I think it's harder to be a DJ if your black.

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Aztec
It is hard to DJ regardless of your race, period.


Couple of the guys mentioned location. Don't go to the same fishing hole if you are not catching any.


I hate to swerve to a sociopolitical discussion at all. Americans are still programmed to look at people outside his or her race oddly. Whether you like it or not, you know damn well it is the truth. But we're trying to better this.


Going back to location, that is one of the reasons why I'm moving out of Jersey and heading to S. CA.

Is that sacramento cali?? if so this is where I live!!! It would be wonderful to have someone in this town from this posting board.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Icepick

Most black guys that I know can be a real charmers, many times, charming the pants off of super-hot white girls!

sure ya right:

email from friend:

"LOL:LOL: Oh god baby boy you crack me up. Good thing your a smooth talker huh! God I want to kiss you soooo bad right now you ****in drive me crazy even through an e-mail.I'm glad you got your self out of it. You are still managing to avoid me question about April so I am going to tell you you better be in Santa Clara April 4th or I will hurt you real bad. Are you scared? hehehe Tell me yes just tell me yes baby just tell me" YES I WILL BE THERE" Baby think about, think about holding each other your lips on mine my ass in your hands as you take me the way only you can deep inside of me are bodies moving together are breathing in sinc and quivering until..........you got to show up and experience the rest personally (K)"

 

[Click Here]

well im white, my best friends black and he does fine. the area i live in like like 60/40 white black and he only dates white girls. i always seem to wander twords asians and latinas i dunno why it just happens? black ppl seem naturally more charming cause they say whats on there mind and they dont give a ****, you could see the ugliest black kid on the planet with the biggest smile on his face while ud see an average white kid sitting in a corner painting with his headphones blairing marylyn manson. diff culture produce diff ppl i think black ppl come with more balls naturally cause there parents raise them to be outspoken.

 

[Player_Supreme]

click here

Interesting! Most of it on point. I don't know about the being raised to be outspoken cause most parents tell you to shut the hell up...and you would get yo ass beat with electrical extention cords if you even tried to voice an opinion on anything.

When the great Ebonics debate was rolling around trying to keep black folks down...some idiots said that we as a race are more outspoken by nature...they used a study that showed that black kids in school were more prone to speak out of turn and not raise their hands.

I say after 400 hundred years of abuse, and it still continued and is still continuing how much can one race take without saying sumthin that's on they minds...(notice my code switch to ebonics).

There are cultural differences (yes we actually do have a culture left). And being outspoken in public is a natural trait, not a learned one. Where our ancestors came from public debate and discussion was used since the beginning of time....somethings don't die in just a few generations.

"my way toward the truth is to ask the right questions." Socrates

 

[RIchardo]

good debate, i do think the only problem is social pressures, but in my experiences i do see black individuals to be more outspoken, which is a quality i admire, and on a whole the black "player/dj" is more prevelant and adept at charming perhaps due to such cultural tendancies. Its basically saying the same thing as how the asian individuals are more reserved in manner and harder to dj because of such societal constraints. so i guess what it does come down to is culture.

 

[cootielicious]

Originally posted by myfriendblu
Actually thats not true. There have been studies shown that an adult male, regardless of his race, is looking to spread his DNA to different races in order to dominate the gene pool.

They did a big study about this. It was about why men are attracted to blue eyes on females, more so than brown, despite the fact that blue eyes are inferior to brown (brown eyes are better protected and have less chance of sun damage than blue). The figured that men wanted to spread the dominant brown eye gene over the blue eye gene.

One concept that is commonly misunderstood in genetics is the concept of dominant over recessive (notoriously known as inferior) genes.

Dominant genes are not necessarily superior to recessive genes. Dominance just implies what genes will be expressed over others. For instance, brown eyes are dominant over blue eyes. This means that if you inherit a brown eye gene from your mother and a blue eye gene from your father, you will most likely have brown eyes because brown eyes are dominant over blue (I will avoid the issue of co-dominance here for simplicity). Again, this does not imply that brown eyes are superior. This concept can be better understood after considering osteogenesis imperfecta (OI).

