If so much pvzzy these days is being given out left and right..

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Alpha males is a dog thing, there's no evidence it applies to humans at all. Aggressive men like to feel special but may in fact not be very good at anything.

Most leaders are not known for their aggression. A leader needs to appeal to men and women and men don't follow men who are full of themselves.

Come to think of it, no woman worth ****ing would fall for it either.

Do you think Marilyn Monroe went around opening her legs for jug heads who pound their chests and proclaim themselves better than everyone else? Somehow I don't think she was that easily fooled.
 

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have to agree with op somewhat. using a few jedi mind tricks and playing a chess game doesnt show any superiority in a man. however...
you guys are too worried about unprovable facts and statistics about dating. theres more strawman arguments in here than in a religious debate. you saying ohh it wasnt this bad 10 years ago...lol its the same dance just a different tune.
theres a lot of subjectivity in dating not just a bunch of objective facts.
 

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I was reading an evo psych book a while ago and the author claimed that, according to DNA evidence, 40% of men vs 80% of women have reproduced. I think that's a realistic statistic now, too. The overlap, that it doesn't add up to 100%, is important - it means that not only are the top men shared by the top women, but the middling women are shared by the beta men while the bottom men and women get little or nothing. This gels with my experience.

In light of this, the sexual "revolution" was really a devolution.
 

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The411 said:
I've seen many pua vids on their buffoonish approaches and none of the chicks looked like anything I or most men who aren't desperate for pvzzy would approach to pick up.

Sounds like a lot of over compensating and delusions.
The guys I am talking about are definitely getting laid. But they don't seem to be too particular about who the girl is, as long as they're getting some. I've seen them get some nasty women I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, but then turn around and snag some genuine hotties. It's just whoever is available that night, as long as they get some.

I don't even think they consider themselves PUAs, they're not that bright. They're just focused on getting sex. I saw this one such dude I know text a girl he'd recently met "So when are we going to fvck?". It's a numbers game, and they can be charming in small doses. The girls they get may not be classy, but some of them are definitely pretty hot.
 

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I hung out with a PUA from Vegas two weeks ago and the girl he pulled that night was fug. He's a pretty decent looking guy too so I was shocked. It seems that most men have lowered their standards while most women haves raised their standards. Thanks social media!
 

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The411 said:
If so much pvzzy is being given out these days left and right, so many slores, h0es, hyper sexualized society etc..
Because it's not given out to everybody.
 

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Because as tits noted.....the poosy IS being given out for free.....IF you are the top men.


If you don't believe it, then you are not one of the top men.
That's nonsense.

True top men have much more going on in their lives than just scoring pvzzy.

They've got friends, family, sports, buisnesses, travelling, interviews, gym, hobbies, cars, bikes, plans, GF's, wives and on and on. Pvzzy comes last as it's easy for them.

I've known many dudes who could have practically any chick they wanted. Yet they picked one, or were busy building their own lives. It didn't revolve around being validated by how much they could score.

I've also known dudes who had nothing going for them who slept with trash chicks and got "more" azz but the quality was garbage and nothing no one else was "wanting for".

So who are these "top dudes"?

The sports stars? Hollywood stars whom have chicks throw themselves at them to try and get pregnant for child support? Or claim they were "raped"?

Most top dudes with a brain in their head know which ones to avoid as they've got better things to do then play nonsense and get themselves FVCKED for life.

I could say some dude who'll hit anything is a "top dude" because he sleeps with much more women then the dude who's got much more going for him, is much better looking and still has chicks after him but is smart enough and has standards then to count "lays" as proof he's a top dude.

That 80% 20% is ridiculous especially if you know many people from different races and all walks of life as well as many chicks. It's nothing more than some ridiculous rationalization for some peoples own need to validate their own foolish belief.
 

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The411 said:
That's nonsense.

True top men have much more going on in their lives than just scoring pvzzy.

They've got friends, family, sports, buisnesses, travelling, interviews, gym, hobbies, cars, bikes, plans, GF's, wives and on and on. Pvzzy comes last as it's easy for them.

