If you really knew me..

[Naughty Ninja]

I was watching Youtube last night and started seeing these videos by chicks from all over who've been bullied or had issues that they may not show on the outside which would most likely explain a lot of chicks actions these days in real life that you'd never know.

I really felt bad for these chicks. A lot of them are really pretty damn cute. You never know what someones going through in life and rather than being an opportunist try being a man and walk away if you have to and not be another person who contributes to their issues for your own personal gain IE: "needs".

I've never been the type to take advantage of a person who gives off signs of being weak or damaged which is why I never bothered meeting chicks off POF. I already knew they have serious issues and watching the videos I saw made me think of many of them and I actually felt sorry for these chicks.

There are a ton of videos (mostly made by teen chicks from all over) on youtube titled: "If you really knew me".

Check them out. Then check yourself and self reflect on if you are an opportunist or a real man in the way you treat others.

*Edit: I'll add a few links if you dudes are too lazy to search youtube when I get a chance.

 

[bigneil]

Talk about too much time on your hands! Bullied women? You mean they were never battered or worse, but still want to portray themselves as victims?

That said, it's true that people have been through more than you think - look at the middle class for example.

 

[Scars]

There is a movement going on right now regarding bullying, especially online bullying. I'd imagine it's also sparked by the feminists and other similar activists as nearly all these types of stories involve young women.

Yeah, a lot of them don't deserve some of the childhoods they wen't through, but there's two ways they can go about it. They can let it turn them into a monster (insecurity issues and projecting them outwardly on other people), or embracing it. The feminists want the later. To become strong powerful woman. For the earlier, it simply rationalizes an excuse for their behavior.

I've never been the type to take advantage of a person who gives off signs of being weak or damaged

I'm not calling you a liar, but I don't think this is the entire truth. We take advantage of woman everyday. Effective C+F in a sense could be a consider a biological "weakness" in woman. Or the fact that we know woman operate off pure emotions. Nearly all pick-up material plays to this theory. We override any kind of logic they may have and take advantage of their biggest weakness ever, their emotions.

which is why I never bothered meeting chicks off POF. I already knew they have serious issues and watching the videos I saw made me think of many of them and I actually felt sorry for these chicks.

Don't. These girls are not incapable of being amoral b!tches. I'm sure they've turned down guys who weren't "good enough" or "too nice". They are still bound by the laws of every other woman. And hey, isn't that what equality is all about?

All I'm saying is don't start growing a soft spot for women who seem to be "different" or feel sorry for them in anyway, because that is when you will truly get a rude awakening.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If her parents neglected her, chances are she will do the same to you, and she'll be bound by dysfunctional relationships her whole life. There's plenty of BPD material here to read up on.

Besides, most of these documentaries are about HS girls. Everyone has it a little rough in HS. Aside from education and the marks you got, what you did or didn't do in HS doesn't mean a damn thing.

-Scars

 

[ScottMustaine]

I'm not calling you a liar, but I don't think this is the entire truth. We take advantage of woman everyday. Effective C+F in a sense could be a consider a biological "weakness" in woman. Or the fact that we know woman operate off pure emotions. Nearly all pick-up material plays to this theory. We override any kind of logic they may have and take advantage of their biggest weakness ever, their emotions.




-Scars

It's not like women don't use our weakness to get us... In love and war everything is allowed they say.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Talk about too much time on your hands! Bullied women? You mean they were never battered or worse, but still want to portray themselves as victims?

That said, it's true that people have been through more than you think - look at the middle class for example.

I browse at times on youtube looking up documentaries to watch on the spot. I wound up seeing those videos made by teens in their rooms. A lot of them went through some seriously fvcked up sh1t.

Some abused by parents, older dudes, relatives, constantly made fun of in school, on the net etc.

It should make some dudes stop and think about why some chicks may act the way they do or turn out later in life.

I'm not saying to white knight these chicks. I'm saying to possibly try to understand some of their actions may be due to some serious sh1t they've went through in life that may not be the result of you or something you or I would be able to help them with should we meet them in everyday life.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I posted a reply and lost it about how men are bullied in school and even college by men and women and no one ever cared. I'll make it short.

