Im not so convinced of this "your life gets better after your 30s"

[btownbuck2012]

I was going to create a thread for this but decided to just post it as a reply on here.

What really frustrates me about life after 30, or even 25, is that none of this will have as much value anymore. In college or high school if you slept with a hot girl, there was value attached to it. You could brag about it, showcase it, have other guys admire you for it, and get some serious status through doing it. After that, it just doesn't have that same value attached to it and I know @bigneil agrees with me there.

Say all you want about "not seeking validation" and "life is too important for that stuff now" but that is what boosted a player's ego, being acknowledged for his greatness in the game. I hate that after 30, avenues for that don't exist.

Even if I beast at 35, it is so unfulfilling, like being good at a sport at that age, FFS you're playing against aging old dudes.

It is just that being a DJ and playboy have no value attached to them at that age that they did in your teens and college years, or even your early 20s, they just aren't worthy of envy. I want other men to envy me and want to be me because of my success with women but that **** does not exist after 30 or even after 25. It is that magic to the game that is gone as you get older and that is what frustrates me.

Your obsession with other people acknowledging you and validating your existence as opposed to actually experiencing a fulfilling life on your own terms and doing things for your own pleasure and satisfaction is really bizarre. You need to see a psychologist sooner than later.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Your obsession with other people acknowledging you and validating your existence as opposed to actually experiencing a fulfilling life on your own terms and doing things for your own pleasure and satisfaction is really bizarre. You need to see a psychologist sooner than later.

Well, it's rapidly becoming the norm today. Just look at the phenomena of Facebook... or don't. This phenomenon of constantly wanting to flee from ourselves was diagnosed in such thinkers as Heidegger. Dasein, that quality of being in the world, is terrified to stop and contemplate [with time] its finitude. His thought was the secularization of theological consciousness, yet all that seems sadly not even a memory today.

Literacy has to be more than being able to read Facebook. It has to be about being literate with the history of ideas. Lacking this, you'll have no inner critical space, and therefore no potential for self-realization.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Well, it's rapidly becoming the norm today. Just look at the phenomena of Facebook... or don't. This phenomenon of constantly wanting to flee from ourselves was diagnosed in such thinkers as Heidegger. Dasein, that quality of being in the world, is terrified to stop and contemplate its finitude. His thought was the secularization of theological consciousness, yet all that seems sadly not even a memory today.

Well it's sad because so many people aren't authentically living. Their confidence and self esteem is gained from such trivial non real things. What's worse is they take that false self confidence out into the world and project it in a way that's very damaging to other people and society as a whole. I mean look at how women act due to the inflated confidence they get from social media and the effects it has on people they deal with and over time themselves too. There's other examples but the one with women and social media was the easiest to think of right now

 

[Milano]

I was going to create a thread for this but decided to just post it as a reply on here.

What really frustrates me about life after 30, or even 25, is that none of this will have as much value anymore. In college or high school if you slept with a hot girl, there was value attached to it. You could brag about it, showcase it, have other guys admire you for it, and get some serious status through doing it. After that, it just doesn't have that same value attached to it and I know @bigneil agrees with me there.

Say all you want about "not seeking validation" and "life is too important for that stuff now" but that is what boosted a player's ego, being acknowledged for his greatness in the game. I hate that after 30, avenues for that don't exist.

Even if I beast at 35, it is so unfulfilling, like being good at a sport at that age, FFS you're playing against aging old dudes.

It is just that being a DJ and playboy have no value attached to them at that age that they did in your teens and college years, or even your early 20s, they just aren't worthy of envy. I want other men to envy me and want to be me because of my success with women but that **** does not exist after 30 or even after 25. It is that magic to the game that is gone as you get older and that is what frustrates me.

It is a frustrating life experience when we learn as men that when we desperately want and need women we cant get them. It doesnt work logically for us because if we work desperately hard in the gym or with a career it tends to give us great results.

Sure, most of us older members in here are late bloomers. I am for sure one of the worst cases, getting a single mom as my first girlfriend at 26 and being ripped to pieces about how the real world works. Fat young girls can litteraly sleep with and date genetically superior men simply blew my mind and still can. Proof is also on Tinder etc where you can read the requirements from ugly girls, its hysterical.

Still, life can go so many directions, and I chose to think about how most people tend to get good periods at different times in their lives and what kind of impact it has. Some have it easy in their early 20s, settle down with their dream girl, happy marriage and kids, great career. As a blue pill fag you think they are living the dream and you envy them. But you know whats funny? Some of these people will tell you when YOU are out there hunting and being free in your prime that they envy you and secretly wish they didnt settle down so fast. Whys that? I think its because we get back to the fact that as a locked down man entering your 30s, assuming you are fit and are on an attractive path in life, you KNOW that you are missing out on your prime SMV.

If a woman is suppose to "live life" in her prime and fuk every genetically superior out-of-league player out there in her youth, I shall do the same as I enter my prime. This is the future of our egosentrical western world, with more and more "serious" relationships happening at later ages for both sexes. Men closer to 40 and women 30. Both have "lived". Ofc there is never a perfect solution and evolution enjoys putting the idea of future happiness in our minds with a beautiful woman by our side, and we know where women closer to 30 most likely have already met "mr perfect" whom you will be unfairly compared to.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

It is a frustrating life experience when we learn as men that when we desperately want and need women we cant get them. It doesnt work logically for us because if we work desperately hard in the gym or with a career it tends to give us great results.

