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i've already had extensive conversations with caped

hes suffering. eckharty teaches end of suffering

i plan to watch blueprint someday too
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
Do you,any of you, know how it feels to be very/truly alone/lonely? That constant eating away at you feeling that you will do all to stop?
I am very alone and lonely but dont really care to change it cause i have seen what all aspects of human life have to offer.. now i just F hoes and pay bills.. I have been in an 8 year relationship had HB10s had virgins threesoms etc blah blah what ever... i have lived. so i yearn for nothing now but comfort.
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
Do you,any of you, know how it feels to be very/truly alone/lonely? That constant eating away at you feeling that you will do all to stop?
If you can't be happy alone, how can you be happy with someone else?
 

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To expand, your problems are created by your mind. You thought about something that happened in a certain way and that made it how you feel about it today. That is the general overview. You may think you want to know a solution but that is just more information. What you really want is to feel different, and your mind, that created the problem, has adequately tricked you into believing the more you think about this bad thing, the closer you will get to ultimately an epitome of oh **** this is stupid, now i can feel better.

But its just not true. You have no frame of reference, just suffering. You now also have no excuse:

http://cubicle.fi/~tripper/Cubicle/...le Eckhart - The Power of NOW - CD 1 of 7.mp3
http://cubicle.fi/~tripper/Cubicle/...le Eckhart - The Power of NOW - CD 2 of 7.mp3
http://cubicle.fi/~tripper/Cubicle/...le Eckhart - The Power of NOW - CD 3 of 7.mp3
http://cubicle.fi/~tripper/Cubicle/...le Eckhart - The Power of NOW - CD 4 of 7.mp3
http://cubicle.fi/~tripper/Cubicle/...le Eckhart - The Power of NOW - CD 5 of 7.mp3
http://cubicle.fi/~tripper/Cubicle/...le Eckhart - The Power of NOW - CD 6 of 7.mp3
http://cubicle.fi/~tripper/Cubicle/...le Eckhart - The Power of NOW - CD 7 of 7.mp3

Credit www.seductiondatabase.com for the links.

You can go to www.projectw.org and download Internet Download Manager to get the files from there right onto your computer, or use the rapidshare links here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/28816381/Eckhart_Tolle_-_The_Power_of_NOW.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/28822074/Eckhart_Tolle_-_The_Power_of_NOW.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/28827248/Eckhart_Tolle_-_The_Power_of_NOW.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/28828488/Eckhart_Tolle_-_The_Power_of_NOW.part4.rar

Credit www.selfdevelop.info

Take advantage of this before the mods delete that part of this post. Bless!
 
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Well, lot of interesting response, doesn't necesarrily make me feel better.

And I am suffering. I haven't pushed myself enough out of this zone to become the person I want to be. This is not like me, and I so wanted to be this person for such a long time. It's gotten to the point where I am now angry at people for being that person. My mood's shift easily.

I don't know if this is more shyness or just apathy even. Not caring about all these seemingly stupid things everyone else seems to care about. What has bothered me the most and gotten me the most depressed is the lack of women/sex in my life, and I wonder how much of that may be influenced by my own views and values.

As for the earlier post, hmm, I never thought about the batman/loner connection, maybe it's a subconcious thing. And yes, I have suffered from the loner thing for quite some time. What exactly does no man is an island mean?
 

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I can tell you that you do it to yourself. You love your misery. So, instead of getting out of it, you stay put. There are so many ways to step out of your comfort zone you call loneliness. I for one, do not feel sorry for you. You're not a victim even though you think you are.

First, stop saying "I got to get my sh!t together" and just start getting your sh!t together. You do it by DOING! You change by DOING, not by thinking about changing or thinking about doing. You just get up, and you do it.

You sit at home all alone with nothing to do and you cry about it. I can name dozens of things for you to do.

How much value do you offer other people? Or do you just sit and wait for people to give you value? If you're the latter of the two, then you're a weak minded and selfish individual. As long as you're waiting around for people to come and give you some sort of validation instead of being that person that gives the validation, you're going to be sitting at home alone for a long time thinking about changing and thinking about doing without ever actually DOING anything but changing and doing.
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
Well, lot of interesting response, doesn't necesarrily make me feel better.

And I am suffering. I haven't pushed myself enough out of this zone to become the person I want to be. This is not like me, and I so wanted to be this person for such a long time. It's gotten to the point where I am now angry at people for being that person. My mood's shift easily.

I don't know if this is more shyness or just apathy even. Not caring about all these seemingly stupid things everyone else seems to care about. What has bothered me the most and gotten me the most depressed is the lack of women/sex in my life, and I wonder how much of that may be influenced by my own views and values.