Women on POF get enough validation in a week to fix their self esteem. Men get nothing. Women don't want understanding. They want hot guys and be hypergamous. It's men who mostly have the psycholigical scars from societ's bullying, and no one cares or understands least of all women. Men have try to mask their injuries or be even further shunned.

I don't use or abuse women, but I have no sympathy for any adult woman.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

There is a movement going on right now regarding bullying, especially online bullying. I'd imagine it's also sparked by the feminists and other similar activists as nearly all these types of stories involve young women.

Yeah, a lot of them don't deserve some of the childhoods they wen't through, but there's two ways they can go about it. They can let it turn them into a monster (insecurity issues and projecting them outwardly on other people), or embracing it. The feminists want the later. To become strong powerful woman. For the earlier, it simply rationalizes an excuse for their behavior.



I'm not calling you a liar, but I don't think this is the entire truth. We take advantage of woman everyday. Effective C+F in a sense could be a consider a biological "weakness" in woman. Or the fact that we know woman operate off pure emotions. Nearly all pick-up material plays to this theory. We override any kind of logic they may have and take advantage of their biggest weakness ever, their emotions.



Don't. These girls are not incapable of being amoral b!tches. I'm sure they've turned down guys who weren't "good enough" or "too nice". They are still bound by the laws of every other woman. And hey, isn't that what equality is all about?

All I'm saying is don't start growing a soft spot for women who seem to be "different" or feel sorry for them in anyway, because that is when you will truly get a rude awakening.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If her parents neglected her, chances are she will do the same to you, and she'll be bound by dysfunctional relationships her whole life. There's plenty of BPD material here to read up on.

Besides, most of these documentaries are about HS girls. Everyone has it a little rough in HS. Aside from education and the marks you got, what you did or didn't do in HS doesn't mean a damn thing.

-Scars

Some of these chicks had it way worse than a little rough in grammar and high school.

I'm not talking about white knighting and I'm not about to take advantage of a damaged chick either.

 

[Scars]

Some of these chicks had it way worse than a little rough in grammar and high school.

I'm not talking about white knighting and I'm not about to take advantage of a damaged chick either.

True. Everyone has a moral compass that directs them differently.

However, I've known plenty of woman with rough childhoods. A lot of times it wasn't their fault. Sexual abuse, rape, molestation, physical abuse, drug use, parental neglect, etc.. All things that no child ever wants or asks for.

Yet, these are the same chicks who inhabit POF. They're the attention wh0res in night clubs, they're the ones posting silly BS on FB. They had bad childhoods, and now they're acting out. I feel bad for what happened to them, sure, but it doesn't excuse their behavior.

My BPD ex is a prime example. She had a rough childhood. It started out me feeling sorry for her. Then it went into me wanting to understand her. Then it moved to me wanting to save her. Then eventually, she crushed my soul.

I don't think you're trying to be a white knight, I'm just warning other readers of the dangers. Because it never starts off with you WANTING to be a white knight, it usually starts off with sympathy and it evolves it's ugly head from there.

-Scars

 

[ScottMustaine]

I posted a reply and lost it about how men are bullied in school and even college by men and women and no one ever cared. I'll make it short.

Women on POF get enough validation in a week to fix their self esteem. Men get nothing. Women don't want understanding. They want hot guys and be hypergamous. It's men who mostly have the psycholigical scars from societ's bullying, and no one cares or understands least of all women. Men have try to mask their injuries or be even further shunned.

I don't use or abuse women, but I have no sympathy for any adult woman.

I don't like showing off my history. But since I did in my own thread Ill copypasta here too.

"
My father tried to kill me with a knife, I was raised as a lonewolf, there was no single person to help me cope with the trauma, suicidal thoughts, agressions, fears. All by myself and playing guitar to calm myself. Psychologist asked me how come I didn't end up like other cases who would come with a gun and kill people. I wouldn't see mom that much ,grandma was/is cold and whiney al lthe time.

