I Get soo many #s But my GAME is weak .. When I make the PHONE CALL! Why?

[toot86]

Ok The story is I have gotten soo many #S that I could do it with no problem now.. I know how to get the girl attracted and so on.. etc..

I get like 2 #s average a day ..

More on club nights and house partys..


but once I get the # I wait like 2 days ..ok

everything good so far..

BUT

ONce I make the phone call I dont have any direction!! The bible was very vague and not to detailed on how to be the best you can be on the phone..


And thats why I think i have been losing alot of girls through the phone call..


There should more about phone calls in the bible as there is APPROACHING,Confidence etc



Here are a few questions I have..

Should I stick with fluff talk.. Or should I go for more sensual "patterning" talk ..

What detail guidelines can be given for PHone Calls..

And if I ask for a get together just as she answers the phone.. Would that work?


Am I too nice on the phone... Should I just imply that I want sex and not a movie..

sometimes I feel like the girl thinks "WOW a movie great how boring, I want sex iam soo horney"

Should 'I talk like I want sex and tell her what shes wearing ..??

 

[John Juan]

my take

hey here's my advice. don't stay on the phone too long (10 minutes max), keep it light (no talking about former relationships, etc), be funny, get a good flow of conversation going, and make sure by the end you secure some type of meeting. that is why you got the number afterall if you need help getting into a good flow of conversation, listen very carefully to what she says, and just bounce right off that. ask her questions/ make comments based on what she tells you. any girl who is seriously interested will give you some "clues" as to what she wants to talk about. good luck to ya!

-JLC

 

[Knicknack]

there was a thread in the tips forum about phone openers. i posted one and i'll share it with you here. the trick is to not sweat the phone call. make it brief as hell. give her a funny opener, ask her what she is doing at the moment, then ask her out. it's that easy.

the opener i used with this girl i've been dating for a month was this: i met her in a club and the only thing i remembered was the college she went to.

*ring* *ring*

her: hello
me: hi, i'm looking for this cute girl that goes to xxx college, is she in?
her: *laughs* yes, this is xxx
me: oh ok, this is andrew. how are you?

she loved it. no hesitation to except my date offer and we've been having a great time ever since.

i think you are placing way to much emphasis on the damn phone call. just relax like you do while talkin to them face to face. your first call should be no longer than 2-5 minutes.

 

[toot86]

Re: my take

Originally posted by John Juan
hey here's my advice. don't stay on the phone too long (10 minutes max), keep it light (no talking about former relationships, etc), be funny, get a good flow of conversation going, and make sure by the end you secure some type of meeting. that is why you got the number afterall if you need help getting into a good flow of conversation, listen very carefully to what she says, and just bounce right off that. ask her questions/ make comments based on what she tells you. any girl who is seriously interested will give you some "clues" as to what she wants to talk about. good luck to ya!

-JLC

I do stay on the phone for a short amount of time.. I could keep the convo going for hours but I try not to go into all the branches and just stay on one branch... of the convo

I do make them laugh ..


it seems peferfect but my friend says when I told him about my prob he said Iam too nice!!??

Should I say more risky things on the phone..??

 

[toot86]

Originally posted by Knicknack
there was a thread in the tips forum about phone openers. i posted one and i'll share it with you here. the trick is to not sweat the phone call. make it brief as hell. give her a funny opener, ask her what she is doing at the moment, then ask her out. it's that easy.

the opener i used with this girl i've been dating for a month was this: i met her in a club and the only thing i remembered was the college she went to.

*ring* *ring*

her: hello
me: hi, i'm looking for this cute girl that goes to xxx college, is she in?
her: *laughs* yes, this is xxx
me: oh ok, this is andrew. how are you?

she loved it. no hesitation to except my date offer and we've been having a great time ever since.

i think you are placing way to much emphasis on the damn phone call. just relax like you do while talkin to them face to face. your first call should be no longer than 2-5 minutes.

Phone openers!??


What if her parents answer?

thats the only problem i can see with this technique other wise it sounds like a good idea..

I am going to try it .. can i use that idea.. But if i dont know what shcool she goes to .. Like this one girl I could call today shes a cheerleader...

can I say "Yeah iam looking for the cute cheerleader that knows how to shake her pom poms"

or is that too cheesy..


another problem I find .. Is is the 9 -10:30pm Calling Time

What have you guys found on the time you called a chick.. Does it matter?

Would she think I want a booty call if i call soo late.. Or think iam just horney and wanted to get with her..


Would calling in the daytime .. be better..?

 

[Bud Wiser]

Originally posted by toot86
another problem I find .. Is is the 9 -10:30pm Calling Time

What have you guys found on the time you called a chick.. Does it matter?

Would she think I want a booty call if i call soo late.. Or think iam just horney and wanted to get with her..