OI, as many know, is a brittle bone disease, which causes one’s bones to break with minimal trauma. A simple fall on the kitchen floor can cause multiple bone fractures. The most common form of osteogenesis Imperfecta is DOMINANT i.e., inherited as a dominant gene.

Now, many will not consider the gene that causes this disease to be superior to the gene that gives you normal healthy bones. The gene that gives you normal healthy bones is recessive to the gene that gives you OI. To say it a different way, the gene that gives you normal healthy bones is recessive to the dominant gene that gives you OI but it is obviously not inferior to it. The OI gene from one parent will just dominate the healthy gene from the other parent and will cause a bone disease to be expressed in the offspring.

I like to clear this issue up wherever I can to prevent anyone from twisting science for racist purpose. I have heard it used for that purpose before.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by cootielicious
One concept that is commonly misunderstood in genetics is the concept of dominant over recessive (notoriously known as inferior) genes....

...I like to clear this issue up wherever I can to prevent anyone from twisting science for racist purpose. I have heard it used for that purpose before.

It is interesting that you had pointed this out. It is similar to the idea that someone that has a particular preference is prejudiced against something else. One is not necessarily better than the other, it is just that one is gravitated to more-so. Good post.

 

[aolsuxs]

Dude....Blacks have a **LOT** easier the most minorities. Think about it, African Americans have a pretty good image potrayed by the media. Not only are they dominent in the music and sports industry, but there are TONS of successfull black actors and actresses. Also the sterotype that they have "huge c0cks" certainly doesn't hurt.

Now in my opinion the two minorites that have it worst are middle eastern, esp after 9/11 and Asians. Name a famous actor/athletle/celebrity that is asain or middle eastern. Not counting Jet Li, Jackie Chan, or Yao ming. If you can count 10 I would be impressed if so the majority would be kung fu people. Everywhere you look in the media asians are portaryed as dory geeky small dik dudes and middle eastern people are portrayed as terrorist.

While it is debatable if a black male has it harder then a white male, look at it this way, if you were asian or middle eastern, its not looking good.

No room to complain.

 

[Silquee Smoove]

An exception...

I'm a white guy and I've hit on and even kissed a few black (good looking women) so you can cross the barrier with relatively no problems. Most people stay with the "apples with apples and oranges with oranges" saying.

Most of my black friends have terrific time, macking so I'm a little shocked that you would have that much trouble.

 

[8ball]

That's funny....

I was at a 50 cent concert and I found it really hard to hit on black women.

The black guys were just pulling the black women left and right.

I think there were about 2 white guys there.

 

[laskoe]

kEEPING IT TOO REAL . . .

Where i live the white girls all want black guys , every race of girl wants black guy,

maybe im saying that because i picked up girls from ANY race,

Experience and true understanding of females , will definitely help you realize how women think. if your at a college or in a nieghborhood that is mixed culture you can pick up any race chick that you want !!

but if your out and in an exclusive racial group and you are the only black person, you better not be a follower ! or looser type.

you better not be weak, dont even let the slightes bit of disrespect come across from anybody in the group, you must be an ALPHA MALE that every one knows if they give you bull**** you will slam them on the drop of a dime , without thought, even if its just with your strong wits, women respond to this no matter what your race

but if your just the tag along "Other guy"
. a girl will play it safe and not go with the outsider,
she will be thinking about her own social position !


I have seen both sides ,

i have seen some black guys be the only black person in a white social group and bone every girl in the social group, even other guys chicks

and i have seen a black guy be the tag along "black kid " that white girlds wont go after.

Be an alphamale every where , PEACE

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Re: kEEPING IT TOO REAL . . .

Originally posted by laskoe
...Be an alphamale every where , PEACE

That says it all...

 

[icepick]

You know what is something good to read, pertinent to this topic, and VERY true?

Othello, by Shakespeare.

Pay special attention to the beginning when every guy wondered how a "fair" (white and pretty) girl could fall for "that which she professed to hate" (that is, the more "neanderthal" looking guy.)

She fell in love with him during the time when he told his stories (of heroism and adventure, i.e. "manlyness" to her and her father.)

