"I'm not going to sleep with you"

[Die Hard]

That post sums it all up, Viagra. Should be mandatory reading for new guys...

 

[Buddha_Mind]

She's not a slut - she can't be because I broke my own rule and slept with her, despite her 'protests' (none). And now she's enjoying reminding me of it.
Guilt-free for her.

Whatever makes you feel better. Of course she's a slvt man, are you kidding? You don't think she was boning that other guy too?

Clearly these verbal talks of sex are just worthless and actions speak for themselves. But c'mon man, don't fool yourself either.

 

[Nutz]

I had an interesting interaction on this subject with a new plate on the weekend.

We've got drinks plans laid out, and she's telling me she's dropping one of her plates to meet me (!) She tells me he's just after sex now, she knows it, so as long as I'm not after the same - drinks would be great. Of course, I tell her I NEVER operate like that. Anyone who trys to get sex on the first date, I tell her, is insane. It is automatic SUICIDE for a new relationship and guys who try this are crazy - that's my rule, I say. She heartily agrees and tells me I'm the first guy she has ever heard come out and say that. Plans are finalised.....

We meet at 8pm, the bar closed at 11pm, by 11.30 she is deep throating me on her balcony (totally her initiation), bedroom for the rest, fall asleep, more, beat a hasty retreat at 8am. Texting me now non-stop for a repeat performance. She has mentioned about 15 god-damn times since that she's "sorry we broke my rule - but that it's all my fault <smile>".

She's not a slut - she can't be because I broke my own rule and slept with her, despite her 'protests' (none). And now she's enjoying reminding me of it.
Guilt-free for her.

Actions..... not words.

This is another version of making out in a club, and putting the breaks on first telling her "we should stop". Guess what drives women up the wall more than anything else? Knowing what they can't have. This is all just another version of the same.

 

[Nutz]

Whatever makes you feel better. Of course she's a slvt man, are you kidding? You don't think she was boning that other guy too?

Clearly these verbal talks of sex are just worthless and actions speak for themselves. But c'mon man, don't fool yourself either.

I think he was being rhetorical. Of course she's a slut, she put out with ease, but she had to backwards rationalize she's not because HE was the one who broke the rule, not her.

 

[Viagra4Soul]

I think he was being rhetorical. Of course she's a slut, she put out with ease, but she had to backwards rationalize she's not because HE was the one who broke the rule, not her.

Bingo.

cheers

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I think he was being rhetorical. Of course she's a slut, she put out with ease, but she had to backwards rationalize she's not because HE was the one who broke the rule, not her.

Women are fvcking crazy.

 

[vatoloco]

What would you all say / do to move through a sh!t test such as this?

Do this.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Do this.

You know, along with the threesome thread here today, my feelings of female-success today are very low!!!!!!

Been kicking myself in the @ss about blowing the opportunity a few weeks ago.

Well, they say einstein wasn't very good at math in high school...
..maybe I am missing the obvious at times still...
but determination has got to mean something eh?

I'd like another go at this "I'm not going to sleep with you tonight" thing.

 

[Slickster]

Women are fvcking crazy.

Maybe, but once you know the signs and signals it's like shooting fish in a barrell. :rockon:

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I had an interesting interaction on this subject with a new plate on the weekend.

We've got drinks plans laid out, and she's telling me she's dropping one of her plates to meet me (!) She tells me he's just after sex now, she knows it, so as long as I'm not after the same - drinks would be great. Of course, I tell her I NEVER operate like that. Anyone who trys to get sex on the first date, I tell her, is insane. It is automatic SUICIDE for a new relationship and guys who try this are crazy - that's my rule, I say. She heartily agrees and tells me I'm the first guy she has ever heard come out and say that. Plans are finalised.....

We meet at 8pm, the bar closed at 11pm, by 11.30 she is deep throating me on her balcony (totally her initiation), bedroom for the rest, fall asleep, more, beat a hasty retreat at 8am. Texting me now non-stop for a repeat performance. She has mentioned about 15 god-damn times since that she's "sorry we broke my rule - but that it's all my fault <smile>".

She's not a slut - she can't be because I broke my own rule and slept with her, despite her 'protests' (none). And now she's enjoying reminding me of it.
Guilt-free for her.

Actions..... not words.

PS -- props to you on this brother, you saw through the verbage to the truth. +1 to you for keeping your head on straight and not letting her throw you off-kilter.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Maybe, but once you know the signs and signals it's like shooting fish in a barrell. :rockon:

Even through I still blow it at times, I know I have been making some great progress and am doing certain things 1000x better.

But I still believe I can be 1000x better yet! And my best female days are ahead of me with continued work!

 

[Jitterbug]

Two lessons for you my fat Buddha:

1. It's never the slvttily dressed girls who are DTF on the same night with a stranger (they're more likely to do so with a male in their own social circle). It's always the one who dresses a little more conservative at that same venue who's down for an ONS.

