If the quality of women goes down as you get older, why do a lot of you say to get married WAY later

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

It's something I noticed. Some of you say to never get married, and if you do, have it done WAY later in life, like in your 40s or 50s or something that most folks would deem as outrageous. But I also see how many of you also say that women are better when they're younger, because they're more innocent, have less of a body count, and you're likely still able to top her high score list. So the question is, why get married super late if women are much better early on?

 

[Good Gao]

This forum leaves on the fantasy that guys in their 30s can get hot quality girls in their early 20s but that is all a fantasy. Hot girls in their early 20s are too tied up in their social circles to go out with an older guy, it would completely wreck their reputation among their group.

That being said, the guys who end up on these forums are not Chads or younger guys who have the value these girls want.

Most young hot girls want the trust fund baby, pretty boy from a wealthy family, party animal, and at worst a bad boy on the wrong side of the law who can offer them excitement. So much of game at these ages (high school and college) revolves around being popular in your social circles and having hot girls pick up on that. For guys who are popular at these ages, it is ideal to get married early because they have the best options.

The issue is, a lot of the guys on this forum are either socially awkward late bloomers who weren't popular or they grew up poor to where they were not around a lot of hot girls to begin with (hot girls in the west are found in suburban and wealthier areas, not ghettos). For these guys who came up in tough circumstances, the best decision to make is:

1. Max out your value over the years (money, health, status, and game) to where you are at your peak.

2. Move out of your ****ty neighborhood or a$$backwards town and to a big city.

3. Play the field.

Now what you are doing even when you are 30 is attracting the best women out there and those who will be a good fit for you.

 

[SteR]

^There is a lot of projection in his post. What he should have said was "I am socially awkward and not the type of guy who gets laid" instead of "most guys here are socially awkward and can't get laid." Seriously, when I was in social circles in SF with 8's, 9's, and 10's, any cool guy who was a 7 and up got laid (and frequently). The fact that you think it is so impossible means you are a bottom of the barrel guy. Don't project your own limitations onto other people. I can see right through your frame.

Honestly, I haven't seen much in this forum about guys telling other guys when to get married. But I have seen guys saying that if you have perfect chemistry with a girl, then wife her down. But that is rare.....like serendipity level rare.

Haha, came in to post the same. I had great success with younger girls as soon as I got into my 30s (couldn't believe it myself at the time). Good Gao doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[bigneil]

This forum (lives) on the fantasy that guys in their 30s can get hot quality girls in their early 20s but that is all a fantasy.

This is absolutely the purest, most unadulterated BS ever uttered on the forum.

Most young hot girls want the trust fund baby, pretty boy from a wealthy family, party animal, and at worst a bad boy on the wrong side of the law who can offer them excitement. ou.

Indeed, most women want men in the .000000001 percentile. They settle for older guys with money instead.

It's something I noticed. Some of you say to never get married, and if you do, have it done WAY later in life, like in your 40s or 50s or something that most folks would deem as outrageous. But I also see how many of you also say that women are better when they're younger, because they're more innocent, have less of a body count, and you're likely still able to top her high score list. So the question is, why get married super late if women are much better early on?

Are you understanding the much younger woman thing now?

Given how fast women fade, how suddenly their feelings can change no matter what you do, and how much men get screwed in marriage, I will never get married and am resigning myself to the fact I will probably keep dating 20 year old women until I'm 70.

 

[bigneil]

Good Gao = Listen To Olly

Haha, came in to post the same. I had great success with younger girls as soon as I got into my 30s (couldn't believe it myself at the time). Good Gao doesn't know what he's talking about.

I had my most success with women in their 20's starting at age 41. I am dating a new 20 year old after ending my relationship with the 21 year old, who had just got too old for me.

 

[zekko]

I would say never get married.

But I wonder why women over 30 are considered bad partners, when the PUA story says that they bang alphas in their 20s, and then settle down in their 30s. I guess it's because by then they are damaged, supposedly, and that they are "settling". And because most guys here imagine themselves to be some sort of alpha.

But given the choice between those two, would you rather marry a girl who is actively on the c0ck carousel, or one who is ready to settle down?

Guys in their 20s haven't generally hit their SMV peak yet. Young girls will date guys in their 30s all day.

 

[bigneil]

I would say never get married.

But I wonder why women over 30 are considered bad partners, when the PUA story says that they bang alphas in their 20s, and then settle down in their 30s. I guess it's because by then they are damaged, supposedly, and that they are "settling". And because most guys here imagine themselves to be some sort of alpha.

But given the choice between those two, would you rather marry a girl who is actively on the c0ck carousel, or one who is ready to settle down?

Guys in their 20s haven't generally hit their SMV peak yet. Young girls will date guys in their 30s all day.

