I like the analogy with soccer because it is acurate. Lingering is most of daygame, looking for the good approaches to make. I've had 1 hour approach sessions where I did 0 approaches and 2 hour ones where I got no more than 2 approaches done. Most women are not very approachable. I've not been a spam approachers and I don't want to deal with the aggravation of harsh blowouts.
A lot of the taken women you approach won't directly say that they are taken. A lot of these interactions are the ones that fizzle out in 30-60 seconds. The woman doesn't want to talk at all. I find that most daygame conversations go nowhere.
Below is what an uncalibrated approach session looks like.
This is some daygame student doing approach sessions in Dallas. I can tell he's a relative novice by some of his conversations. I recognize most of the spots and I have done approach sessions in similar spots.
He's doing mainly Torero style approaches on the street, in parks, and on walking paths. Doesn't look for IOIs prior to approach. Approached numerous women with earbuds in and less than ideal body language, which led to more rejections.
He got a good situation with the woman he approached at 8:36, lasts until 10:13. He approached her from behind, which is a bit uncalibrated.
This is not an approach that an experienced non-bar approacher would do.
The woman at 5:49-6:52 had some of the best pre-approach proxemics but was playing on her phone. Didn't show openness to an approach.
I probably wouldn't have approached due to that and wasn't surprised when he got another polite blowoff, that of the IHAB variety. I don't get IHAB'ed all too much because I tend to use more sniper game.
The approach from 7:30-8:30 was a typical Dallas female blowoff. Dallas females are often skilled at giving non-confrontational rejections.
This was an actual approach worth doing.
He got numbers at 14:40-15:59 (weak ask for a coffee date) and 17:12-19:04. Both were approaches from behind. The woman at 17:12 had earbuds in and a hat on, which are usually indicators in disinterest.
Neither approach is one I would have done.
This guy gets IHAB'ed multiple times in approaching on multiple approaches and he doesn't use boyfriend destroyer lines or push back all too much.
IHAB #1: In the approach from 7:30-8:30, the guy did a good approach on the tall-ish woman (I'd estimate she was in the 5'7"-5'8" range) on an urban residential street as he approached her from the front.
Overall, this is an approach was worth doing. Opened with "Hey, sorry, this is random but I thought you were very pretty." Yes, no shiit, she is attractive. But not "very pretty". He could have opened if he had nothing based on the tie dye and black pair of shorts she selected. If he opened with "I'm impressed with the pattern and colors on the shorts you're wearing. What made you choose to buy that pair of shorts compared to others you might have seen that day?", then you have some basis for the beginning of an extended conversation. Some women would give an unimpressive answer, which means she's not at all interested or has a bad personality, neither of which is good. Then, you can transition the conversation thread to a frame like Roosh's GALNUC from "Day Bang" or some other topical thread that would lead to a date agreement in approximately 5 minutes of talking (if going well) or the conversation fizzles out before the ask of a date. One of the reasons a conversation can fizzle out before the ask of a date is that the woman has a boyfriend. A lot of women with boyfriends are not talkative because they don't need to socialize when they are actively receiving penis. That was a shiit approach on all levels because he opened with pedestalization and asked for a number within 1 minute (unless video was edited). The boyfriend she cites may or may not be real, I'm less inclined to think this boyfriend was real.
IHAB #2: The woman at 5:49-6:52 was alone on a park/street bench and had an open space next to her. Unfortunately, her face was in her phone at the beginning of the approach, indicating that she's occupied with something else and not open to being approached. Women without boyfriends are not going to have their face down in a phone on a park bench if they are serious about meeting men. Everything about her pre-approach behavior indicated that this wasn't an approach worth doing.
IHAB #3: The approach from 20:31 to 22:16 was done on Dallas' most notable walking path for daygame. I have daygamed this location many times. There have been times I've done 2 hour approach sessions on weekends on this walking path and approached no one simply because there were no valid approach opportunities. This walking path has both sufficient foot traffic and demographically targeted traffic. Most women on this path are 21-34 and unmarried. However, the biggest problem with this path is the overuse of headphones/earbuds. There are way too many yuppie, college educated White women using headphones/earbuds on this path. The guy in the video approached too many women wearing earbuds, including the one at 20:31-22:16. She was nice about the rejection as a lot of Dallas women will be if the guy is reasonably good looking. She did say at 22:07 that she was "kinda seeing someone" so that tells me she has a weak, early stage relationship and that the guy approaching had weak game.
Overall, this was not an approach worth doing because of the earbuds.
Getting numbers is not all that meaningful. The more meaningful occurrence is having those numbers turn into dates. The most meaningful occurrences is having those dates turn into sex at some point. There's a good chance that at least 2 of those 3 numbers did not result in a date, and possible all 3 were flakes.
I know 30% of my approaches don't result in numbers and I am selective in who I approach. That would be really good. My later metrics are likely similar to yours.
Even with elite level results, which mine are not, I would say that this would serve as a reason to have extended relationships. It takes a lot of time to put in all those approaches. I don't think it's worth all that time just to produce a one night stand.
Nice! Getting sex from a non-bar approach is an awesome feeling.
Yes, that's true. It's a tough path to follow. That's why non-bar approaching is a niche activity. Most men don't have the guts to do it sober and deal with the rejections and the conversations that go nowhere.
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