I've known many dudes who could have practically any chick they wanted. Yet they picked one, or were busy building their own lives. It didn't revolve around being validated by how much they could score.

I've also known dudes who had nothing going for them who slept with trash chicks and got "more" azz but the quality was garbage and nothing no one else was "wanting for".

So who are these "top dudes"?

The sports stars? Hollywood stars whom have chicks throw themselves at them to try and get pregnant for child support? Or claim they were "raped"?

Most top dudes with a brain in their head know which ones to avoid as they've got better things to do then play nonsense and get themselves FVCKED for life.

I could say some dude who'll hit anything is a "top dude" because he sleeps with much more women then the dude who's got much more going for him, is much better looking and still has chicks after him but is smart enough and has standards then to count "lays" as proof he's a top dude.

That 80% 20% is ridiculous especially if you know many people from different races and all walks of life as well as many chicks. It's nothing more than some ridiculous rationalization for some peoples own need to validate their own foolish belief.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :mad: :mad: :mad: Denial, it's not just a river in Egypt.

If you can't or won't grasp how hypergamy and the sexual market works you shouldn't even be giving men advice you phucking idiot. What are you even doing here if basic red pill sh!t sends you into a defensive crouch?
 

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Keep in mind we're talking about "attractive" women. They won't just fvck any dude, in fact the better looking they are the higher their standards (whatever that may be at the moment).

Also, men don't decide who women are attracted to. It could be the thug, business man, politician, banker, etc...
 

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:cry: :cry: :cry: :mad: :mad: :mad: Denial, it's not just a river in Egypt.

If you can't or won't grasp how hypergamy and the sexual market works you shouldn't even be giving men advice you phucking idiot. What are you even doing here if basic red pill sh!t sends you into a defensive crouch?

Ok. Every chick in the world is banging and tossing their pvzzies at the top 20% of men whom have nothing better to do than fvck everything in their path.

These same men on a daily basis are avoiding rape charges, financial losses, pregancies, the drama of all these women who are after them never running into one another and forgo life itself to simply bang and or deflect these masses of women lining up to fvck them.

These same women who are the 80% whom have nothing else going on in life but to fvck the top 20% of men (luckily enough once as theres no time for twice since these top 20% are too busy banging the rest of the world's population of women.)

I get it. If you don't follow the cult hive mind here you must not be like the top 20% of men who post here daily and go on never ending debates while at the same time banging and getting constant calls etc. to fvck the 80% of women with nothing else better to do then get fvcked by them.

That is of course while these top 20% of men and 80% of women are booking flights constantly to fvck each other from other countries, states etc.

Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny aren't real.
 

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The411 said:
Ok. Every chick in the world is banging and tossing their pvzzies at the top 20% of men whom have nothing better to do than fvck everything in their path.
The world

The world

The world

Lets move the goal posts and include the rest of the world into the Wests current obsession with women's rampant unrestrained hypergamy so you can attempt to win an argument and look less like a chode who's still stuck in the denial stage shall we?

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I get it. If you don't follow the cult hive mind here...
Gosh you're sooo edgy :rolleyes: A few random men confined to a small corner of the internet sharing likeminded views vs the rest of the modern world backed solely by gyno-TV and every other mainstream form of fem-centric sh!tlib media and THIS is the "hivemind" to you? You rebel crusader you.
 

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I wouldn't get too anal about it. It's just a graph more for showing how the sexual market/unchained hypergamy works. The general consensus seems to be the 80/20 rule. I think it's closer to 90/10 myself.
Every chick at a University ain't banging the same 10 guys.
 

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Every chick at a University ain't banging the same 10 guys.
Like I said to that other dud/ette who's still in denial. This isn't the 1950's where each 4, 5 and 6 is equally matched up to her respective rule abiding, tax paying beta Joe. I would have thought the speed at which sites like this have been growing the last couple of decades would have tipped you off. No? The soaring levels of thirsty frustrated western men still not a dead giveaway?

