Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
al77: Understood, but I my intent was to kick JOKEER in the ass a bit rather than go Socrates on him.
To answer your question though: Is it better to choose the path of least resistance to get to that intimacy or self-develop and get the same intimacy? Both instances put women as the focus of a guys life,
Women want to 'want' their men. She doesn't want a slave to her intimacy since this puts her in the masculine role. Rahter she wants a decisive mature man who has the confidence to put her off (however occasionally) in favor of his ambition and passions as this serves two purposes.
First, it sets his direction as the one of authority and his development as the primary; the results of which she and her potential children will benefit from.
Sencondly, it puts her into a position of chasing after him - essentially his legitimate ambitions and passsions become the 'other woman' with which she must compete for his attention.
Rollo,
JOKEER admitted he liked your post. What would it mean? I guess you didn't kick his a** enough
Anyway.. you have a very interesting ability to follow logic, think conceptually but you tend to omit analysis of the conclusions.
Every single thing you said is right. But as you said lets just play Socrates here: what is the result in terms of the answer to the question I posed?
1. "it sets his direction as the one of authority and his development as the primary". "It" does not set the direction.
"It" is something too abstract to have an ability to set things.
But you are right, he sets it, i.e. he sets his direction.. and hi development as the primary (if he wants to).
Now the main question here: what does it depend on? (That he sets his direction)
It solely depends on... _him_. On how he thinks. And it does not depends on how much money he accumulated so far, what job he holds.. etc. It influences him, sure, in the sense "I have resposibilitie sat work" but this is solely due to his thoughts he has his responsibilities. Responsibilities by themselves do not set a thing.
So back to the initial question: if what he does depends solely on him, on how he thinks, would it matter if he developed himself or not? It helps to be busy with work to pay less attention to a woman, sure. But he is the only person who has the power to decide what he really wants to do.
and it doesn't matter if he is a relatively young and relatively poor "undeveloped" guy or he is older and much more developed.
He is getting a pvssy due to his ability to get pvssy, and whatever he earns (little or a lot) will be brought to his "pvssy" anyway.
If a woman kills his dreams, then he simply didn't dream, didn't really want to. He was going in the way of low resistantce "if opportunity will come.. Ill jump on it". Yes, a woman severely limits hi opportunities so he does do much. But didn't want to in the first place.
If he is developed it is the same thing: either a woman kills his dreams and he "sits home" or he does what he wants.
It is in no way depends on the level of development of a man.
It depends on his ability to think and his desire to accomplish somehting.
Just a simple example: I know a guy who makes 80+. It is very good money in my area. He is married. Now he came to a conclusion he doesn't want to be an engineer anymore.. he wants to be a doctor and want to go to medical school. He is 31 and his situation is very stable. But is going to the med school for like 7 years and.. he is not going to work for this time. Somehow he convince his wife it is better for them and she agreed to support him throughout his studies.
Obviously he doesn't do it get more money or please his wife.
He does it because he wants to do it.
2. It is true: women tend to chase a "developed" man.
It seems as some easy advice fo a young lad.. go develop youself and women will chase you. True. But we have to look at the whole picture. When he will develop himself enough for women to chase him, he is not going to be 21 or 23. He is going to be in his 30s and most likely in his middle 30s. This is the time when men do not want ONS so much they did want ti in their 20s. They already ideally want one good woman, they want to settle down (not all but many). Sure attention of women who chase him is flattering, this is already not what he want, it is not his primary goal anymore. He wants a quality woman insted of flocks of semigolddiggers. He wants a woman who would not care much about his wealth. Do you see this paradox? He developed, established himself and now he wants somebody who does not care about what he has. Why the heck he was doing it? The only answer is for himself. He does it for himself, he does decide what he does himself and he lives his life himself.
Life usually shows him this path if he keeps his eyes open and his woman do not playfully close them with her hands.
It all depends on him, no matter what state he is in.
