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Atom Smasher said:
Tell me, reader, what is the worth of your taking the hammer and chisel to yourself every day to make yourself a man of substance? Has it been painful to do so? Has it cost you? Has it cost you discomfort, pain, money, etc.?

You're damn right it has. Even if you're just starting out to improve yourself, you are paying a heavy price to be a man of substance. Assign proper worth to that.Your own character, that you are creating, is an investment in FOREVER. On the other hand, a woman's looks (her only currency) is temporary and fading every day.

What is the worth of that fact?

For you younger guys who are struggling and don't feel you have your act together yet, never forget that there is no actual destination. It is enough to be on the right track, making tiny decisions and corrections every day to better your station in life, whether financial or relational. Assign WORTH to that. If you fall off the track, you haven't failed. You're simply one decision away from getting right back on track. The track is the success, not the destination.
Actually Atom Smasher lately I've been defining confidence as this. Looking at my accomplishments and looking at them to derive worth and confidence to drive me to do actions that bring me even more worth and confidence. And experience builds upon experience.

That's why we as human beings collect trophies and medals because they are a physical manifestation of that worth and value. The only difference in this case is the worth and confidence isn't necessarily derived from a physical object but your past experiences. And even do you aren't physically wearing that medal of accomplishment around your neck people still notice!

And the culmination of walking around with knowledge and all this confidence in yourself is that attitude you describe in your first post, the "I am better than you" attitude.

Is it a wonder that people always say you need confidence!, self-esteem!, inner game!, frame control!, dominance! They are all one and the same!
 

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I agree with you, loveorlust. It truly is a shame that being a kind, decent man yields revulsion and disrespect.

That is what I really want to be, but I've been that most of my life and have generated very little attraction.

The very things that other men respect and consider to be good will are despised by women. You would NEVER deal with another man with an "I'm better than you" attitude. No, by-and-large we like to extend respect and good will to each other if we're well-adjusted.

Well all that decency goes flying out the window when it comes to women, doesn't it? They revile the very things that we consider to be admirable as we relate to each other as men. The media has truly twisted them into confused robots, walking in precise lock-step. They have close to zero ability to discern reality, and this is coming from a man who grew up when all of this was only just starting. In those days women did indeed have some sense of reality and assigned worth to kindness and friendliness. That is all but dead today.

What I write here on SS is designed to help men to use rational thought to supercede feminized education, preconceived notions, and societal assumptions. We are in a sad state of affairs where we must discern and define the machinations behind the scenes that have all but annihilated male/female relationships and start to leverage our advantages.

It starts with recognizing our own worth, which goes completely against society's relentless attempts at male humiliation and devaluation.

Rage against the machine!!

Women are incapable of recognizing what has happened. They are utterly blind to it just a s a fish cannot comprehend that it is wet. We, however, CAN recognize these things and effect a reversal.
 

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ArcBound said:
Actually Atom Smasher lately I've been defining confidence as this. Looking at my accomplishments and looking at them to derive worth and confidence to drive me to do actions that bring me even more worth and confidence. And experience builds upon experience.

That's why we as human beings collect trophies and medals because they are a physical manifestation of that worth and value. The only difference in this case is the worth and confidence isn't necessarily derived from a physical object but your past experiences. And even do you aren't physically wearing that medal of accomplishment around your neck people still notice!

And the culmination of walking around with knowledge and all this confidence in yourself is that attitude you describe in your first post, the "I am better than you" attitude.

Is it a wonder that people always say you need confidence!, self-esteem!, inner game!, frame control!, dominance! They are all one and the same!
Excellent... I agree with you 100%.

I have always wondered, "Yes, I know I need confidence, but HOW? How does a man develop confidence? What is the starting point?" For most of us it has been like trying to pick up an elusive drop of mercury. It slithers away every time you try to pick it up and you can never quite understand it.

But now I'm realizing something very profound (for me). The first step in recognizing how to have confidence is in corectly discerning VALUE.

I have been developing true confidence in the past few years because I have learned to assign value to my self-efforts (again, what men invest in themselves is FOREVER) and to de-value illusion. Face putty, paint, clothing, high heels, are all there to create illusion, to elicit a hard-wired response in us.

