I told off and hung up on an HB9

Bvbidd

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Okay.. but the whole point was he doesn't need to stand up for himself or argue.

I know it's sexist but this can apply it to guys to.. if you know your right and they are retarded why feel the need to prove yourself? It's like fighting with a little kid, it's pointless.

If he instead just made fun of her, like brought up something she did that was stupid and made her laugh with him. He'd get the *****.

No need to ever tell off or confront a girl, unless of course you want them to see you as less then themselves.

Like when you said this: -me: also, are you saying you're smarter than me or that i'm stupid? that's pretty insulting. what is your deal? i am just trying to have a nice conversation and you are insulting me? you have a lot of problems ....... that's just rude. i should just hang up on you.

Yelling at her getting all *****y and calling her rude...

This shouldn't be a technique or skill.. if you truly thought of yourself as equal or better then her you would just smile and make fun of her automaticly.
 

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Bad Move. Bad Move.

Don't argue with girls, man. If she cancels or flakes, just invite another girl. Or go out with buds. Or just go out alone and pick up more chicks. You do have more girls in your phone rotation, don't you?? You look needy and immature when you flip your lid. Now you know better, you know?

Wolf
 

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-her: name something, impress me. because right now i'm not feeling any attraction to you. say something.
From this moment on it wouldn't have mattered what you said. She's very immature and she was in a position of power by making you perform tricks like a puppy (as someone else mentioned). You shouldn't have even entertained the idea especially after the way she demanded it of you. Your anger fueled this girl because that's what most of them like, useless "drama".
 

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poohead said:
My inner game needs a lot of work, but I noticed a positive development in the past couple of weeks that at least i'm not taking any s*** from women. I need to integrate this into my personality so that it becomes a solid sense of personal boundaries and confidence. Right now i'm just lashing out whenever i feel like i'm being disrespected.
Yep, big sign of insecurity. The lashing out, I mean. Further on in your story I got the distinct impression that she had picked up on that and was pushing your buttons.

poohead said:
She is smart and attractive, but she is your typical AW. Extremely full of herself to compensate for her f*ckd up life and her insecurities.
Well, if that's the case then why are you bothering with her? Or are you just telling yourself this because you feel that you failed and that she got the better of you somehow?

poohead said:
She had changed after my display of AFC'ness. Now, whenever we talk I feel like she is throwing me sh*t test after sh*t test, I feel like she is trying really hard to disqualify me and I have to really think on my feet. To be honest I don't even like talking to her any more because of all the sh*t tests, it's just extremely annoying to me now and is quickly killing off any sense of attraction I had for this girl.
I think that this is the result she wants to achieve, unfortunately. Oftentimes girls like to take the indirect route, i.e. getting you to break up with her so she doesn't have to break up with you.

poohead said:
-funny, relaxed casual convo, but then I happen to say something that triggers an immediate negative reaction in this biatch: i told her that i think women like sex just as much as men do, that society has conditioned them that to acknowledge their sexuality is shameful, and that is why they pretend like they don't like sex as much as men do.
This is argumentative. Number one, by saying this you are insinuating that she is part of this. It might be true, but that doesn't mean you want to say it. Also, if it was a "funny, relaxed" conversation, then how did it turn combative so quickly?

poohead said:
-she flies off the handle, and tries to prove me wrong, argues this crap to death until i tell her that i don't even want to talk about it. of course i'm absolutely convinced i'm right and that she is brainwashed like most people, into believing the opposite is true.
Or she could have misunderstood your point, or you could have made it sound a bit different than you did here, maybe more salacious or even creepy. HOW you word and say things is just as important as what you're saying.

poohead said:
-she then decides to pick on another issue: i had told her my iq (it's genius level, supposedly) when we started talking. this girl is such a nut/control freak that, after that, she has tried to make it a point to prove to me that she is smarter than me.
Why did you do that? You know she's highly insecure and intelligent. Let's make an analogy. Imagine her insecurity is the ocean, her sense of well-being is the ocean liner that's pulling away, and that she fell overboard. Her intelligence is the life preserver somebody threw her. She clings to it to keep her afloat. If you try to take it away, she will fight you.

Oh, and nobody gives a flying f*ck what your IQ is. Mine's genius level too. You know how many times I've mentioned it? One time, in this post. It sounds like you're trying WAY too hard. If you're smart, people (especially women) will pick up on that.

poohead said:
-she says: are you sure you are in mensa? i'm smarter than you in everything.
-me: that's because you monopolize the conversation and only talk about what you know.
This was bad. She tossed out the bait and you took it, hook, line, and sinker. Are you sure you're a genius? When you acknowledge these tactics, you give them power.

poohead said:
-her: name something, impress me. because right now i'm not feeling any attraction to you. say something.
-me: what do you want me to say.
-her: say something to prove to me how smart you are, because you sure don't act like you're smart, i told you i'm smarter than you in everything.
-me: (getting pissed) ok - can you read music?
Big mistake. You never, ever let her piss you off. If she can piss you off, she knows she can control your emotions at will. You've given away some of your power.

poohead said:
-her: yes
-me: what is the natural minor of d major?
-her: i don't know.
-me: well that's at least one subject that i am smarter than you in.
-her: (flying off the handle) that's it? you need to do a better job than that at impressing me.
-me: i have nothing to prove to you.
-her: you do if you want me to be attracted to you.
-me: (angry now) well if it involves me jumping through hoops or speaking some pretentious bullsh*t just to impress you, then no thanks. i don't care if you're attracted to me.
-her: (yelling some sh*t, i don't even hear it because i'm yelling some sh*t at her now.)
This is when your situation officially becomes FUBAR. F*cked Up Beyond All Repair (or recognition). While she sucks, you totally mismanaged the situation. We all do that though, just learn from it and move on. If I sounded harsh in the post, I don't mean it that way. It's tough love.
 

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You weren't going to get ther pvssy regardless, so it didn't matter what you said.
 

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oh you completly ****ed that one up buddy.... im kinda last on this post but basically what everyone else has said is good advice. remeber never loose your cool, or argue with a girl. especially about **** like that.
 

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what everyone else has said is good advice
You are a idiot, that's basically it.

Man, if there was so much more of this revolvationary advice running around, we'd be set for life! :crackup:
 

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The whole point is to get the CHICK feeling a wide range of emotions: anger, arousal, happiness, etc. But YOU remain in control and unphased, get it?
 

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Time to shed the light on this...

lets trace this back to the beginning....

You said something she didn't like...

Wait no that's not it...it goes back further than that....

She had already made up her mind that she wasn't interested....probably before you even called her.

She just took the opportunity to find a valid reason...that's all she was waiting for and you took the bait....

Women do this all the time....my roommate does this to my other roommate (they are a couple) all the time. They have no reason other than they want to argue. Especially if they are mad about something else....if you say 1 wrong thing and they jump on you for what seems like nothing...there is always something on the back burner fueling the fire.


My advice

Drop all communication with this girl....if you see her out and about don't ignore her but don't initiate anything either. NEXT!!!!!


:rockon:
 

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Just leave this gal alone and learn from it.

Trying to impress gals almost always has the opposite effect. If you do other things right, a gal will be impressed as a matter of course.

At least you didn't suck up to her. You did the 2nd best thing you could have done, next to simply calmly saying something to the the effect of: "Come off it: neither you nor I are smarter in everything than anyone who can speak a coherent sentence. We have no more to talk about. Goodbye."
 
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