Sure, most of us older members in here are late bloomers. I am for sure one of the worst cases, getting a single mom as my first girlfriend at 26 and being ripped to pieces about how the real world works. Fat young girls can litteraly sleep with and date genetically superior men simply blew my mind and still can. Proof is also on Tinder etc where you can read the requirements from ugly girls, its hysterical.

Still, life can go so many directions, and I chose to think about how most people tend to get good periods at different times in their lives and what kind of impact it has. Some have it easy in their early 20s, settle down with their dream girl, happy marriage and kids, great career. As a blue pill fag you think they are living the dream and you envy them. But you know whats funny? Some of these people will tell you when YOU are out there hunting and being free in your prime that they envy you and secretly wish they didnt settle down so fast. Whys that? I think its because we get back to the fact that as a locked down man entering your 30s, assuming you are fit and are on an attractive path in life, you KNOW that you are missing out on your prime SMV.

If a woman is suppose to "live life" in her prime and fuk every genetically superior out-of-league player out there in her youth, I shall do the same as I enter my prime. This is the future of our egosentrical western world, with more and more "serious" relationships happening at later ages for both sexes. Men closer to 40 and women 30. Both have "lived". Ofc there is never a perfect solution and evolution enjoys putting the idea of future happiness in our minds with a beautiful woman by our side, and we know where women closer to 30 most likely have already met "mr perfect" whom you will be unfairly compared to.

And how do you become such a desirable male? I am chatting with about 10 HB8-10's right now. I met them on Seeking Arrangement.com and there's no other way they would be talking to me.

Is it just a fact of life that eventually you have to start paying girls?

I'm 30. Girls have even asked me...

You're young and handsome. Why are you on this site? And I tell them that despite what they say, I get basically nothing on traditional dating sites.

I will probably start a new thread about Seeking Arrangement.com and hope I don't get kicked off or called a troll because it's not "game."

 

[bigneil]

Next, Olly will tell us that Tom Brady was way better off being a nobody in college than now, as he is turning 40.

 

[The Duke]

If you don't think men (and especially women) envy me when I show up at age 46 with the most gorgeous 21 year woman they've ever seen in their life (while observing that she's in love with me) you're crazy. The greater the age difference (for a given beauty), the more envious people are.

Whenever I see this the first words out of my mouth are "she's a paid girl!" I'm never envious. I instantly think she's a hooker or sugar baby. Take away all of the gifts, trips, clothes, fancy restraurants, car notes, phone bills, etc that you are paying for and if she still stays then great you have something. The majority will be gone.

 

[SuckItUp]

Getting older is no magic ticket. However, where I think people are getting confused is that most men like women fall off a cliff. Being in shape, taking care of yourself, being financially well off, having a social circle etc. shows a lack of outcome dependency.

You are still going to compete with younger men for women but the advantage for older men is that women are attracted to leaders, doers, risk takers, men who are unencumbered in all phases. Younger guys have potential but usually lack vision and aren't typically aren't men. (This is becoming readily apparent with the Millenials).

Not every woman will be open to an older guy and sometimes you meet them at the wrong time in lives, but most women get fed up with boys and will taste what older men have to offer.

 

[bigneil]

Studies show the following surprising trend.

1) Given a choice between two women, both the same attractiveness, the man chooses the younger one (she can have more kids).
2) Given a choice between two men, both the same attractiveness and wealthiness, the woman chooses the OLDER one (he must have better genes).

 

[zekko]

Younger guys have potential but usually lack vision and aren't typically aren't men

Younger men are usually still works in progress.

 

[bigneil]

Whenever I see this the first words out of my mouth are "she's a paid girl!" I'm never envious. I instantly think she's a hooker or sugar baby. Take away all of the gifts, trips, clothes, fancy restraurants, car notes, phone bills, etc that you are paying for and if she still stays then great you have something. The majority will be gone.

Ok, but if you observe with your own two eyes that she is actually in love with him, that he is someone who could break your spine with his bare hands, that he is a top earner, that he is respected by the community, the second words out of your mouth will be "Wow, I'm envious a man his age was powerful enough to seduce a girl her age".

It turns out that being able to seduce gorgeous young women is better than not being able to seduce gorgeous young women.

Go ahead and say she only wants money, but consider: Man with money > man with no money.

See Melania and Donald J. Trump for an example.

Phone bills??

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

It is a frustrating life experience when we learn as men that when we desperately want and need women we cant get them. It doesnt work logically for us because if we work desperately hard in the gym or with a career it tends to give us great results.

Sure, most of us older members in here are late bloomers. I am for sure one of the worst cases, getting a single mom as my first girlfriend at 26 and being ripped to pieces about how the real world works. Fat young girls can litteraly sleep with and date genetically superior men simply blew my mind and still can. Proof is also on Tinder etc where you can read the requirements from ugly girls, its hysterical.