Hence the minions drooling after the unobtainable, as the seemingly unobtainable soaks up the attention like a dry sponge that can never be saturated. They love the attention because it's quick dose of crack (or whatever the drug du jour is) but they despise the needle (the minions).

What we need to do is to differentiate ourselves as men who understand their own value in relation to women's only currency (looks). You can't go wrong when you understand that value, and confidence MUST arise from that understanding. It can be no other way.

You are hearing me correctly... A man can get a handle on confidence and attain it as an internal, defining trait by re-assessing relative value. The only frame that matters and that is real is yours. Women will buy into your frame if you will only just understand your worth as a man.

This is a dirty, filthy game where the inmates are most definitely running the insane asylum. I don't like being imprisoned in the insane asylum.

Therefore, in order to escape I rejected the basic premises held by the insane wardens and simply walked through the walls.
 

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When I was in grade school I tryed to be as nice as possible to everyone. It was my mission to be cool with everybody. Same thing my first semester in college. Guess how many girls I had sex with? Guess how cool I was?

After that I said f*ck it and really only cared about myself. After I did this girls started to flock with me. The reason this was was because I gained much confidence when I only tryed to please myself and this is the mentality I will have for the rest of my life.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
I agree with you, loveorlust. It truly is a shame that being a kind, decent man yields revulsion and disrespect.

That is what I really want to be, but I've been that most of my life and have generated very little attraction.

The very things that other men respect and consider to be good will are despised by women. You would NEVER deal with another man with an "I'm better than you" attitude. No, by-and-large we like to extend respect and good will to each other if we're well-adjusted.

Well all that decency goes flying out the window when it comes to women, doesn't it? They revile the very things that we consider to be admirable as we relate to each other as men. The media has truly twisted them into confused robots, walking in precise lock-step. They have close to zero ability to discern reality, and this is coming from a man who grew up when all of this was only just starting. In those days women did indeed have some sense of reality and assigned worth to kindness and friendliness. That is all but dead today.

What I write here on SS is designed to help men to use rational thought to supercede feminized education, preconceived notions, and societal assumptions. We are in a sad state of affairs where we must discern and define the machinations behind the scenes that have all but annihilated male/female relationships and start to leverage our advantages.

It starts with recognizing our own worth, which goes completely against society's relentless attempts at male humiliation and devaluation.

Rage against the machine!!

Women are incapable of recognizing what has happened. They are utterly blind to it just a s a fish cannot comprehend that it is wet. We, however, CAN recognize these things and effect a reversal.
the bold part is one of the true statements that really motivates me to change. I grew up with manners being polite , waiting my turn , and despite all the progress of civilization , the brutish and animalistic side of men is still the more attractive side .

once its truly realized , all you have to do is make the proper changes in your life before you start to notice results.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Promoting your bullshit material eh Nutz? Good thing you copy pasted that same post in two different threads, now I'm sure it's fucking bullshit.
Wow, the pompous arrogance of this young kid is astounding. Heaven forbid I find value it in even after being in this community for about 5 years, and chasing tail longer than he's been alive. And no, it's not "my" material. I don't know who created it and it was passed along to me by one of my students. I've since incorporated a few of it's teachings into my own.
 

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Why would you want a women to think you are more valuable than her, just be more valuable. Get money, good body, social status, and don't say stupid things, and they will be all over you.

To pretend to be more valuable may get you in their pants for one night, but they won't stick around once they find the truth.
 

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I have to admit this is absolutely true!! Gold post for sure!! Indifference works wonders too!! Seems to work even better the older you get. Good looking women are used to being hit on and their mentality is, "why isn't this dude groveling at my feet? He must be better...stronger than the rest of the orbiters."

Good post atom and I attest this works!

Even noticed it working as I work through my break up as my indifference shines through, but reality is I am faking it until I make it and have tons on the mind.
 

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This motto may be a step up from whatever nice guy, ass-kissing motto you had before, but I don't find it to be the best.

The best motto for me is, "Here I am. I'm a busy guy, and don't have all day but I can make you laugh, and make you moan. Like it? Get over here. Don't like it? It's cool."
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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this thread has pretty much summed up all the stuff i've learned from ss since i came here
 

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Exactly, brother Zekko. You get it, as did many others here, but your articulation in very good.

