Maxtro said:
Dude has it ever occurred to you that your thought process is vastly different from the majority of guys on this board?
Have you ever been unconfident or too scared to talk to people? If so how did you overcome it?
I'm aware that my current thought process is vastly different which is why certain things I don't even bother to mention cause without even the foundation the other things will seem counterproductive...With that said before this community stuff I was VERY NEGATIVE and I could never really cold approach. The worst had to be when I realized I hadn't changed internally at all, I was still negative BUT getting laid. So I had to uncover that problem so...
I went to manhattan ALONE for 14 days in a row and approached...ZERO. From that day on I vowed that I'd change who I am, even if I end up dying in the process because I can't even walk as an INDIVIDUAL. Eventually, since I used to approach with nothing in mind by just tapping them and letting it go wherever I had learned a very important thing.
"The beauty of all this is going in having no clue what will happen"
I started to love the factor of not knowing and as a result I became very addicted and had no AA. We'd go to grand central terminal just talking to women after women, EVERY community guy that came out and saw me an my 2 other friends would be in shock because they didn't know anyone who would just nonchalantly meet girl after girl especially during the daytime.
corrector said:
What does DHV mean to you? What are your "values" that would make you something a woman would want independent of the socially conditioned concepts of looks, status, fame, etc....
In a nutshell it's "How I Am" that is priceless. My lifestyle is just an added bonus. So just being in my presence people can tell there is something about me because I move through the world knowing I'm amazing, it's no need for me to even mention it.
corrector said:
So this is a mind thing then. This is what you are telling yourself is you are giving a woman an opportunity to meet you when in fact you are the one approaching her.
I am giving them the opportunity to meet me. BY approaching I've created an opportunity for her to meet me. I screen women from the very start, I even passively screen by expressing myself so bluntly. (I'm very physical) If she wants to win me over she needs to show me that she can handle ME.
I already know how amazing I am and what I offer. Essentially I'm helping her to do what she wanted to do. If I'm eating in a restaurant she might not come approach me although she wants too, so here it is I went up to here. Now it's sort of like "Wow, this is my lucky day, it's him!" So she'll do what she needs to do, to attract me.
Thing is most people go up to women approaching trying to GET something. I don't need anything, ESPECIALLY if it's in night venues. Daytime I just happen to mess around with everything.
corrector said:
Okay, so you are just taking some experiences where it worked out for you. But I'm sure there are many many more experiences that didn't work out. Do those outnumber the positive experiences you are writing about?
Nope, the Standoffish/Say Nothing experiences were more positive than negative. In my world those are signs of her being intimidated by me, so it's funny to me. If a chick didn't want to have anything to do with me, she could walk away right then and there.
HOWEVER, talking to chicks who were on the cell phone was inconsistent. Sometimes they'd hangup, other times they'd try to speak while on the phone, other times they'd be like "I'm on the phone". (Once the girl was actually leaving a message to her BOSS hahaha)
corrector said:
Do you do that anywhere or on club venues?
Yep, with the exception of 1min makeouts in the daytime. I never proactively did that although I've done it from time to time. BUT, I've done some embarrassing things in the daytime such as flapping like a chicken, moving backwards in circles in a high traffic area saying "I am a butterfly". I've also walked around self-amusing and ended up in a makeup shop opening 3 different chicks and bringing them all together. It was like a party in the makeup store. (Meanwhile friend's were in victoria secrets looking for butt pads, retarded I know)
Everything we used to do was all in good fun and just enjoying the process...
corrector said:
Oh I get it, reverse psychology, tell her that if she's rejecting you it just means she can't handle you and you communicate that. So I guess you don't use social proof in your game?
Nope not reverse psychology because I honestly don't care whether she likes me or not. This is about HER getting access to be in MY WORLD. The analogy I use is I'm a scout for a modeling agency who looks for potential talent. Cold Approaching is my way of giving random women a chance anywhere at anytime. I don't care if she makes the cut or not, I let it play out and if she makes it COOL if not COOL. There is no change in how I am...
My whole approach is very Qualification/Framing based because I verbally qualify to the point where I can even do HIGH ENERGY QUALIFYING. An I'm passively ALWAYS screening by expressing myself 100% because I want her to see what she's getting herself into.
From the start a chick will notice I'm PHYSICAL, energetic, unpredictable and highly positive. If she is shy she will show it, if she has hangups with physical touch she'll show it. The whole point is me being ME in order to weed out the women who won't like ME.
The problem with most guys is there approaching trying to GET something. I'm no longer trying to get anything. I'm GIVING an opportunity to the SELECT women who meets MY STANDARDS. Her job is to show me she is the best candidate out of the bunch.
Social Proof...This is hard to explain because since the whole "Walking DHV" thing. Things were getting crazier and crazier...
- FIRST: People would assume a wide assortment of things due to my presence. Mainly people assumed I was a fashion designer or a male model due to my style which is a clear expression of who I am as opposed to trends
- SECOND: Once I entered the party would be getting started because sh!t will happen when I'm around, so naturally everyone will just spectate and watch me go about.
- Third: I started joining random groups since they were offering me free champagne and gave me full access to all there women.
- Fourth: I started bringing girl's out with me an sort of live like "Rock Of Love" where it' survival of the fittest. This took things to a whole next level
As a result things got VERY interesting as far as living and life experiences go because now I was using all this to enhance every aspect of my life. I won't say much about it but it's PRICELESS and social proof is just a natural occurance of me just BEING me.
P.S...Another friend experienced similar things while being a promoter, he ended up getting himself a gf and in the process had to turn down sex and a few 3somes because he enjoys an exclusive relationship. (This is a guy who a year ago was struggling with massive AA)
P.S.S...On the other side of just shear SKILL at cold approaching, a friend of mine PUT IN WORK. He's Fuked about 50 women all the sameday during the daytime. His transformation probably is most drastic, lets just say in college he was known as the creep and I won't even state what comments he got at a PU seminar once.
P.S.S.S...Hahaha, a guy I know in NY who now has a company is on the this month's Mehow "Infield Insider". Although we haven't hung out in a very long time, we've had some interesting adventures together. Check it out as it might have some value in it...