Would calling in the daytime .. be better..?

If she's living with her folks and doesn't have her own number, then make it between nine and ten. Otherwise, go to the 9:00 to 10:30 bracket.

Keep it light. Keep it funny. Tease her some. Hang loose. And keep it under 15 minutes. Then go for the date, set it up and get off the damn phone. Always end the convo first.

I'll say it again:

Be without desire. Be wonderful. Be gone.

This simple little formula works wonders.

 

[Starman]

Kill the freakin "Whats if this what if that" garbage too

you are thinking waay to ahead of the game..and are too scared to mess up..and this is probably what shows

 

[Knicknack]

Originally posted by toot86
Phone openers!??


What if her parents answer?

thats the only problem i can see with this technique other wise it sounds like a good idea..

I am going to try it .. can i use that idea.. But if i dont know what shcool she goes to .. Like this one girl I could call today shes a cheerleader...

can I say "Yeah iam looking for the cute cheerleader that knows how to shake her pom poms"

or is that too cheesy..


another problem I find .. Is is the 9 -10:30pm Calling Time

What have you guys found on the time you called a chick.. Does it matter?

Would she think I want a booty call if i call soo late.. Or think iam just horney and wanted to get with her..


Would calling in the daytime .. be better..?

i have never dealt with any number except a cell phone these days. i can't help you with the parents thing.

sure, you can use my idea. i like your spin on it. anything to get them laughing.

i try to call before midnight and sober if the girl is HB7+... if she is some random girl that i barely remember i might call her drunk at 3am just to see what she would say. on those type of calls i am actually just looking for a reason to flirt a bit and have no intention of asking them out. i usually get the voicemail and delete the number from my cell immediately.

i agree with starman. stop questioning your actions. who cares what the hell she thinks. you are the man and you'll decide when to call and what time you'll let her go out with you. if she doesn't play by your rules it's time to NEXT.

 

[toot86]

Originally posted by Knicknack

i agree with starman. stop questioning your actions. who cares what the hell she thinks. you are the man and you'll decide when to call and what time you'll let her go out with you. if she doesn't play by your rules it's time to NEXT.

No way I have to get feedback..

If i think like that I will never be better and keep improving..

What if said .. WHATS UP Ho .. give me some puzzzzz


For me that would be MY WAY..

but I cant always play my rules .. You have to play by the best.

 

[SLIKKER_THAN_AVG]

When you talk to her on the phone, act like a "deer in the headlights"

 

[toot86]

Originally posted by SLIKKER_THAN_AVG
When you talk to her on the phone, act like a "deer in the headlights"

you crack me up man.. you and Chris Rock are like right here with the genius level in your humor..

your soo cute..

 

[Knicknack]

Originally posted by toot86
No way I have to get feedback..

If i think like that I will never be better and keep improving..

What if said .. WHATS UP Ho .. give me some puzzzzz


For me that would be MY WAY..

but I cant always play my rules .. You have to play by the best.

you are taking me too literally. you need to read the DJ Bible a bit more.

since you are slow on the uptake, i'll guide you a bit.

after my opener...

me: so how are you today?
her: i'm great thanks, and you?
me: i'm extravagant. thanks for asking. so what are you up to right now?
her: *blah* blah blah blah blah
me: oh i see... so how is blah blah blah blah...
her: blah blah blah...
me: i was thinking we could go out this friday to so and so
her: sure
me: ok would you like to meet there, my place, or i'd be glad to pick you up.
her: it doesn't matter, whatever you want.

this is a typical conversation. NO BS except the fluff blah blah blah's so i seemed interested in her life.

 

[toot86]

Originally posted by Knicknack
you are taking me too literally. you need to read the DJ Bible a bit more.

since you are slow on the uptake, i'll guide you a bit.

after my opener...

me: so how are you today?
her: i'm great thanks, and you?
me: i'm extravagant. thanks for asking. so what are you up to right now?
her: *blah* blah blah blah blah
me: oh i see... so how is blah blah blah blah...
her: blah blah blah...
me: i was thinking we could go out this friday to so and so
her: sure
me: ok would you like to meet there, my place, or i'd be glad to pick you up.
her: it doesn't matter, whatever you want.

this is a typical conversation. NO BS except the fluff blah blah blah's so i seemed interested in her life.

Cool I just found something out .. YOu gave 2 options .. Would you like to meet at my place.. and Would you like me to pick you up...


My tick is that I feel like iam being intrusive when I say where you live so i can get there..

what ways can I find out where she lives in a cool non intrusive way..


or maybe its just me.. Its no big deal to tell someone where you live..

But if I say would you like to meet at my place.. more reason for her to flake .. She doesnt find it. or she is lazy

 

[Oxide]

i know exactly what you are going through. 2 months ago i would sweat every phone call too, and get nervous as fvck and end up loosing some girls.