2. Girls will always make a for-the-record statement of the "I'm not a slvt" kind prior to sleeping with you on the same night. The only thing you need to do is to acknowledge it, but do not dwell on it. Something like "yeah of course" or "that's cool" is more than enough, then change the topic (back to turning her on).

 

[st_99]

2. Girls will always make a for-the-record statement of the "I'm not a slvt" kind prior to sleeping with you on the same night. The only thing you need to do is to acknowledge it, but do not dwell on it. Something like "yeah of course" or "that's cool" is more than enough, then change the topic (back to turning her on).

yeah, i've heard it all....

"that wasn't supposed to happen"

"no, we shouldn't"

"what are you doi.... ahhhhhh"

"i'm not used to this"

LOL, its so damn funny. I suppose its a little flattering that
they actually care if I think they are a slut or not.. haha.

 

[iqqi]

Those are nice alternatives, but really, it doesn't even have to go down the clever path. I just nod, say "Sure, I wasn't even thinking about it." and move onto another topic.

If this girl really wants to pretend that we're not going to have sex while we're both alone and at her house at 3am, then I'll play along with the illusion.

I interpret this type of situation as a girl wanting to convince herself that she was "seduced" into sex, as opposed to overtly desiring it. So, once the "Not having sex" line has been thrown at me, I find that it's best to skip to other topics to let the girl keep her illusion. Hell, once you've made it to this point, the sale has been made and it's not about talk anymore. Might as well keep my mouth shut and just let it happen.

THIS.

I think most of the other lines and jokes given were extremely corny and probably could have also led to the "illusion" being shattered.

OP was very reserved, cool, confident... which is very sexy. If he would have kept that up, making himself comfortable on the couch, not giving her as much attention as she was giving him, just responding, I think he would have nailed it.

In the future I think he can easily just call her up and go out, and not even mention what happened before.

This is her directorial, so just go with the flow you shining star!

 

[scrouds]

Viagara, you're a slut. tsk tsk tsk.

 

[mark123]

I had an interesting interaction on this subject with a new plate on the weekend.

We've got drinks plans laid out, and she's telling me she's dropping one of her plates to meet me (!) She tells me he's just after sex now, she knows it, so as long as I'm not after the same - drinks would be great. Of course, I tell her I NEVER operate like that. Anyone who trys to get sex on the first date, I tell her, is insane. It is automatic SUICIDE for a new relationship and guys who try this are crazy - that's my rule, I say. She heartily agrees and tells me I'm the first guy she has ever heard come out and say that. Plans are finalised.....

We meet at 8pm, the bar closed at 11pm, by 11.30 she is deep throating me on her balcony (totally her initiation), bedroom for the rest, fall asleep, more, beat a hasty retreat at 8am. Texting me now non-stop for a repeat performance. She has mentioned about 15 god-damn times since that she's "sorry we broke my rule - but that it's all my fault <smile>".

She's not a slut - she can't be because I broke my own rule and slept with her, despite her 'protests' (none). And now she's enjoying reminding me of it.
Guilt-free for her.

Actions..... not words.

Nice, work bro. Great job!

Question -- how did you end up at her place after the bars closed? Did you have to force it, or she brought it up?

 

[vatoloco]

Been kicking myself in the @ss about blowing the opportunity a few weeks ago.

The important thing, my friend, is that you now saw your mistake and learned from it.

Experience is the best teacher.

 

[Viagra4Soul]

Nice, work bro. Great job!

Question -- how did you end up at her place after the bars closed? Did you have to force it, or she brought it up?

Sorry for delay - been overseas.

She kissed me first in the bar, then suggested as the bar closed to go back to her's for more wine, as the night was still young. And boom!...

I had never met this woman before..... guess I look better in real life than the photos.

 

[disgustipated]

Add another one to the list.

Last weekend, 2nd date with this one. She tells me TWICE during the night "I'm not ****ing you tonight!". Her body language definitely said otherwise.

1st time: I know.

2nd time: Yeah okay. I don't do that **** on the first date.
Her: It's our second date! (kinda madface.jpg cuz I didn't remember it's our 2nd date...subtle neg?)
Me: I don't do that on 2nd dates either.


Cut to later, she's blowing me on her couch then pounding it a little later.

She was not all that, nor was my performance lols but the whole "we're not ****ing" is like a a dude on a tarmac waving an airplane in to land. As long as you don't respond incorrectly.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Add another one to the list.

Last weekend, 2nd date with this one. She tells me TWICE during the night "I'm not ****ing you tonight!". Her body language definitely said otherwise.

1st time: I know.

2nd time: Yeah okay. I don't do that **** on the first date.
Her: It's our second date! (kinda madface.jpg cuz I didn't remember it's our 2nd date...subtle neg?)
Me: I don't do that on 2nd dates either.


Cut to later, she's blowing me on her couch then pounding it a little later.

She was not all that, nor was my performance lols but the whole "we're not ****ing" is like a a dude on a tarmac waving an airplane in to land. As long as you don't respond incorrectly.

Okay, okay rub it in my face, eh?

Anyone reading this thread -- learn from it.