You're correct in that you don't do it in a "snobbish" way, but rather that it is so obvious that it bears no thought or question, a "secret" as you say. It's a given as much as the sky is blue and the earth is round.

I found your second paragraph interesting. You need to offset that cool and detached vibe because you're naturally that way, and I have to cool down that intense laser eye because I'm naturally that way.

Now that I'm older I've noticed that I've always been an energy vampire (until recently). What I mean is that I was always somewhat reactive with women, on a very deep and subtle level. I was doing what females are supposed to do... yuck! I cringe every time I think of it.

I would always notice a slight change in myself when relating to women, in that I was somehow being guided by their energy and timing instead of mine. I think that came from growing up with 3 sisters, no brothers and a very domineering mom, along with a largely absentee father. A recipe for disaster.

I remember having a sort of "longing" attitude about me that I know showed in my body language. It was almost a telegraphing of my desire for acceptance. I really can't articulate what I mean but it had to do with sucking the energy from women instead of providing it myself. I'll bet some of you guys can relate even if you haven't been able to put your finger on what the problem is. Please excuse me as I need to make a trip to the vomitorium.

OK, all better. Back to following up on Zekko's excellent post, he makes a good point that if we are too intense we need to moderate that with coolness, which is exactly what I'm doing, but to an extreme. That's because the extreme works like magic for me. By the same token, if you are too aloof and detached, more intensity may be called for.

But we can't deny the bottom line... There is a contrived advantage that women have that necessitates sites like this, which is the power of looks and their ability to maximize them. Therefore we must reject that contrivance as worth (because the only real worth of that is sexual and having a trophy to show off), and instead elevate our own worth.

Tell me, reader, what is the worth of your taking the hammer and chisel to yourself every day to make yourself a man of substance? Has it been painful to do so? Has it cost you? Has it cost you discomfort, pain, money, etc.?

You're damn right it has. Even if you're just starting out to improve yourself, you are paying a heavy price to be a man of substance. Assign proper worth to that.Your own character, that you are creating, is an investment in FOREVER. On the other hand, a woman's looks (her only currency) is temporary and fading every day.

What is the worth of that fact?

For you younger guys who are struggling and don't feel you have your act together yet, never forget that there is no actual destination. It is enough to be on the right track, making tiny decisions and corrections every day to better your station in life, whether financial or relational. Assign WORTH to that. If you fall off the track, you haven't failed. You're simply one decision away from getting right back on track. The track is the success, not the destination.

Go into your interactions with women armed with the knowledge that you are forging yourself into a masterpiece. She would in no way be able to understand that concept if it were presented to her, but your own innate knowledge that you are forging yourself and therefore have great worth will cause you to relate to her with a proper relative evaluation of your own worth compared to hers.

She WANTS you to be worth more than she. She NEEDS this. She pines away and longs for a man like YOU, if you will only just recognize the worth of a man's character in relation to face putty and a pretty dress.

Get out there and convey your worth to the world. Convey your worth to females. The secret is that you can do this while still conveying proper humility, kindness, etc. Start to think about how to aceive that balance, but err on the side of: "I'm better than you".

Because guess what, Clyde? Until you shine your light, she thinks she's better than YOU!!
Love this post.
 

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Tell me, reader, what is the worth of your taking the hammer and chisel to yourself every day to make yourself a man of substance? Has it been painful to do so? Has it cost you? Has it cost you discomfort, pain, money, etc.?

You're damn right it has. Even if you're just starting out to improve yourself, you are paying a heavy price to be a man of substance. Assign proper worth to that.Your own character, that you are creating, is an investment in FOREVER. On the other hand, a woman's looks (her only currency) is temporary and fading every day.

What is the worth of that fact?

For you younger guys who are struggling and don't feel you have your act together yet, never forget that there is no actual destination. It is enough to be on the right track, making tiny decisions and corrections every day to better your station in life, whether financial or relational. Assign WORTH to that. If you fall off the track, you haven't failed. You're simply one decision away from getting right back on track. The track is the success, not the destination.

Go into your interactions with women armed with the knowledge that you are forging yourself into a masterpiece. She would in no way be able to understand that concept if it were presented to her, but your own innate knowledge that you are forging yourself and therefore have great worth will cause you to relate to her with a proper relative evaluation of your own worth compared to hers.