Shakespeare was very insightful, and a lot of social truisms can be found in his works. (Even the fact that the weaker guys will sit and wonder how the female pays lip service to male "prettyness" and "fairness" yet runs away with the hero/adventure guy.)

Regardless of race, females want a real man. The definitions VARY from man to man, but as long as you are truthful to yourself about what the word "man" actually means, and turn yourself into THAT, you WILL get the women that you want.

 

[Ashlee Angel]

I wasn't making reasons on why I couldn't get white girls. My gf is white.


I am doing my field reports on cold approaches. I was thinking that if the white dj's did half of there approaches on black chicks. Would there succes rate be as high?

Because I do half of my approaches on white chicks.

I can get with any color girl I please.

 

[icepick]

I guess it really depends on the girl, if she sees you as just another guy, or as (OMG) a black guy.

Sometimes, when I visit friends in the black neighborhoods (I am white), the girls there would yell insulting things at me while I was walking down the street.

Yet, I have hooked up with a couple of black girls in my life that seemed to really dig me. To them, they were in the "group" of friends, and saw me as predominately a man and not predominantly white.

I guess that is my 'theory' on things, but it works when you expand the definition.

Like some girls might only like tall guys, or whatever. Then, you are only hurt when a girl sees you as "short guy" and not just "guy".

But who knows! Trying to understand girls is like trying to understand schizophrenic narccistic egomaniacs with paranoid delusions and multiple personality disorder!

 

[Click Here]

Ashlee im white and black girls actively hit on me pretty much everywhere. I mean im no blue eyed blonde im more ethnic looking then your average white, im french/indian my ancestors are from canada fur traders and **** but im a white male and it does nothing to hurt me with black girls at all. The only thing i think that affects you with different cultures *IMO* is the way you dress. Do you dress preppy? do you dress "black"? do you dress like a surfer?

Depending upon how you dress you'll VISUALLY appeal to girls from certain culture or certain types of girls. I wear collard polo shirts only for the most part, faded jeans and usually gum-sole air force ones and i keep them clean as ****. I have both ears peirced with diamonds my hairs so dark brown its pretty much black and i gell it up in front and keep the sides cut short. I look/feel good with how i dress and i feel that i can get any race of girls no matter what style of guy they like with it.

By me black guys who dress preppy/surfer ****ing dominate with chicks of every color probably because there a rarity and Pharrel from the neptunes really set that **** off, he grew up pretty close to where i live and ppl see him around alot which also helps for the black kids who dress white around here. Whatever you think will appeal to the most types of women while making you feel like your still manly and confident is what you should wear.


clothes make the man...


p.s.- btw black girls seem much more confident to talk to a guy black girls are the only race that has actively like given me there number without me asking and also i was walking by a bus stop one day and a black girl stuck her hand up my shirt to feel my abs just walking by and she looked decent so i stopped and she felt down to my **** which at first i thought was sweet then i realized **** this girl must be the biggest slut so i got outta there quickly. Race doesnt hurt game. If your hot your hot if your not your not.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Click Here
By me black guys who dress preppy/surfer ****ing dominate with chicks of every color probably because there a rarity and Pharrel from the neptunes really set that **** off, he grew up pretty close to where i live and ppl see him around alot which also helps for the black kids who dress white around here. Whatever you think will appeal to the most types of women while making you feel like your still manly and confident is what you should wear.

I don't get much of a chance to dress like a surfer up here in Minnesota but you are right about women being interested in the rarities. Up here where the Anglo/Nordics dress like the guys in the movie Fargo and a lot of the minorities dress in their stereotypical inner city apparel, a guy of color in Hugo Boss or Kenneth Cole easily gets a lot of attention.

In a earlier post I talked about going to our local Renaissance Festival in full Ren garb and getting more attention than I would have imagined. If I were single I would have had the phone numbers of over half the Anglo maids and bar wenches there

So I agree that how you dress is the type of bait that you lay for HBs. Understand where you are fishing, choose the right bait and you have a better chance of landing tons of the good stuff.

 

[Dr. Smooth]

Interesting topic . . .