As for the earlier post, hmm, I never thought about the batman/loner connection, maybe it's a subconcious thing. And yes, I have suffered from the loner thing for quite some time. What exactly does no man is an island mean?


Aaaahh, so how do you get from being a loner to being the person you want to be? I was just like you when I was younger-- believe it or not. The trick is...get ready for this...you must open yourself up to be hurt. You must come out from behind the wall you created to hide from the world and allow the interaction with others, even if it might be bad.

Yes, it will suck at first-- but such is life. You will eventually learn who is trying to take advantage of you and who is not. There will be many avenues opened that you just couldn't see before. You will come to realize that those whom you always thought were super cool people are just as frail inside as you are. The difference is, they are open to everything, not just success. Do you think that players never get turned down? Ha! They wish.

So now, how bad do you want it? Do you want it bad enough to abandon everything you know? Realize that you will be a completely different person, your current friends might not like you anymore, your family might think that you are terrible and you yourself might forget who you were before.
 

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Duffdog said:
Aaaahh, so how do you get from being a loner to being the person you want to be? I was just like you when I was younger-- believe it or not. The trick is...get ready for this...you must open yourself up to be hurt. You must come out from behind the wall you created to hide from the world and allow the interaction with others, even if it might be bad.
It's better to change your beliefs first. Once you realize that it's okay to be rejected or it's okay to put yourself out there, you're less likely to get hurt. He's going to have to change he's beliefs about what happens to him when he steps out of his lonely lifestyle.
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
Well, lot of interesting response, doesn't necesarrily make me feel better.

And I am suffering. I haven't pushed myself enough out of this zone to become the person I want to be. This is not like me, and I so wanted to be this person for such a long time. It's gotten to the point where I am now angry at people for being that person. My mood's shift easily.

I don't know if this is more shyness or just apathy even. Not caring about all these seemingly stupid things everyone else seems to care about. What has bothered me the most and gotten me the most depressed is the lack of women/sex in my life, and I wonder how much of that may be influenced by my own views and values.

As for the earlier post, hmm, I never thought about the batman/loner connection, maybe it's a subconcious thing. And yes, I have suffered from the loner thing for quite some time. What exactly does no man is an island mean?
I think he's rich or his parents take care of him as he has no other problems. If he was in University studying his ass off, or scrubbing the floors at 7-11 for 12 hours trying to make ends meet, he wouldn't have time to pity himself.

That's what happens when you live in a capitalistic society. Do you think they have therapists and "woe is me" people to talk to in North Korea and Iran? No, people there are too concerned about their survival, whether they will see kids tomorrow or not.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
That's what happens when you live in a capitalistic society. Do you think they have therapists and "woe is me" people to talk to in North Korea and Iran? No, people there are too concerned about their survival, whether they will see kids tomorrow or not.
Good one, If you have ever met an Israeli girl you would have an excellent sense of this. I have never met someone so alive and aware in all my life.
 

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The problem caped is that your ego has you on a leash like a dog owner. What you have to realize your ego controls you and you have to break that pattern. I'am not going to suggest any material because I notice that's what everybody here does for a quick fix. The blueprint decoded isn't going to fix your problem you have read enough material on this site to know what to do and what not to do. The greatest friend or biggest enemy can be yourself and we all here know which side you fall on.
 

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Man i been tryin to get you to do something caped. When are you going to actually go out and try to find some women?
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
Why do I feel this way? Well, I could go into a whole essay about why, but I won't. I have felt this way along time. I don't know if it's from trauma, something bad, I mean really bad, that happened to me last year, or even before that, just this sense of all encompasing alienation and isolation that started in high school.

I mean yesterday, I had the day off from work, I had drunk school early in the morning, I got into an accident earlier this summer, so yeah, and the whole day was spent just roaming the city, and it was just me. I was out from like 8 am to 11 at night. The whole time I felt so empty and isolated and yet I am surrounded by people, so obviously this has caused,mm,I want to say hesitations, with dating,the game,however you want to put it. I don't know if it's in my head or if it is a real problem.

I mean, as I get older,I will be 24 this coming year, I keep feeling further and further behind in life while all the younger,or seemingly younger types seem so far ahead of me. I don't know if this pressure or just feeling left out.
You should probably know that everyone has ups and downs in their lives.

Just because someone is doing great and has some hot girl on his arm NOW doesn't mean that he will in the future, and we know that he most definitely didn't always have it in the present.

No one is ON all the time (except for lil' wayne).

However, happy individuals are ON more often than OFF. And there are reasons for that. They are happy!

I've come to realize that one of the most important things in life (if not the most) is your relations with others.