Had no friends, was bullied all the time in school by 'mini gangs' "



My self esteem got down, badly, I was afraid to even say hi to girl. Year after this site, I have no problems.


Yes, history haunts me, I hate it because it happened. I can't change it, it made me a lot stronger person and I use it as an advantage for every time I feel down about something I remind myself how I was strong back then.


You don't see me cheating, lying, whoring around, mood swinging with women.

Sure thing I started talking A LOT. And facebook was my first step to communicate with people, before trying irl. Since then I got around 2000 people, I learned how to fight people over internet and then irl.


Some might say because I post links on FB a lot that I'm attention whoring, but does putting a music video clip boost your ego like being told you are sexy?


Bull****. I'm sick of people not wanting to change, they will rather be looked down with 'aww you poor thing' than grabbing their balls and doing something in their ****ing life. It angers me so much I'd kill them for being pussies.


It's some kind of blessing sometimes, it roughens you up. People like *****ing around such things because they get attention and more tollerance.


They are evil.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I posted a reply and lost it about how men are bullied in school and even college by men and women and no one ever cared. I'll make it short.

Women on POF get enough validation in a week to fix their self esteem. Men get nothing. Women don't want understanding. They want hot guys and be hypergamous. It's men who mostly have the psycholigical scars from societ's bullying, and no one cares or understands least of all women. Men have try to mask their injuries or be even further shunned.

I don't use or abuse women, but I have no sympathy for any adult woman.

You get three choices:

Either

1)White knight these chicks.

2) take advantage of them. (Never an option for me)

3) Or leave them alone and not become a victim of the victim.

I choose to leave them alone because IMO I do not believe these people who've had a bad life and let it destroy them can be helped by someone who's had a normal life. These types need to overcome their problems on their own with some serious professional help or no matter what you do or how good you are to them they simply have no idea what it's like to be treated good and rebel against it and you as if the big crushing blow to them will come at any moment. They'll only wind up dragging you down. Not saying it's their fault but if you aren't a professional you or I are simply not equipped to deal with the demons inside them no matter how good we are to them thinking it will help.

 

[JCRoberts]

We should never treat hotties the wrong way. But if a relationship should end, we should leave them better than they were when we found them.

JC

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I don't like showing off my history. But since I did in my own thread Ill copypasta here too.

"
My father tried to kill me with a knife, I was raised as a lonewolf, there was no single person to help me cope with the trauma, suicidal thoughts, agressions, fears. All by myself and playing guitar to calm myself. Psychologist asked me how come I didn't end up like other cases who would come with a gun and kill people. I wouldn't see mom that much ,grandma was/is cold and whiney al lthe time.

Had no friends, was bullied all the time in school by 'mini gangs' "



My self esteem got down, badly, I was afraid to even say hi to girl. Year after this site, I have no problems.

Yes, history haunts me, I hate it because it happened. I can't change it, it made me a lot stronger person and I use it as an advantage for every time I feel down about something I remind myself how I was strong back then.


You don't see me cheating, lying, whoring around, mood swinging with women.

Sure thing I started talking A LOT. And facebook was my first step to communicate with people, before trying irl. Since then I got around 2000 people, I learned how to fight people over internet and then irl.


Some might say because I post links on FB a lot that I'm attention whoring, but does putting a music video clip boost your ego like being told you are sexy?


Bull****. I'm sick of people not wanting to change, they will rather be looked down with 'aww you poor thing' than grabbing their balls and doing something in their ****ing life. It angers me so much I'd kill them for being pussies.


It's some kind of blessing sometimes, it roughens you up. People like *****ing around such things because they get attention and more tollerance.


They are evil.

I'd use caution with a lot of the "advice" that you read on this site as I'm not sure how mentally stable a lot of the dudes who post here are.

Some people may simply not know how to change or feel whatever changes, advice they were given didn't help. Now for those who are given common sense sound advice and refuse to even try it...Then it's on them.

