I Can't Get ONE Date

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So for the past three weeks I have sarging rather consistently, making cold approaches with girls, and so forth. Needless to say all of them flaked on me, even the ones whom I had good conversations with me. I know I'm not being subtle since I make my intentions clear (body language, flirting) , that I'm not there to make friends. Today I received my first fake number, and actually I had a premonition that was coming since the girl initially resisted in a subtle manner lol. I did that just to confirm how disinterested girls behave.

Seriously, interested girls become disinterested. Whats next disinterested girls become interested in me?
 

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It's only three weeks, dude. Some guys go years without getting a date.

Anyway, maybe try toning down the body language/flirting and be more subtle. You might be coming off too strong which may translate to as easily attractable....in other words, girls may feel that they already have you since you come off flirting so heavily...

Throwing some ideas out there. Run with whatever you feel best.
 

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I can't either. I usually just end up mistaking a woman's friendliness for interest.

Hell. I thought I could make a female friend. Guess not.
 

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The Bat said:
It's only three weeks, dude. Some guys go years without getting a date.

Anyway, maybe try toning down the body language/flirting and be more subtle. You might be coming off too strong which may translate to as easily attractable....in other words, girls may feel that they already have you since you come off flirting so heavily...

Throwing some ideas out there. Run with whatever you feel best.
:eek: Years? Right now, I feel like crap, since I'm a results type of guy. I like watching myself progress. Years failing to yield one date would really be a hit on the self esteem.
 

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The Bat said:
It's only three weeks, dude. Some guys go years without getting a date.
I get what you're saying, but that sounds like a bit of a hyperbole.
 

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slitherjef said:
I can't either. I usually just end up mistaking a woman's friendliness for interest.

Hell. I thought I could make a female friend. Guess not.
One valuable lesson I learned during these three weeks: IOIs are unreliable, but if you receive IOD's you better act on them!
 

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Ask yourself this question. Do you truly love yourself and genuinely accept who you are? If the answer is yes to both of them, then women will come flocking to you the moment you come to that realization.
 

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Ask yourself this question. Do you truly love yourself and genuinely accept who you are? If the answer is yes to both of them, then women will come flocking to you the moment you come to that realization.
I think the key thing is overcoming my insecurities, I consider myself a lightweight. Clean bulking is difficult and working out takes time in order for results to appear.
 

Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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I don't really do cold approaches anymore, women generally are not cool when strangers try to get their number. Women are increasingly becoming aware of PUAs. You want to live your life as you normally would, but make sure you are talking to the women in a way like she is already your girlfriend. Find out which girls are feeling your style and then you can progress to get her number and etc. From personal experience, the women who gave me their number off a cold approach and didn't flake turned out to be low-quality women who really have nothing going for them other than throwing their vag's around. If you should ever get into a LTR with one of them, what is stopping her from cheating on you if it took THAT LITTLE effort to get her from the streets to your bed?

The choice is yours:

  • Improve your life as a whole and live it to the fullest, keeping your eyes open for women who are giving you IOI's (or even at least friendly to you) and working on them accordingly.
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  • Continue cold approaching until you find a woman who doesn't flake on you only to find a woman that is only good for effing and nothing more.

I mean, come on. Do you REALLY think that with all the seduction knowledge in your head you can get any woman of your choice on this Earth? Let's hope not for the sake of free will.
 

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you are probably just coming off as too eager and too straightforward, you said they already know what you are trying to do, so naturally they are going to put up resistance.
 

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scholarjan said:
So for the past three weeks I have sarging rather consistently, making cold approaches with girls, and so forth. Needless to say all of them flaked on me, even the ones whom I had good conversations with me. I know I'm not being subtle since I make my intentions clear (body language, flirting) , that I'm not there to make friends. Today I received my first fake number, and actually I had a premonition that was coming since the girl initially resisted in a subtle manner lol. I did that just to confirm how disinterested girls behave.

Seriously, interested girls become disinterested. Whats next disinterested girls become interested in me?
Your not alone in this bro. Dude, Ive been going out and chatting up a lot of girls getting good convo with them and not even randomly, i usually go up to girls that i see checking me out and giving me EC. I get them laughing, getting really touchy with them and kissing them sometimes... They seem VERY interested and then they flake when trying to meet them again. Im starting to just not even bother anymore. The latest flake kinda got to me as i reported in my last Field Report meeting a HB 9 Blonde, Got convo at a bar with her, got her to go to another bar with me, Danced with her and things started gettin heavy until a full blown make out... Before she leaves she gives me her number and says to call her.. I do to try to get her to meet up again.. and you guessed it.... Flaking.
 
