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If you were a dating coach, where would you start with a complete kissless VirginCel like this?

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I was watching this, and it got me interested.

 
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AMS is the boss of dating coaches, I like Corey Wayne also but ams is better
 

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What would you do @MatureDJ? You started this thread...what is your suggestion? If someone is thinking of ending his life he doesn't sound like he is in the right mindset for dating in the first place. He sounds like he will pedistalize the first girl who gives him an opening and the minute she turns on him, meets another guy, or it goes side-ways he'll be worst off then how he's feeling now and may actually do it rather than talk about it.
 

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What would you do @MatureDJ? You started this thread...what is your suggestion? If someone is thinking of ending his life he doesn't sound like he is in the right mindset for dating in the first place. He sounds like he will pedistalize the first girl who gives him an opening and the minute she turns on him, meets another guy, or it goes side-ways he'll be worst off then how he's feeling now and may actually do it rather than talk about it.
I would not be competent at being a dating coach. I think his only hope is to SEAMax, and even then he could use some coaching.
 

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obviously, a woman who is upset or emotionally damaged like that guy is in that video, whines or complains, still has a much better chance of getting into a relationship than the other way around
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The content creator has good suggestions. He would need to re-make the entirety of his looks. Needs to lose weight and start lifting more weights to develop a muscular physique. Needs to shave mustache and beard and get contacts. Likely needs to re-do his entire wardrobe. Needs to eat clean, not watch porn, and not masturbate.

Probably needs work on his personality too.

It would take a lot of work to get him competitive.
 

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I was watching this, and it got me interested.

Acceptance is key. Paying for play is his only way, and luckily for him more and more women monetize their bodies.

Even if he would put in all the work ,it will only make him another mark who goes through the same hardship that most average men go through. A kiss or a woman to sleep with once or twice might give him some confidence, but not as much as he'd think.

He just needs to accept his faith and try to live a fulfilling life regardless.





You seriously think someone with a normal life has the time to watch a 45 minute video of an incel whining about his life?
The same people wo have time to make thousands and thousands of posts ij year on a niche redpill forum? Or someone who is cleaning while having something playing in the background?
 

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Only if you are a desperate man with no standards...but that applies to probably half of the men today.
well one thing that definetley seems true, the way a man talks or behaves, acts, in conversation or interaction, communication, is a lot more important than the other way around when it comes to attracting a mate. It seems women judge men on the things they say and do more than the other way around
 

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well one thing that definetley seems true, the way a man talks or behaves, acts, in conversation or interaction, communication, is a lot more important than the other way around when it comes to attracting a mate. It seems women judge men on the things they say and do more than the other way around
That's because most men have no standards
 

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For a laugh, I put this question into ChatGPT, and this was the response:


If I were a dating coach working with a kissless "VirginCel" (someone who identifies with involuntary celibacy), I'd approach the situation with empathy and practical strategies. Here's how I'd start:

1. Mindset and Self-Confidence
  • Reframing Beliefs: Help them challenge negative self-perceptions or limiting beliefs about relationships. Being a virgin or inexperienced doesn't define their worth. I’d focus on building self-esteem, encouraging a growth mindset where they see dating as a skill that can be learned rather than an innate talent.
  • Self-Acceptance: Encourage self-compassion. It’s important they accept where they are without shame and understand that everyone moves at their own pace in relationships.
2. Social Skills Development
  • Communication: Begin with small, simple social interactions. Practice talking to people in various everyday situations to build comfort in socializing, whether it's at work, the gym, or even online.
  • Body Language: Teach the basics of confident body language—eye contact, open posture, and smiling.
3. Understanding Attraction and Dating Dynamics
  • Human Connection: Focus on emotional intelligence and understanding what draws people together. Building rapport, active listening, and showing genuine interest in others are key.
  • Realistic Expectations: Help them understand that dating isn't about instant success. It’s a process that involves rejection, learning, and growth.
4. Building a Fulfilling Life
  • Hobbies and Passions: Encourage them to cultivate a full, enjoyable life outside of dating. People who are genuinely happy with themselves and their lives tend to attract others naturally.
  • Fitness and Health: Physical self-improvement (diet, exercise, grooming) can positively impact both self-esteem and outward appearance, contributing to dating success.
5. Online Dating and Approaches
  • Online Dating Profiles: Assist in creating a genuine and appealing online dating profile, emphasizing authenticity and positive qualities.
  • Practice in Low-Stakes Environments: Encourage them to start in low-pressure environments, like online platforms or casual social settings, where the stakes feel lower.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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