Ok. This is exactly what you need to do. Call Them ALL.
The only way to fix this permanently is to get experience. After you call a bunch of girls and get all sort of responses, you wont sweat the phone call as much.

When i call up a girl for first time, this is how it goes

Ring
Hello?
-Hello, is Amy there?
Yeah, this is her
-Hey, its Dennis what up. (is she's silent then remind her where u met)
Oh hey, how u been
-Good, i got some free time tonite and i want see you.
Alright. i live....


There ya go. keep it fvcking short.

The reason phone is harder for you is because time had passed since u got the number, so u start wondering what she thinks of u now (stop that sh1t).

Oh, the time doesnt really matter either. As long as u have something to do , call her up and do it together.
I called up a chick 2 days ago, and i didnt have a clue as to what we were gonna do. So i walked outside and started playing basketball. She came over, and i started playing with her. Simple.

 

[toot86]

Originally posted by Oxide
i know exactly what you are going through. 2 months ago i would sweat every phone call too, and get nervous as fvck and end up loosing some girls.

Ok. This is exactly what you need to do. Call Them ALL.
The only way to fix this permanently is to get experience. After you call a bunch of girls and get all sort of responses, you wont sweat the phone call as much.

When i call up a girl for first time, this is how it goes

Ring
Hello?
-Hello, is Amy there?
Yeah, this is her
-Hey, its Dennis what up. (is she's silent then remind her where u met)
Oh hey, how u been
-Good, i got some free time tonite and i want see you.
Alright. i live....


There ya go. keep it fvcking short.

The reason phone is harder for you is because time had passed since u got the number, so u start wondering what she thinks of u now (stop that sh1t).

Oh, the time doesnt really matter either. As long as u have something to do , call her up and do it together.
I called up a chick 2 days ago, and i didnt have a clue as to what we were gonna do. So i walked outside and started playing basketball. She came over, and i started playing with her. Simple.

So you recomend to call her up and setup the get together immedietly..

And not 3 days in advanced

Get together Right away VS Get together 3 days after phone call


and also no fluff talk just hey hows it going and then right to the setting up of the get together.. ok

fLUFF TALK vs NO fluff talk


now iam confused..

 

[Oxide]

DIAL THAT NUMBER NOW AND ASK HER OUT FOR TONITE.

AND STOP SECOND GUESSING YOURSELF

 

[toot86]

Actually there are 3 #s I should call ..


All of them passed the 3day wait..

 

[Knicknack]

what the hell? ask a complete stranger to go out the same day you call her? i might do that to a girl i've been dating for awhile, but not a first call.

most people will have plans already. just tell her you think you have some free time a couple days in advance. and yes, you should use a little fluff just so you don't seem so cold.

 

[Oxide]

to each his own bud, but works for me.

when she says she is busy, ask her when she is free this week. then tell her youll call when her later that week.

 

[toot86]

damit mad the CALL !!

You see I think I made another mistake..

I did the Funny opener .. She works at a furniture store so I

Me:Is Cindy there?

Cindy: This is she ..

Me:Yeah , Iam looking to buy a new Lay Z boy what COLOR do you recomend do you thinik i should get..

Cindy:UUUMM i dont know who is this?

Me: Hey this is MYNAME iam just kiddidng we met at the party

Cindyh yeah ok

Me:So whats up

Cindy:I just got off work Iam driving home

Me:I just got off too!

Cindy:Oh yeah where you work

Me: THE SWAIN "male stripclub" JOke

Cindy:Oh yeah cool for real?

Me: No iam just kidding

Cindy : oh Ok lol

MORE FLUFF TALK about her job

Me:So what are you doing on thursday or wendsday

Cindy: I dont know i might have to work but my schedule changes
BUT i might be off on thursday

Me:Lets go hang out watch jason vs freddy
is there a good movie thetere near by ..

Cindy: Yeah there is one by the mall thats close to my house

Me:IS IT ghetto?

Cindy:No its really cool

Me:They dont play out of date movies do they? Like willy wonka

Cindy: lol no they play the new stuff

Me:So lets go on thursday

Cindy:but i have to check if iam doing anything call my friends..

Me: What your going to put your friends b4 me MR. Sexy?

Cindy:No its just that sometimes they want to do stuff
Call me back tommorow

ME:Man come on are you playing hard to get or what?

Cindy:No just call me tommorow

Me:Man are you even interested?

Cindy: YES IAM interested!! giggling

Me:Ok ill surprise you tommorow who knows what time ill call

Cindy: but i might be at work CALL after 8

Me:Ill try dont want to make you crash "she was driving
ok so ill talk to you later see ya

Cindy:bye


You see guys!!! I might have lost another one....!!

because I didint have solid info on phone calls ..


what feedback can you guys give me on this one..

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