The other day I asked my new 20 year old stripper "What are the rich guys your age like?" She said "Boring. And they don't get it. Like when I told you my story the night we met. I've never told any of them. They don't understand".

Strippers almost universally refer to these frat boys as "Spending daddy's money". They truly can't stand men like that. Think about it. Men are supposed to take care of women, but those guys make the women work and exploit them without ever having to grow up. Until you are willing to go out into the world and carry a suitcase to the point where you have blisters on your feet and callouses on your hands, you are not a man. Women feel their lack of power, in his attitude and his body. These boys are basically still nursing off mommy.

Sure, girls want a young, rich man, but there is no such thing. Only young, rich boys.

 

[bigneil]

Hot women want it all and they have the market power to get it, even if it requires multiple concurrent or overlapping men to do it. They want the mature guy but they also want the immature guy their age they can be immature with, etc. This is human nature and men that had the same bargaining power will usually do the same thing.

This is true. But if the SHTF, who will she take, the pretty boy with no money, or the established man with a survival bunker?

The welfare state is what enables women to have multiple tools for each use.

That's why I spend so much time working out. The only solution is to look good and have money, or she will sneak around on you. She will probably do that anyway. That's why we need multiple women at all times.

 

[Trainwreck]

I don't give a **** about. what some posters say. I rarely ever see an older guy with a younger girl. Now 30-38sh man with a 25-30sh woman is more understandable, but these extreme 40s man with college age women claims are ludicrous.

 

[bigneil]

I don't give a **** about. what some posters say. I rarely ever see an older guy with a younger girl. Now 30-38sh man with a 25-30sh woman is more understandable, but these extreme 40s man with college age women claims are ludicrous.

Quick, Olly - tell us what you personally see.

What do I see? Well, at 46 I just dated a 21 year old for 9 months, I ended it on my terms, and now I'm dating a 20 year old within a week. I had a 19 year old girl in November. All of them went on real dates. One fell in love. Granted, I look about 38 and she looks about 25. Many people came over - both on our first and last date - and said "You both make such an adorable couple - you are so in love".

2011 - I dated a 19 year old HB8 for 2.5 years.
2012 - I had a ONS with a 21 year old HB9.
2014 - I dated a 21 year old HB8 for 1.5 years.
2015 - I dated a 20 year old HB8 for .5 years.
2016 - Had a ONS with a 19 year old HB9 who was my FB friend for 6 months.
2017 - I dated a 21 year old HB9 for .75 years.
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[bigneil]

And this week I started dating a new HB8+ 20 year old. Does Olly, I mean Good Gao, I mean Trainwreck, I mean Olivia see this photo?

 

[Desdinova]

So the question is, why get married super late if women are much better early on?

You're assuming that we should marry women who are close to our age. Who made this rule that we must date someone who was born in our generation?

This forum leaves on the fantasy that guys in their 30s can get hot quality girls in their early 20s but that is all a fantasy.

Then I must be living your fantasy.

But I wonder why women over 30 are considered bad partners, when the PUA story says that they bang alphas in their 20s, and then settle down in their 30s.

It's because of their ticking biological clock. When they enter their 30s, they want kids. The problem with dating a woman in her 30s is her time is limited. She's going to want kids within the first couple years of being with you. You have absolutely no time to get to know her, and no time for her to make your life hers.

When you're with a woman in her 20s, you have time to spend with her before you decide if she's going to make a suitable mother and partner. If you're dating someone who's 21, you've got a good solid six years to spend with her until she starts pushing for a baby. If you date a woman who's 33 years old, she's going to progress the relationship as quickly as possible to make you comfortable enough to have a baby with her. After she gets what she wants, you become an afterthought.

A woman who's spent six or more years with you is not going to make you an afterthought after she has a baby. If you've done things correctly, she will have built her life on your terms. Being with you is just part of life.

But given the choice between those two, would you rather marry a girl who is actively on the c0ck carousel, or one who is ready to settle down?

My choice is to get a woman before she starts riding the c0ck carousel and prevent it from happening.

I rarely ever see an older guy with a younger girl. Now 30-38sh man with a 25-30sh woman is more understandable, but these extreme 40s man with college age women claims are ludicrous.

That's because society convinces men that they are inadequate at attracting younger women due to their age alone. If society quit telling men that a young woman dating an older man is creepy, you would see it more. Instead, men take that criticism to heart and continue looking for damaged women in their age group to date and settle down with.

 

[El Payaso]

Because as an older man, you can date and marry a younger women.

 

[RangerMIke]

I date women in their 20s... for me it never lasts more than 3 months, typically much less than that. To them, a dude my age is a novelty, something to talk about with their friends. I am their 'older man' life experience. Which is fine with me. Sometimes they drift back for the occasional hook-up, but usually they just move on to the next bright shiny object dangled in front of them... they are like easily distracted kittens.