 

[Burroughs]

checked out the videos

THIS WHOLE BULLY TREND IS FUGAYZI

This is just attention horing as sympathy seeking...welcome to 2012!

All chicks think they're being bullied if the hottest guy in the school isn't dating them.

If a girl breaks a nail she thinks she is bullied

If 3 low status guys asks her out she thinks she is bullied

sorry this girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ePF7WliDI&feature=related could have tons of guys looking to date her in a minute...maybe not the alpha quarterback but booo hooo..this looks like an audition clip for fvcking dawson's creek.

the real lonely ones are fat nerd boys...those dudes are really alone...but in our society males are disposable so they suffer alone.

this girl has been through a lot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ZgYk18Lew&feature=related

but ask yourself...if she was ugly...would anyone care...least of all vinnie?

In our society do ugly men deserve to suffer?

oh and as a side note both these girls deserved to be repeatedly azzraped dumb cvnts..stealing from girl scouts losers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlNsJDnhWBk&feature=player_embedded#!

 

[DonJuanabe]

Sorry, I've experienced it too many times that women make sh*t up, blow reality out of the water, make themselves believe things that never happened. Can't take anything said in these videos at face value.

 

[Fly By Night]

There are women who actually go through this sh!t.

But, if you're attractive and put sympathetic videos on the internet... *switches to jeff foxworthy voice* YOUUUUU MIGHT BE AN ATTENTION WH0RE.

 

[DonJuanabe]

Plenty of guys go through this and then, when they have to get the balls to try to ask women out, they get treated like garbage by these very attractive girls who lament overblowing how people mistreated them as teenagers.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

checked out the videos

THIS WHOLE BULLY TREND IS FUGAYZI

This is just attention horing as sympathy seeking...welcome to 2012!

All chicks think they're being bullied if the hottest guy in the school isn't dating them.

If a girl breaks a nail she thinks she is bullied

If 3 low status guys asks her out she thinks she is bullied

sorry this girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ePF7WliDI&feature=related could have tons of guys looking to date her in a minute...maybe not the alpha quarterback but booo hooo..this looks like an audition clip for fvcking dawson's creek.

the real lonely ones are fat nerd boys...those dudes are really alone...but in our society males are disposable so they suffer alone.

this girl has been through a lot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ZgYk18Lew&feature=related

but ask yourself...if she was ugly...would anyone care...least of all vinnie?

In our society do ugly men deserve to suffer?

oh and as a side note both these girls deserved to be repeatedly azzraped dumb cvnts..stealing from girl scouts losers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlNsJDnhWBk&feature=player_embedded#!

A few of those chicks I was like: "WTF?". Those were the types of chicks when I was younger I'd be too shy to talk to and they'd most likely be in "love" with the popular, 'hawt' dudes. Yet I doubt they'd make up the stuff they're writing and post it in a video for the world to see. I think a lot of them are in counseling.

Even if I wasn't their type at that age I'd still feel bad for them and not bother tripping over myself regardless trying to be some chump shoulder to cry on.

Though I would find it interesting seeing they are working on their issues to see who they seek out in life. (I'd be willing to bet 99.999% go for the same dudes who would treat them like crap regardless.) Which is why I'd have no use other than to feel bad for them. It made me think about if they'll be taught or learn that they don't need a fantasy version of the "perfect" person in life to complete them as if they aren't supposed to be complete themselves before meeting someone for them.

 

[Burroughs]

Though I would find it interesting seeing they are working on their issues to see who they seek out in life. (I'd be willing to bet 99.999% go for the same dudes who would treat them like crap regardless.) Which is why I'd have no use other than to feel bad for them. It made me think about if they'll either be taught that they don't need a fantasy version of the "perfect" person in life to complete them as if they aren't supposed to be complete themselves before meeting someone for them

I come from the world of indie rock 90% of the dudes that play rock cut themselves, were on suicide watch, my bass player even had the baker act pulled on him like that second chick....you know what the male friends I know do?

they deal with it.

why?

cause almost without exception women don't give a fvck about men's problems...i've seen it time and time again.