She WANTS you to be worth more than she. She NEEDS this. She pines away and longs for a man like YOU, if you will only just recognize the worth of a man's character in relation to face putty and a pretty dress.

Get out there and convey your worth to the world. Convey your worth to females. The secret is that you can do this while still conveying proper humility, kindness, etc. Start to think about how to aceive that balance, but err on the side of: "I'm better than you".
Now THAT is some well articulated stuff right there. That's just crazy good.
I'd rep you if I could.
 

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US women are seriously screwed up. the ones that aint, have so many high grade men around them that you have no chance at all. Look at 3rd world women instead. All you need to do really, you have already got. That is to say, being male, so you can marry them legally, and your US citizenship, so that a fiance visa will get them into the US. Yes, you will probably lose her after 5 years, when she gets her citizenship, so what? Get another one just like her. :) There's millions of them, cherryblossoms.com has 10's of thousands of them, online and waiting for you.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Atom Smasher said:
"Yes, I know I need confidence, but HOW? How does a man develop confidence? What is the starting point?"
It starts with the love we got as children from our mother and our family. We just knew we were special because they loved us. Slowly however we came to realize that non-family members didn't offer such unconditional love. So we started to focus on those conditions that did bring us closer to love from outside the family.
 

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Social_Leper said:
Awesome thread Atom. So what you’re saying is it’s necessary for us to be aware that we are constantly in a state of flux, always improving and bettering ourselves and to derive confidence from this knowledge. To know that we will one day be the prize even if we are far from our goal now: this mindset becomes self-fulfilling. I think Ali encompasses it perfectly when he said "I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was".
Yes, but to that I would add that a man who is in process is already the prize in the present.

If we are molding ourselves into men of character, that is an investment in eternity (character can never lose value). That internal value soars high above the value of the female's currency (looks and sexuality) which is fleeting.

Therefore we should approach women with the quiet assurance that we have internal, intrinsic value that demands that we judge each individal woman as worthy/unworthy of our time and attention.

If we all made this self-evaluation it would turn the game around on its ear. I firmly believe that this paradgm has to be the basis of the normalization of society according to nature.
 

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I think it's not so much "I'm better than you", but rather "I have a higher value" and "you could be replaced in an instant". YOU HONEY, would have to have your own game to elicit my interest!

Combine the above attitude with a sprinkle of indifference and alot of confidence, and you'll get some mud for your turtle.
 

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Yes, you will have to excuse my use of sensationalistic headlines, but I must maintain my readership by any means possible. ;)

Actually, it's crudely put for a reason. Go in strong (attitude-wise) and then pull back to calibrate properly. The crude statement helps to solidify the concept in the mind, to help to "carry it around" with you. In actual practice, of course it should be nuanced. There is no arrogance involved, but rather a demand that she works for your attention. It has to do with a deep, gut-level understanding that you are the prize and that her looks mean very little.

Good looks are exceedingly common and are by and large bought at the makeup counter (aside from natural figure) and clothing stores. However, our value is obtained by hard work, sweat and pain that we inflict upon ourselves to achieve mastery. That self-mastery is of INFINITE value, whereas female looks and sexual appeal fade away quite rapidly in general.

Mud for the turtle... I thought I'd heard 'em all till I met you!
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Yes, you will have to excuse my use of sensationalistic headlines, but I must maintain my readership by any means possible. ;)

Actually, it's crudely put for a reason. Go in strong (attitude-wise) and then pull back to calibrate properly. The crude statement helps to solidify the concept in the mind, to help to "carry it around" with you. In actual practice, of course it should be nuanced. There is no arrogance involved, but rather a demand that she works for your attention. It has to do with a deep, gut-level understanding that you are the prize and that her looks mean very little.

Good looks are exceedingly common and are by and large bought at the makeup counter (aside from natural figure) and clothing stores. However, our value is obtained by hard work, sweat and pain that we inflict upon ourselves to achieve mastery. That self-mastery is of INFINITE value, whereas female looks and sexual appeal fade away quite rapidly in general.

Mud for the turtle... I thought I'd heard 'em all till I met you!
I got a million of 'em! :D
 
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