Still, life can go so many directions, and I chose to think about how most people tend to get good periods at different times in their lives and what kind of impact it has. Some have it easy in their early 20s, settle down with their dream girl, happy marriage and kids, great career. As a blue pill fag you think they are living the dream and you envy them. But you know whats funny? Some of these people will tell you when YOU are out there hunting and being free in your prime that they envy you and secretly wish they didnt settle down so fast. Whys that? I think its because we get back to the fact that as a locked down man entering your 30s, assuming you are fit and are on an attractive path in life, you KNOW that you are missing out on your prime SMV.

If a woman is suppose to "live life" in her prime and fuk every genetically superior out-of-league player out there in her youth, I shall do the same as I enter my prime. This is the future of our egosentrical western world, with more and more "serious" relationships happening at later ages for both sexes. Men closer to 40 and women 30. Both have "lived". Ofc there is never a perfect solution and evolution enjoys putting the idea of future happiness in our minds with a beautiful woman by our side, and we know where women closer to 30 most likely have already met "mr perfect" whom you will be unfairly compared to.

But the question is, what does a man's prime look like? And that shall be my new thread idea

 

[Solomon]

Your obsession with other people acknowledging you and validating your existence as opposed to actually experiencing a fulfilling life on your own terms and doing things for your own pleasure and satisfaction is really bizarre. You need to see a psychologist sooner than later.

Exactly Guy sounds like a female

 

[Solomon]

And how do you become such a desirable male? I am chatting with about 10 HB8-10's right now. I met them on Seeking Arrangement.com and there's no other way they would be talking to me.

Is it just a fact of life that eventually you have to start paying girls?

I'm 30. Girls have even asked me...

You're young and handsome. Why are you on this site? And I tell them that despite what they say, I get basically nothing on traditional dating sites.

I will probably start a new thread about Seeking Arrangement.com and hope I don't get kicked off or called a troll because it's not "game."

Have you started the thread? I know a couple guys on roosh v forum who have seen success with that site, the catch of course is not to pay them but to promise them
the female to male ratio is 8 to 1 and the women on that site are thirsty AF

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Have you started the thread? I know a couple guys on roosh v forum who have seen success with that site, the catch of course is not to pay them but to promise them
the female to male ratio is 8 to 1 and the women on that site are thirsty AF

So you basically lie to them?

But I don't get how to make them suck my **** without at least forking over some cash. They're not stupid.

 

[Solomon]

So you basically lie to them?

But I don't get how to make them suck my **** without at least forking over some cash. They're not stupid.

They are trust me
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-21493-page-31.html

FYI yes the guys lie, and it is scumbag game, however if you are somewhat rich like @bigneil you can pull this off easily

I know a couple guys personally who did it, take a girl to a fancy hotel spend money on a drink and bang them of course these girls are not attracted to you and are doing it in hopes of getting money

 

[bigneil]

I know a couple guys personally who did it, take a girl to a fancy hotel spend money on a drink and bang them of course these girls are not attracted to you and are doing it in hopes of getting money

Not attracted? How can you prove that?

When she has sex without your paying her, has her first orgasm of her life with you, tells you she fell in love on the first date, and is still with you 9 months later, guess what? She was attracted. Even if you have a job. It turns out that looks and jobs are not mutually exclusive.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

They are trust me
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-21493-page-31.html

FYI yes the guys lie, and it is scumbag game, however if you are somewhat rich like @bigneil you can pull this off easily

I know a couple guys personally who did it, take a girl to a fancy hotel spend money on a drink and bang them of course these girls are not attracted to you and are doing it in hopes of getting money

So best case scenario, you get one night of free sex.

Worst case, she finds out where you hang out and gets her boys to beat your ass.

What you're talking about is basically rape.

It's major creep game almost along the same lines as creating a fake (or real) porno company or something.

 

[SteR]

Studies show the following surprising trend.

1) Given a choice between two women, both the same attractiveness, the man chooses the younger one (she can have more kids).
2) Given a choice between two men, both the same attractiveness and wealthiness, the woman chooses the OLDER one (he must have better genes).

Do you have any links to these studies?

 

[bigneil]

Do you have any links to these studies?

http://www.news.com.au/news/the-sci...n/news-story/5fc2478471355f5762b0aa135a73d930

"My friend Gabrielle met her boyfriend at a restaurant opening. They are twenty years apart, and they’ve been together for two. He “treats me like I’m a person,” she told me. “I watch so many of my other friends agonize over text messages from guys who . . . just clearly don’t care.” The stereotypes, she says, are true: Older men are attentive, they aren’t threatened by your career success, they didn’t grow up watching porn on their laptops, and they certainly don’t expect sex from you before you’ve even had a chance to meet. It’s not an “old-fashioned” dating scheme, it’s just a more humane one. “I wasn’t trying to go back in time,” Gabrielle added at the end of our conversation. “Nobody wants to go back to the 1950s, we just want to be treated with respect.”

https://acculturated.com/millennial-women/

"And in a 1993 study that analyzed over 1,000 personal ads, researchers found that women typically sought older men, and men typically sought younger women."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...hen-it-comes-dating-do-age-differences-matter