BTW never get married. Date who you want, the older the women the longer it lasts, but it ALWAYS has to end, either that or you as a man will put at risk your mental health and emotional stability.

 

[devilkingx2]

But I wonder why women over 30 are considered bad partners, when the PUA story says that they bang alphas in their 20s, and then settle down in their 30s. I guess it's because by then they are damaged, supposedly, and that they are "settling". And because most guys here imagine themselves to be some sort of alpha.

But given the choice between those two, would you rather marry a girl who is actively on the c0ck carousel, or one who is ready to settle down?

rollo once did a post on his blog about a man who was married to his wife, who was kind of frigid and prudish, they didn't have sex that much, she wasn't that into it when they did have sex, and she wasn't very kinky (no anal for example)

he finds out that she kept a video tape stored away with some of her things, so he pops it into the player and finds out that in college she was the kind of girl who'd get gangbanged in all her holes by 4 random guys and let them video tape it for free.

so the idea is, given the choice between these two guys, which would you rather be? (the answer is most likely neither since I doubt most guys want to bang one girl with 3 other guys around, but absolutely no one would rather be the cuck who gets to marry her after everyone else is done having the fun that you don't get to have)

the idea is that the beta she gets to settle down with has the raw deal because usually she isn't all that attracted to him and worse, she has to trick him into thinking that she's some good innocent girl which means making him wait til date 5 and refusing to be very kinky

The other day I asked my new 20 year old stripper "What are the rich guys your age like?" She said "Boring. And they don't get it. Like when I told you my story the night we met. I've never told any of them. They don't understand".

protip: people who think they're so much more mature than everyone else their age are usually just like everyone else their age except with added pretension.

that, and girls who prefer way older men to the point of not liking men their age tend to have severe daddy issues, proceed with caution bro

 

[bigneil]

that, and girls who prefer way older men to the point of not liking men their age tend to have severe daddy issues, proceed with caution bro

True, but I got my last girl back with her daddy so that was a happy ending (for she and I both).

 

[bigneil]

True, but I got my last girl back with her daddy so that was a happy ending (for she and I both).

Often their Daddy issues are caused by their Mommy.

 

[AJ84]

I date women in their 20s... for me it never lasts more than 3 months, typically much less than that. To them, a dude my age is a novelty, something to talk about with their friends. I am their 'older man' life experience. Which is fine with me. Sometimes they drift back for the occasional hook-up, but usually they just move on to the next bright shiny object dangled in front of them... they are like easily distracted kittens.

BTW never get married. Date who you want, the older the women the longer it lasts, but it ALWAYS has to end, either that or you as a man will put at risk your mental health and emotional stability.

I think a lot of younger women like the idea of dating an older attractive man, but I don't see a trend where they marry men significantly older than them.

It's a win win for both people where the older guy gets to enjoy the younger woman and she gets to experience sex with who she will assume is an experienced man who knows what's he's doing in bed and someone who is mature and attentive. But when it comes to marriage and children, the majority of women in most parts of the world marry a man closer to their own age.

So the 40ish 50ish man has more dating options than marriage options in the 20ish women age group.

As an aside, a woman who takes care of herself will look good for longer and is less likely to fade at 30 than a 20 yr old Big Mac combo eating beer guzzling partier. My manager is 40, looks at least 10 yrs younger, is an avid runner, does yoga, eats clean, moderate drinker non smoker and she looks better than all the younger women in our dept myself included. Her very hot husband is 46 and looks mid thirties. Taking care of your body and putting an effort into your appearance is vital to looking good for a long time.

 

[bigneil]

I think a lot of younger women like the idea of dating an older attractive man, but I don't see a trend where they marry men significantly older than them.

Of course not. The average age difference in married couples is 4 years.

Men who can date women half their age don't usually marry those women. They are old enough to know that next year they'll want to trade her in for a new model (not because the girl will get fat, which she will, but because she will get moody, unfaithful and more demanding).

 

[Trump]

It's something I noticed. Some of you say to never get married, and if you do, have it done WAY later in life, like in your 40s or 50s or something that most folks would deem as outrageous. But I also see how many of you also say that women are better when they're younger, because they're more innocent, have less of a body count, and you're likely still able to top her high score list. So the question is, why get married super late if women are much better early on?

Bro, what does one thing have to do with another? Yes, women are better younger. Yes, if you are planning to get married, do it later. That has nothing to do with "get married early because women are better." Because woman are better in their 20s you have to sign a piece of paper to legally commit to them? You can easily have as much sex with them as possible when they are younger, doesn't mean you have to marry them.

We have never said "don't get married." We have said "get married if it benefits you." We have also never said "get married in your 40s or 50s." You can get married in your "20s and 30s" as long as it benefits you. Everything we say should benefit you before anyone else.