I Get soo many #s But my GAME is weak .. When I make the PHONE CALL! Why?

Oxide

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What the hell? next?

the chick is interested, what the hell are u waiting for? i woudnt call her tommorrow, cause she told u to. but call her up next day and say "lets go watch some movies at my place"

you are so unconfident in this its funny, because your phone convo was good. dont overanalyze this ****, just go with it, and remeber, life isnt over if she rejects.
 

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Just go with it

And see what happens.

Convo was OK. She seems quite into it. Good luck!

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Back to your original question...

I have the same situation, and have come to realize it's simply that I'm getting a lot of phone #s from gals who have insufficient interest. Perhaps we should call them sooner, before they get time to think about it. After one makes it a habit to ask for the number, it's easy to get a lot of #s from gals who are not into you enough.

Just call 'em anyway and practice. No need to even try to set up dates with the low-interest ones. Just get the hang of getting a good convo going.
 

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You're getting too many numbers from girls who are not interested. Try keeping a real conversation going for a full ten minutes. You're probably not establishhing any rapport.
 
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Your game is weak cause your too focused on yourself. Your sweating what to say next and hating those lulls in the convo.

That is because you haven't taken a real interest in the person on the other ends life story.

Here's a lesson from the pimp game:

Get her life story!

That means find out everything you can about her. Take an active interest in her life and you will never suck on the phone again. Ho's love to talk about themselves. What you gotta remember to do is damper down your ego when you talk to her.

ex:

DJ: so you said you lived in Japan huh...so did I...back then it was ...blah blah blah...

this fool just moved the convo back to about him...see...make it about her.

Listen actively for cue's that will lead the convo in other directions. Look for new threads to explore. Be like a good talk show host and the ho's will love you and feel like they have a special connection with you...even though you really don't and you only want 1 thing...lol

peace
 

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toot you missed the point of the "opener"... the opener is exactly that. THE OPENER! do not ask for her. assume it's her you are talking to and deliver your funny line. it catches them off guard and usually makes em laugh.
 

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Ok .. I like the advice its getting better..

I think I do get too many #s yet I didint establish a good attraction within them....Just a little rapport but not a burning attraction maybe


But shoot.. I messed up on the opener thingy .. Iam not supposed to ask for her first? Then what if its her roomate or something..


Player_Supreme - But I can really get into the convo that it will mess everything up like take up to an hour so thats why I dont want to get my feet wet in the convo and getting to know her






and by the way
Bonhomme and pecker .. I think you guys are right about it but then what would I do with those little attraction girls i get #S from.. Would it be best to just convo on the phone with no date setups??
 

toot86

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Originally posted by Oxide
What the hell? next?

the chick is interested, what the hell are u waiting for? i woudnt call her tommorrow, cause she told u to. but call her up next day and say "lets go watch some movies at my place"

you are so unconfident in this its funny, because your phone convo was good. dont overanalyze this ****, just go with it, and remeber, life isnt over if she rejects.

Yeah.. But this is a game.. I have to analzy my plays and my offensive.. If not then iam going to lose alot of games

I dont care about rejections I passed that cycle but the thing is sometimes i feel like I could of done it better..

Like michael jordan when he misses a game winning shot .. He probally does cry but he wants to get better and he practices the shot again and again.

So next time he wont miss

i dont want all the girls I meet to go to waste.. I want to make the fewest mistakes i can ..
 

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I've had the same problem. I'll meet a girl out at a club where I've had 2 or 3 drinks and am really relaxed and funny and don't care, but then when I go to call her SOBER a couple days later, I get all choked up and I wonder WHY.

It's because suddenly you place a great deal of importance on "getting" the girl...your pride gets in the way and starts telling you how to act and how to respond, you're not getting the kinesthetic or visual feedback you got before, so it's hard to get into a sexual state. You start to doubt that she's really into you.

I'm used to using the phone to conduct business, so I go into a business-like mentality, where I feel like I'm trying to work out a bank statement or conduct a job interview...and that's just no good...the girl starts wondering, "Is this really the guy I met the other night? Why is he so....BORING all of a sudden?"

Before you call, laugh, smile to yourself, and think about how ridiculous she is/all women are (and maybe how warm and soft they feel). Then just call and have fun. Don't ever think, "Is she feeling me?" If she wasn't, you wouldn't have gotten the number in the first place. And it really DOESN'T MATTER if she blows you off...you'll find another. And another.
 

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Originally posted by squirrels
I've had the same problem. I'll meet a girl out at a club where I've had 2 or 3 drinks and am really relaxed and funny and don't care, but then when I go to call her SOBER a couple days later, I get all choked up and I wonder WHY.

It's because suddenly you place a great deal of importance on "getting" the girl...your pride gets in the way and starts telling you how to act and how to respond, you're not getting the kinesthetic or visual feedback you got before, so it's hard to get into a sexual state. You start to doubt that she's really into you.

I'm used to using the phone to conduct business, so I go into a business-like mentality, where I feel like I'm trying to work out a bank statement or conduct a job interview...and that's just no good...the girl starts wondering, "Is this really the guy I met the other night? Why is he so....BORING all of a sudden?"

Before you call, laugh, smile to yourself, and think about how ridiculous she is/all women are (and maybe how warm and soft they feel). Then just call and have fun. Don't ever think, "Is she feeling me?" If she wasn't, you wouldn't have gotten the number in the first place. And it really DOESN'T MATTER if she blows you off...you'll find another. And another.
So I should still try to be funny and seductive like my APPROACH.. but just quicker and to the point to get a get together..


So whats up with just having Long convos with her and not setting up a get together..

?
 

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Originally posted by toot86
So I should still try to be funny and seductive like my APPROACH.. but just quicker and to the point to get a get together..


So whats up with just having Long convos with her and not setting up a get together..

?
The problem is that over a wire is never the ideal medium for conveying sexuality, no matter how sensual your voice is. She met you in person, she was interested in you in person. When you call, act as though you're in person and set up to meet her in person. Don't waste a lot of time...face it, you didn't get her number because you wanted to talk to her on the phone. ;)

Be funny, be sexual...have fun with her. I wish I had known this a week ago...I might not still be a virgin. :(

The more I think about it, the best thing you can do over the phone is just mess with her head...as long as you keep it fun for both of you. Forget any conventional conversation, because you'll just go into "phone mode" and setting up the date will become a chore.
 

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Practice, practice, practice! I used to be horrible on the phone, but then i started making dozens of business calls daily (sometimes over 100/day), and now i'm like a fish in water, no matter who i'm speaking to ;)
 
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