Your relations with others reflect your inner and outer happiness.

While the saying is true that you are born alone and you die alone, there is much inbetween to fill and the filling 99% of the time comes from your relationships with others.

How many good friends can you say you have? Could you pick up the phone now and find a friend to get a drink and talk with right at this moment? Do you have people around you who like you for who you are and in turn you like them for who they are?

It all sounds really corny, but when it comes down to it, the filling is necessary. Those who live life alone are strong yes, but at the same time miserable.

It's important to find that balance in which you are content with just yourself, but enjoy the company of others.

For example, you have no problem spending a few nights alone with yourself working on your aspirations. However, once in awhile you do require interactions with others. If you don't you're not human; or you've just conceded to the fact that you're too lazy to make new friends.

This vital filling is what makes our individual aspirations and goals SWEETER. You have many friends who you can have parties with and so on, but you have yourself as well who can do anything he wants on his own.

Catch my drift?
 
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"I think he's rich or his parents take care of him as he has no other problems. If he was in University studying his ass off, or scrubbing the floors at 7-11 for 12 hours trying to make ends meet, he wouldn't have time to pity himself.

That's what happens when you live in a capitalistic society. Do you think they have therapists and "woe is me" people to talk to in North Korea and Iran? No, people there are too concerned about their survival, whether they will see kids tomorrow or not."

Whoa,whoa,whoa, I wanna say I am by no means rich, but I do tend to live beyond my own means a little bit. I do live at home, I pay for my own stuff though,clothes,movies,cd's,pay my own bills, yes, parents help out, but it's not like they are my crutch. I work retail at a home depot, I am not in university, would like to be, but have done a few semesters at a local community college. How does one break the ego? What exactly even is an ego? I always thought an ego was the people who thought they were all that and better than everyone else.
 
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"ok...well im a loner too and always have been, so i understand the place loners come from...
your trying to live up to impossible role models.
superheroes and action heroes are what us men are fed on from day one
a lot of us guys take this stuff seriously and think we should aim to be bruce lee or james bond or some other impossible fantasy role model...or at very least that we should project that image.
batman is just another example

the other thing is that when we try to be something we cant possibly be we wind up hateing ourselves or hateing everyone around us, because we cant be what we believe we should be, or have been educated to be, by society...or atleast thats how the loner sees it...trust me i know.

i know many guys who have truly effed up their lives because of this mentailty...you can call it trying to be ultra macho.

guys like this cant be seen as being weak in public, so the idea of even asking a girl out and the possibility of getting a regection is toooo humiliating to their ego, the huge ego that they built up for themselves because they were trying to be something they cant be.

like can you imagine batman or bond getting turned down by any woman....nooooo wayyyy...so the loner thinks he cant afford to loose face either...so he never even dares try.

i get regected, well not everytime of course, but yes in the beginning i did often...and you never get good at anything unless your willing to fail over and over again, but the loner mentality says i cant afford to be seen as a faliure so ill be a total looser instead.

the bravest and most courageous guys are the ones who are willing to be seen as faliures...Try it you might be amazed at how liberating it is to face your fear and go for it...the fact that a girl might say no might make you realise how pathetic you have been and how much energy you wasted on not doing this stuff sooner, because youll realise you didnt die in public and it wasnt that big a deal. Even when i get turnmed down spectacularly in a night club now, the guys who seen i tried to pull the hottest girl there think ive got nuts the size of bowiling balls and wish they had the nerve and confidence to get regected so bad hahah and still walk away laughing, and i aint joking.

P.S. the phrase no man is an island, means no man can be totally alone in this world because we cant survive without the help of other humanbeings. In otherwords evern if you think a lot of people are stupid, you still should accept them because we are all stupid in one way or another and we all need people.

I hope this helps."

Mmm,not exactly. I do not see myself as trying to live up to being these superheroes lol. That wasn't my point. I see what you're saying about the projecting the image thing, something I have struggled with. The whole being something you can't be thing, the thing I want to be is succesful,a family, women,etc, so it's like I am fighting with myself. I never tried to be ultra macho though, but the masculinity thing is a problem in some ways.

As for not being able to handle rejection, maybe I am looking at it differently, but getting girls just always seemed out of reach for me, or you had to be a certain type of guy to get the girls, which is the idea on here is it not? Or am I misuderstanding this comepletely? As for being open to new things, I like to think I am, but I have always had this thing of not following the group, I like what I like,screw anyone else.

Thing is, I haven't even begun to go through the whole go out,try,get rejected,see what you did wrong,etc. Cause in my mind, yeah, it's the whole this guy is successful,more experienced,"attractive", and I am not.

It has helped in many ways, I thank you.
 
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