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Your not alone in this bro. Dude, Ive been going out and chatting up a lot of girls getting good convo with them and not even randomly, i usually go up to girls that i see checking me out and giving me EC. I get them laughing, getting really touchy with them and kissing them sometimes... They seem VERY interested and then they flake when trying to meet them again. Im starting to just not even bother anymore. The latest flake kinda got to me as i reported in my last Field Report meeting a HB 9 Blonde, Got convo at a bar with her, got her to go to another bar with me, Danced with her and things started gettin heavy until a full blown make out... Before she leaves she gives me her number and says to call her.. I do to try to get her to meet up again.. and you guessed it.... Flaking.
I've experienced it too, I don't go out to bars/clubs often anymore for this reason. I would get 4 or 5 numbers an outing. Most of the time they all flake when it is time to meet - tell that to the PUA's lmao. Now, if we are kissing/making out, I try to get them back to my place. If not, number close, but you will have a 95% chance flake rate.
 

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I've been in the OP's shoes before. I always think of this when posters say something like "just go fvck 10 other women". I remember when finding ONE was a daunting enough task.

Like The Bat said, try toning it down a little. If you tone it down too much, try showing a little more intent. That's how you find calibration. At least you're out there trying, that's the main thing. As long as you keep at it, you WILL find some success eventually.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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BeginningDJ said:
I've experienced it too, I don't go out to bars/clubs often anymore for this reason. I would get 4 or 5 numbers an outing. Most of the time they all flake when it is time to meet - tell that to the PUA's lmao. Now, if we are kissing/making out, I try to get them back to my place. If not, number close, but you will have a 95% chance flake rate.
Its kind of funny when i think back because im thinking about my attitude towards women when my first old ex girlfriend really jaded me and broke my heart really bad,... from that point i was pretty rude to girls, i would hang up on them, call them out on their BS if i felt like it and really put them in their place if they deserved it and you know what? they kept coming after me, calling me, texting me, wanting to see me, If i felt just an inch of disrespect or games from a girl.. they were going to know about it. I ended up in a LTR with my now Ex and im just playing it cool now, meeting girls and just having a good time with a laid back attitude and its just flaking and so-so interest it seems. Maybe next time i walk into a bar, i should go grab a girl by her hair and tell her to grab my c*ck.. just maybe then everyone in the bar will look at me and clap for my "alphaness" ... i just dont know anymore
 
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In2theGame said:
The latest flake kinda got to me as i reported in my last Field Report meeting a HB 9 Blonde, Got convo at a bar with her, got her to go to another bar with me, Danced with her and things started gettin heavy until a full blown make out... Before she leaves she gives me her number and says to call her.. I do to try to get her to meet up again.. and you guessed it.... Flaking.
Sounds like you did good to me. A year ago would you have even successfully pulled that off? How about three months ago were you able to pull off a makeout with a random hot blonde in a bar or even have the guts to go up to one in the first place?

You gotta count these things as a win whenever you have even the slightest step outside of your boundaries and progress past your perceived limitations. I would analyze what went right and wrong with your continued interactions with women. Fix what you feel are mistakes, and cultivate what really worked for you. Eventually your game will be second nature, couple this with how confident you'll feel with successful interaction with women and finding dates won't even be a huge concern anymore.

Never become outcome dependent, just remember you are doing everything for your own amusement and curiousity and you should be fine.
 

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IronDJ said:
I get what you're saying, but that sounds like a bit of a hyperbole.
Oh..? I've known few guys who were in that position. Now, you could argue that most of the time didn't even make one iota of an attempt at courting women. But the point still stands that not having/getting a date in a 3 week period is not the worst thing that could happen.

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Ask yourself this question. Do you truly love yourself and genuinely accept who you are? If the answer is yes to both of them, then women will come flocking to you the moment you come to that realization.
I know there is much more to this than just, "Accept yourself for who you are and women will knock on your doors" type of advice but I can't help but wonder if this isn't another version of "Just be yourself"....?
 

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I don't really do cold approaches anymore, women generally are not cool when strangers try to get their number. Women are increasingly becoming aware of PUAs. You want to live your life as you normally would, but make sure you are talking to the women in a way like she is already your girlfriend. Find out which girls are feeling your style and then you can progress to get her number and etc. From personal experience, the women who gave me their number off a cold approach and didn't flake turned out to be low-quality women who really have nothing going for them other than throwing their vag's around. If you should ever get into a LTR with one of them, what is stopping her from cheating on you if it took THAT LITTLE effort to get her from the streets to your bed?
this.

i've noticed this as well, all my day cold approaches in super markets and coffee places i'm finding the ones who do give me their number are attention wh0res and if they don't flake are low quality.

it's weird, like it's acceptable to cold approach in a bar when their defences are up as they're open to being approached there but anywhere else in every day life they don't appreciate strangers talking to them even though they complain about guys hitting on them in bars.

i honestly dont see where or when the best place is to find quality women?
 

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well i dont know anything about you. How old are you, what do you look like, where are you approaching women, what city are you in, what else do you have going on in your life. All this advice is just general advice. And 3 weeks is not a lot of time so dont worry about it
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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