Btw you do realize the number 10 as a percentage is different to literally 10 men yeah?
 

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Like I said to that other dud/ette who's still in denial. This isn't the 1950's where each 4, 5 and 6 is equally matched up to her respective rule abiding, tax paying beta Joe. I would have thought the speed at which sites like this have been growing the last couple of decades would have tipped you off. No? The soaring levels of thirsty frustrated western men still not a dead giveaway?

Btw you do realize the number 10 as a percentage is different to literally 10 men yeah?

If those 10 guys are the 10 best at the University every chick is banging them with your reasoning yeah?
 

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I think that there is some confusion over the "80:20 rule" that needs clarifying. The 80:20 rule does not stand for the proposition that 80% of all girls fvck top 20% of guys. Rather, it stands for the proposition that 80% of women feel that they are entitled to fvck a top 20% guy. When an average-looking chick meets such a guy, and for whatever reason he is willing to entertain her (usually, the reason is beer googles or a dry spell), she will spread her legs faster than a ghetto single mom cashes her welfare check. This is a typical scenario that people conceptualize when they think of hypergamy.

This actually does not happen as often as some people think, because top 20% guys generally prefer to fvck chicks who are in their league. However, it does happen occasionally, and it does spoil women who think that just because some drunk "hot guy" reamed her out in an alley behind the club (because nothing better was available at the time), she is now entitled to have a "hot guy" as a boyfriend. Of course, this never happens, and at best she gets pumped and dumped every now and then, which turns her into bitter "where did all the good men go?" type. As for the average guy, he still gets laid occasionally, but much less frequently than he would have otherwise, since average-looking girls are now all chasing after hot guys.

So, to summarize: pvssy gets thrown at hot guys only; most of the time they don't want it; average guys don't get laid very often and end up with whatever they can get.
 

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Like I said to that other dud/ette who's still in denial. This isn't the 1950's where each 4, 5 and 6 is equally matched up to her respective rule abiding, tax paying beta Joe. I would have thought the speed at which sites like this have been growing the last couple of decades would have tipped you off.

Btw you do realize the number 10 as a percentage is different to literally 10 men yeah?

( . ) ( . ) and Co. need to rationalize their own lack of getting pvzzy in abundance in an effort to seem more "alpha" along with the rest of the Manosphincter nerds by being scientists "in the know".

As if every chick in this 80% has to be going for these top 20% of males and giving it up to them everywhere they go. (No ONE EVER sees hot chicks with average dudes or even dudes thae look like WTF is she doing with THAT dude? Nah. They've gotta be settling for them..)

These are the same dudes who then claim that every woman past 30-35 has been banged out by these same 20% of men most of their lives and no one wants them but these beta providers whom they all settle for. It's nerd revenge fantasies and justification for their own failures in life.


You've got major celebrities who've gotten or claimed high numbers.

Hugh Hefner -old rich provider dude

Ron Jeremy - overweight ugly porn star.

Gene Simmons -Old rock star who banged coked out groupies.

Wilt Chamberlain

Charlie Sheen -Train wreck Charlie

Fidel Castro - Whom most likely they had to or else.

Sultans

and others I've forgot.

None of these are "top 20% other than fame, power, and money". And I'm sure most would agree they could care less about them let alone want to be them. There's much better looking dudes out there who get FAR less then these dudes but yet you could consider the above list "top 20%" based off lay counts alone and anyone else you know below that.

Perhaps these same dudes who believe that all these top 20% in whatever venue are banging or getting the pzzy thrown at them from 80% of women are the same dudes who feel deep inside that whenever they get a girlfriend she's settling for them.
 

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( . ) ( . ) and Co. need to rationalize their own lack of getting pvzzy in abundance in an effort to seem more "alpha" along with the rest of the Manosphincter nerds by being scientists "in the know".
And titty man gently coaxes the real feeelz out once again :rockon:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2054241&postcount=1

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2182526&postcount=5

130 posts (5.19 posts per day) this time before the "I hate the manosphere" flip out? You're getting better.
 

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