I'm black, and I holler at all types of women. But I probably date White Girls the most. (Well, not probably, definitely.)

First of all, when it comes to COLD approaching, its harder, plain and simple. Some girls just WON'T open because you are black. It's common sense that girls who have very little contact with black people are less open to considering a romantic relationship with one.

However, it is less difficult when you sarge within your social circle. When I was in college, I found it easier to PU white girls becasue I was KNOWN. Women get to know you and your personality before confronting the race issue.

I see a noticeable diffrence when I try to pick up women of my own race vs women outside of your race. Less ***** shields, more IOI's etc.

Having said that I don't think that anyone should make excuse. I date white women on a regular basis. Just because it's harder dosen't mean its impossible by any means. You might have to work a little harder, but its all part of the game.

Also, most white women I date mostly date black men. I'm starting to think that they either do or they don't. I have yet to "break in" a WG who has never dated a black man before.

 

[Bonhomme]

Not all so black and white

I just could not resist.

I tend to meet way, way more white gals than nonwhite gals, so it is is really a numbers game.

When I have been in a mostly black environment, it's been cool, but the gals tended to regard flirting with me as a source of amusement, as much as anything else.

I know some black fellows who do quite well macking white gals. Perhaps it depends upon the scene.

 

[spanky]

I think the challenge of pulling a women outside of your race somewhat correlates with the socio-economic status of the broad in question to. What I have noticed is that it is harder for a black man to date a white woman or Asian (including Indians) if the women are upper-middle or high class. Just think about it, how many white and Asian female doctors and lawyers do you see dating a black man? I can’t recall any off of the top of my head. This sort of thing is mostly done on the college or below level.

I used to have a friend who would say that he likes to be the only black man in an all-white atmosphere since he instantly becomes a controversial figure therefore, he receives more attention from the chicks.

It seems that if a white woman is willing to talk to a black man it is because it seems to be all about the curiosity, overwhelming confidence on an approach, or fascination with black culture. In other words, if they decide to date a black guy it is because he is a black guy that acts black or into black culture and not a black guy that acts white or is into white culture.

Many Asians women simply stay within their culture since there is an incredible amount of pressure in their culture to do so. If they do decide to say “f-ck what ‘they’ think,” they will usually date white men. Rarely will they date anyone else.

Black women are a challenge to pull…period. You have to really be on top of your game no matter which you are if you plan to walk out of a predominantly black club with a few numbers. You simply have to know how to talk to them well, kick your game hard, and don’t show even one ounce of an AFC personality. It takes 100% confidence with them or the only numbers you will be walking away will be the ones you came in with.

Matter-of-fact, I was at a club a few weeks ago and sitting at the bar was a very fine black woman. She was easily the finest woman in the club. And in front of her was almost a line of black men waiting to approach her. The woman would turn one guy down and the next would step right up to the plate for his turn. It was pathetic.

This is why so many people get confused when some black men say that white women are easier. It doesn’t necessarily mean that white women are easier to charm into sex. After all, once a woman is interested in you, sex should be on the way soon no matter the race. Lust is lust. But white women will be “easier” compared to a black women simply because white women tend to be more approachable.

Hot black women are used to being approached all the time by flirtatious black men so they automatically walk around with the shields up. Black men will simply approach them all of the time because it is what they learn to do in their culture but black women will have to weed them out with attitude and only some good game will get them to lower their shields.

Anyone who has black friends that they regularly hang out will have realized at the beginning of the friendship that their black friends do a lot of cold approaches and flirting with women. On the other hand, many white women say that white men rarely will stop them on the street for an approach or ride up next to them in a car and signal to them to raise down their car window so they can “kick their game.” So when Black men approach many white women with this attitude, they are really impressed by it. It is simply not the type of attention that they are used to getting. Several have admitted this to me.


Considering this through the experience of my own eyes, I will have to agree with Ashlee in saying that it is much more of a challenge to DJ when you are black. This is so even though many blacks learn to approach women often from their peers and male family members. Many will approach women without concern of their race but it will be much more of a challenge for them to close. Black women will be in big time weed-out mode with them and women from other races will hesitate due to social pressures.