If you're good looking, be NICE!

[Alphamale1821]

I had the same problem and there is a simple explanation. Yes when you are good looking you get more smiles, they start conversations sometimes instead of the other way around etc etc. The problem is that you being good looking won't change the way females are made, YOU STILL HAVE TO LEAD THEM, YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVE! YOU STILL HAVE TO ASK THEM OUT THEY WONT DO IT!

You getting smiles and having them talk to you is them giving you a green light pretty much. Even so they still expect you to be a man and ask them out, lead them, make your move etc. This is a fact that doesn't change whether you are ugly, average or good looking, women won't take the lead you have to do it!

That was the biggest mistake i was making with women. Getting smiles from random girls at campus and everywhere i went, getting looks, but not doing to well in actually getting lots of dates. Then i realized that i am getting green lights but i am not acting on it.

If you are good looking like you say you are there is only 1 thing you need to do, GET YOURSELF OUT THERE! talk to them, ask them out if you get signals. You will end up with plenty of dates you won't be turned down often. Just get yourself out there don't concentrate on 1 or just getting a gf, if you get signals ask for numbers (you won't get turned down often) start calling them, then ask for dates simple as that. You'll do well trust me.

The thing is though that being good looking will get you lots of numbers and dates if you show confidence and act on the signals you get, but you still need game to seduce them and achieve your goals. The advantage you have is that they want to be seduced by you and gave you signals for you to approach them. Whether you seduce them or f____ up is up to you.

So damn true man that has ALWAYS been my problem, while i have certinaly improved i notice it more and more especially in college. Girls give me EVERY ****KING IOI you can think of, from eye contact with smiles, direct compliments, obviously making themselves available to me, hell even had this one chick rub her ass all over my hard cocck and i didn't Do ****. Truthfully speaking i probably could have had sex with at least 10-12 girls this semester but instead i've only made out with 4 girls and allowed myself to be taken advantage of by some fat biitch. AH GAWD the horror.

Anyway though, i went through many states this semester at college, from super ****y, to gaming every chick i saw, to ignoring every chick i saw and to finally just not giving a fuuck and having a good time, with genuine confidence. In all situations i had so many chances for puussy so much. But hey i'm not beating myself up for this, for this has been a hard sticking point for my entire life. Always beautiful women making it obvious they want me and me doing nothing. But with my evaluation of myself and realzing that i am going to be a musician i now know that i have to embrace every aspect of good things in my life. The potential to have the palm of the world in my hands.

I know that if i never make my move on these beautiful women i will never be able to experience the joy and bliss of a truly goregous women. And it's so crazy because it's not thta i'm afraid to talk to them, or even make the move but i JUST DON"T MAKE THE MOVE. like it's crazy but when i'm talking to some chicks and totally vibing with them my mind tells me that i can make a move b/c i have DHV and they way this women looks at me, she will do anything all i have to do is lead....BUT I DON"T or at least i HAVEN'T. But the point is i have 3 weeks b4 next semester and i am determinded to embrace evry part of my life. I am so driven when it comes to my music, and i serisouly see more and more that i don't have to try with women. The only thing i have to do is simply LEAD,MAKE THE MOVE, TAKE ACTION.

This post simply tells me what i already know, but it's the one thing i always struggle with taking the action. I am however determined to change my life, b/c it's not fair that these gorgeous, beautiful women in my life don't get to experience more then a great conversation with me. I want to show them how much i really appreciate them. I'm still the prize and always will be but i must stop being selfish. In closing i want their puussy, but don't have to work for it, but at the same time i just never show them that i want them so it leads me no where. However i swear to myself i will change this next semester. I am tired of this man and it's time to go after everything i want in my life. Music, money is my drive and i don't have to try hard i just have to want it and acheive it.

 

[f283000]

This post simply tells me what i already know, but it's the one thing i always struggle with taking the action. I am however determined to change my life, b/c it's not fair that these gorgeous, beautiful women in my life don't get to experience more then a great conversation with me. I want to show them how much i really appreciate them. I'm still the prize and always will be but i must stop being selfish. In closing i want their puussy, but don't have to work for it, but at the same time i just never show them that i want them so it leads me no where. However i swear to myself i will change this next semester. I am tired of this man and it's time to go after everything i want in my life. Music, money is my drive and i don't have to try hard i just have to want it and acheive it.

live, learn, charge it to the game. Use the offseason to rethink your strategy and come up with new motivation. That's what im doing before the new semester.

