.

If you do have to start your career over, hopefully it's part of a move to better yourself. Or if you have to start over, hopefully you don't get blindsided, and have a plan in place to deal with it, the resources to get through it, and don't make bad decisions.

Yeah, just don't be one of those stay-at-home, over 40 single moms trying to make it big as a "Beachbody Coach" or Advocare distributor, Make-up distributor, ie, MLM schemes. lol

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

"Didn't score in high school" is going a little far, but you're right, the sample here might be a little skewed. If a guy was massively successful at a young age, like the high school quarterback or a Van Wilder like you say, maybe they peaked when they were young. It would be hard to move up from that.

Pretty much my point, it doesn't really get that good if you were the man in your younger days.

 

[bigneil]

Pretty much my point, it doesn't really get that good if you were the man in your younger days.

I agree. If you are Italian and you had a beard in 11th grade, and now you are bald at 26, then yes, your best days are before age 30 (but you have the entourage of high school girls who will still do you). Meanwhile, if you are Roger Moore in Spy Who Loved Me in 1977 at age 49, you rule.

 

[Trainwreck]

I agree. If you are Italian and you had a beard in 11th grade, and now you are bald at 26, then yes, your best days are before age 30 (but you have the entourage of high school girls who will still do you). Meanwhile, if you are Roger Moore in Spy Who Loved Me in 1977 at age 49, you rule.

In Bigneil's wet third world utopian dream, 50 year old men are dating 18 year olds in droves.

 

[Solomon]

This thread is great.....really don't have to add much yet I gotta contemplate on these points

I do strongly agree with cola's points though

 

[Urbanyst]

I am starting to think that it is all relative.

Sites like this attract guys who were misfits, didn't score in high school, under-performed in college, and weren't the Van Wilders or Stiflers of their youth. For those guys who worked hard in their 20s, it gets better in their 30s although I can't say how. Women start to pay attention to them but I don't know how rare Dan Bilzerians are.

I don't think that for guys like a Van Wilder or big man on campus types life will ever be that good again because they peaked in college and nothing really rivals peaking in college from what I see. Maybe being the man in a very young part of NYC could be just as good these days though so who knows!

What I do think is that there is a lot of overhype involved with the 30s.

Like so many claim it is a coming out party for late bloomers who can bang lots of hot women and have that social life they missed out on in college, their chance for redemption, but I doubt that. I just think they have more options than they did in their 20s and are finally getting more attention from women.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5479994

 

[skinnyguy]

I made a ton of bad decisions in my 20's and was hopeless with women. So for me, it can only get better from my 20's.

Now it's better in the sense that I have a lot more money. But I'm still not satisfied. I still know I have a long way to go socially. I've never had the social circle that I want.

As you get older you'll have to get used to resource extraction by women. If you're ok with being wealthy and banging women who see you as an ATM, you'll enjoy life. An example of this is marriage.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/04/090407-chimps-meat-sex.html

 

[zekko]

As you get older you'll have to get used to resource extraction by women. If you're ok with being wealthy and banging women who see you as an ATM, you'll enjoy life. An example of this is marriage.

I think ONE girl in my entire life borrowed $20 from me, and she paid it right back. I've paid for my share of dates, but I've been treated too. There's no need to become an ATM.

Pretty much my point, it doesn't really get that good if you were the man in your younger days.

Not sure if there's anyone here who had massive success as a young guy. Maybe some of the younger guys here can become that guy, and we can see how they do in their 30s. Problem is, they probably won't stick around.

In Bigneil's wet third world utopian dream, 50 year old men are dating 18 year olds in droves.

They're not, but it's certainly not uncommon for guys in their 30s and 40s to date girls in their 20s. When I met my girlfriend, I was 42 and she was 28. Not sure why anyone has to have an 18 year old, unless it's a fetish thing.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

I was going to create a thread for this but decided to just post it as a reply on here.

What really frustrates me about life after 30, or even 25, is that none of this will have as much value anymore. In college or high school if you slept with a hot girl, there was value attached to it. You could brag about it, showcase it, have other guys admire you for it, and get some serious status through doing it. After that, it just doesn't have that same value attached to it and I know @bigneil agrees with me there.

Say all you want about "not seeking validation" and "life is too important for that stuff now" but that is what boosted a player's ego, being acknowledged for his greatness in the game. I hate that after 30, avenues for that don't exist.

Even if I beast at 35, it is so unfulfilling, like being good at a sport at that age, FFS you're playing against aging old dudes.

It is just that being a DJ and playboy have no value attached to them at that age that they did in your teens and college years, or even your early 20s, they just aren't worthy of envy. I want other men to envy me and want to be me because of my success with women but that **** does not exist after 30 or even after 25. It is that magic to the game that is gone as you get older and that is what frustrates me.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I was going to create a thread for this but decided to just post it as a reply on here.

What really frustrates me about life after 30, or even 25, is that none of this will have as much value anymore. In college or high school if you slept with a hot girl, there was value attached to it. You could brag about it, showcase it, have other guys admire you for it, and get some serious status through doing it. After that, it just doesn't have that same value attached to it and I know @bigneil agrees with me there.

Say all you want about "not seeking validation" and "life is too important for that stuff now" but that is what boosted a player's ego, being acknowledged for his greatness in the game. I hate that after 30, avenues for that don't exist.

Even if I beast at 35, it is so unfulfilling, like being good at a sport at that age, FFS you're playing against aging old dudes.

It is just that being a DJ and playboy have no value attached to them at that age that they did in your teens and college years, or even your early 20s, they just aren't worthy of envy. I want other men to envy me and want to be me because of my success with women but that **** does not exist after 30 or even after 25. It is that magic to the game that is gone as you get older and that is what frustrates me.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/buud3p/stand-up-greg-behrendt--the-three--m-s

So then their must be other worthy causes for your life other than mmmm p u$s y.

Like what? Make money? Sure. But what's even the point of that when you think about it.

I think this is one of those things in life that there is no answer to.

 

[bigneil]

I was going to create a thread for this but decided to just post it as a reply on here.

What really frustrates me about life after 30, or even 25, is that none of this will have as much value anymore. In college or high school if you slept with a hot girl, there was value attached to it. You could brag about it, showcase it, have other guys admire you for it, and get some serious status through doing it. After that, it just doesn't have that same value attached to it... I want other men to envy me and want to be me because of my success with women but that **** does not exist after 30 or even after 25. It is that magic to the game that is gone as you get older and that is what frustrates me.

If you don't think men (and especially women) envy me when I show up at age 46 with the most gorgeous 21 year woman they've ever seen in their life (while observing that she's in love with me) you're crazy. The greater the age difference (for a given beauty), the more envious people are.