And I say its high time we as men say to these masses of overpriveleged, under caring, arrogant, attention hores...you wanna kill yourself...good...get the fvck outta here!

Why?

Cause these same imbalanced cvnts are either looking for the fvcked up bad boy (thats me usually) or Mr twilight billionaire boy...they don't want a normal 9/5 dude to care about them..they WILL CUT THAT GUY TO SHREDS..

most of these girls don't have the slightest clue that the only reason any boys give a fvck about them is that they are hot...period end of story....just imagine what ugly people with problems go through

I bet a fair amount of the hotties are just making it up just for the attention...

those videos mannnnn...that is straight attention whoring circa 2012!.....complete fugayzi

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I come from the world of indie rock 90% of the dudes that play rock cut themselves, were on suicide watch, my bass player even had the baker act pulled on him like that second chick....you know what the male friends I know do?

they deal with it.

why?

cause almost without exception women don't give a fvck about men's problems...i've seen it time and time again.

And I say its high time we as men say to these masses of overpriveleged, under caring, arrogant, attention hores...you wanna kill yourself...good...get the fvck outta here!

Why?

Cause these same imbalanced cvnts are either looking for the fvcked up bad boy (thats me usually) or Mr twilight billionaire boy...they don't want a normal 9/5 dude to care about them..they WILL CUT THAT GUY TO SHREDS..

most of these girls don't have the slightest clue that the only reason any boys give a fvck about them is that they are hot...period end of story....just imagine what ugly people with problems go through

I bet a fair amount of the hotties are just making it up just for the attention...

those videos mannnnn...that is straight attention whoring circa 2012!.....complete fugayzi

Putting up videos saying they were raped or abused by their parents, siblings, relatives, cutting etc shows there is a problem. Even if it's just for attention.

I could care less if women could care less about my problems. Why? Because I don't need them to. I don't rely on any chick for validation or need to complete me let alone give me sound advice. (Too many people are out for self these days. I've realized that a long time ago and have seen it over and over again.)

The more chicks are attention wh0ring, or even if true in what they claim only goes to show that chicks need men. And they need help. Even if it isn't mine.

My last ex had serious issues. I never tried to "help" her as I knew it would just backfire. I simply knew I couldn't control hers nor anyones actions. And when I decided I had enough of the nonsense I simply left. Without a trace. Not contacting or replying in any way shape or form when I left.

I found out later on (as she knew my dad that she'd gotten married. Always wanted me to marry her and had several of her friends ask me to marry her. Fvck that. I knew better.)

And when I found out she'd gotten married? I thanked God it wasn't me. I wasn't going to be a victim of a victim. Frig that.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Its true that the most of the disorders that these damaged women have will produce 2-3x the damage that they received over time. Its almost exponential, the cycle of abuse.

Anyway, its very important to be a caring, understanding person towards all people. HOWEVER, you better be careful with these chicks because they will use stories from their past to suck you into an emotional codependency where you are trying to save them and making excuses for their abuse towards YOU...sometimes subconsciously sometimes consciously(yes some are that sick).

^^^100% correct.^^^


Not only that but I believe even if the abuse they took came from other chicks (jealously) and not dudes doesn't mean they still would "respect" a guy who isn't their "perfect" vision of whom most chicks feel the need to be "completed" by let alone if they found their perfect ten man. I doubt these abused chicks as bad as I feel for them (even if they weren't abused) or really were, would ever be secure enough to not take for granted a good dude and either friend zone him or worse tear his life apart taking venting and taking out their issues on him.

Just because they may've been truly abused doesn't mean they won't ever become abusers or would ever self reflect and seek out a good person whom they wouldn't abuse themselves.

It's messed up but they are best to be avoided for relationships and in a lot of cases friendship. Most will only drag you down with them and they can't help it. They only know chaos and abuse. No matter what you try or do they can't accept it.

Now I know it wouldn't go over well with most people seeing you as "shunning" people like them but you'll only get messed up in the end yourself. I don't see any positives in keeping relationships or friendships with the abused. As messed up as it sounds.