If you get signals start conversations, NEVER talk about your looks or start off with c&f or anything that makes you look ****y,don't do neggin. I learned this the hard way because when you are good looking and you neg them or act ****y they will think they are out of your league and be turned off, think you are all into yourself due to your looks. This is way different when you are the average looking one and they are the hottie and you use neggin, cf& to bring them down to your level and raise yours.

Had this girl at work that always would look at me and smile. I never had the balls to say hi till one day she was alone in the breakroom and i saw my opportunity. I opened with a situational opener (said "that looks tasty" she was eating a sandwish) and her positive reaction was right away. So we got talking and she was already interrogating me (where i lived etc) not even a minute into talking and i had a brain fart i supposed somehow i started talking about my good looks and she said "well aren't you the modest type" and noticed she being turned off. After that it was over as she wasn't the teeny bop 19 year old type that might go for that type of stuff she was into her late 20's and seemed rather mature. That was not the last mistake i made trying to be the ****y type and it really is hard to shake off the persona once you start out and get into it.

 

[MisterMcGee]

C+F is awesome if you're, you know, FUNNY. It's basically 'teasing', and girls love being teased. It's funny, makes room for touching, and places attention on her which she'll love.
If you can get them angry (the female equivalent, which isn't to be taken too seriously) at something you say, then that's not a bad thing - they value your opinion (depending on how they show they are angry). If they storm off with rolled eyes, then you mean jack all to her. If she laughs and has a *gasp* face and says "youre so mean!" or "i hate you!", then things are gravy. And that's an opportunity for you to be a man. Really, there's no negative side to being playful and teasing her, unless you aren't funny and don't have a 'fun' frame.

 

[Sandow]

I agree the OP actions were smooth and confident. It wasn't AFC nice or supplicative. When we use the term "nice guy" on this board we are referring to the low self-estem, supplicating, whatever you want nice guy. Your actions at the mall were very confident, not the other way around.

And I agree if you're good looking, then there is no need to be ****y or arrogant (negging) when you first meet a girl. You already have value, your looks. She will respond in a receptive manner because you have value. However once she sees past your looks, what else do you have to offer? Are you just a pretty face? This is where you make it or break it. Your personality and frame needs to be on point. True value comes from within. Being very nice and AFC will get your a$$ kicked to the door. You need to show confidence, control and dominance. Like the above poster said, you need to lead the girls and NEVER supplicate. These are times when it's ok to neg and show a little dominance. Trust me being overly nice all the time will not keep the girl. Your being predictable and boring. That equals BAD!

 

[Sandow]

Also, I believe we glorify C&F too much on this board. As if it's the only thing we need to attract girls. The reason why its so popular is because of marketing geniuses like David Deangelo.

The OP was shocked that he didn't use some C&F line and still got numbers! This is just an example of how infatuated we are with it. C&F is a small part of the game, in fact, its a very small percentage of my dialogue when talking to girls. I just hope everyone understands that there is so much more to attraction.

 

[Drum&Bass]

You need to read people on an individual basis. Womens personalities and social interaction can not be summed up by a few internet forums. It takes years of experience, failures, success, common sense and self awareness to become a great communicator.

This site just helps the really shy guys have tools to go out and do what needs to be done by everyone, GAIN REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE FROM PRACTICE !

 

[f283000]

True value comes from within. Being very nice and AFC will get your a$$ kicked to the door. You need to show confidence, control and dominance. Like the above poster said, you need to lead the girls and NEVER supplicate. These are times when it's ok to neg and show a little dominance. Trust me being overly nice all the time will not keep the girl. Your being predictable and boring. That equals BAD!

correct. The problem that many guys have is that they equate c&f with being confident. C&F is not confidence it is merely an addition to your personality to make you seem more interesting and exciting and dilute some of the afc/nice guy in you.

Just talking to a girl that gives you a smile is confidence and many good looking/nice guys do not have that. You can get looks and smiles everyday you go out of the house from random girls but don't expect to get anything out of it besides confirmation of your attractiveness. It will not get you dates because girls simply do not ask guys out.

 

[jafyk]

Can somebody post a video clip of a guy(either from a movie or in real life) acting ****y and funny with a girl.

Because when I think of ****y and funny I also think of corniness.

A good example would be Pierce Brosnan in "Laws of Attraction" staring Julianne Moore.

 

[snowdog]

What about this, one of my favorite movie parts ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynoiBF7OjkI