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MindOverMatter

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gio, if penkitten was in a ladies room, and some guy was jerking off to her, and she felt violated, fought him, and beat him up, came to you and admitted it, would you turn her in? even if it was pre-meditated?

not saying this would happen, or this is how penkitten would react (i don't know her), but suppose she felt violated enough to fight the guy. would you turn her in?
 

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Originally posted by h2o
no, i haven't seen american beauty. maybe you should enlighten me.
I don't want to spoil the ending for anyone. If you get a chance, rent it. Seriously. It's a very interesting movie.

seriously though Gio, what have i personally done to you that would prove sufficient motivation for trying to "turn me in"?
Nothing. Look, contrary to popular belief, I don't have any personal motivation for any of this. My motivation is strictly as a member of the human race. I don't care if it was a "homo" you beat up, or a girl, or a nerd, or a black guy, or a retard, or a Jew. What you did was wrong.

the reason i am a bit concerned because i don't want to face criminal consequences even if that is the least bit possible.
Understandable.

maybe i just have anger management issues like djdreamer says. would you be happy if i sought a therapist?
Anything you did that ensured that nothing like this happened again would make me happy, yeah.

i mean, i PMed you asking you to close/delete the thread, but you haven't respond, nor have you taken any such action.
People are still discussing the issue. There's a good chance it will be locked in the very near future.

i feel like you're amused with the fact that i committed a "crime" and want to take the opportunity to not only make a fool of me but then to use this same thread as evidence for "turning me in"?
Quite the opposite. I'm not the least bit amused that committed a crime. And I'm certainly not making a fool out of you -- if you look the fool, you did that to yourself. Just like you provided all the evidence yourself, as well.

i think that makes you a bit sick yourself.
I'm not terribly concerned about your assessment of me.

i could always say i just made everything up...but then i realized if my IP is logged and you were really dedicated, you could get in touch with the campus police here and put the bits and pieces together...of course, that's a stretch, but i don't want to take any chances...i've really started to get worried about how far you could actually take this...or maybe you're the one who's bluffing?
I told you earlier in this thread that I wasn't bluffing, and I have been fully prepared to demonstrate that. So far, all that I have seen is your worry that you will get in trouble. You have no remorse for your disgusting and unnecessary actions, only that you might end up having to face consequences for them. If you showed a little remorse it would probably make it a little more difficult for me, but as it stands right now the decision is fairly clear-cut.

then again, if you were convinced i was lying about the whole event, i would lose all credibility here and be labelled a troll with a sick sense of humor, which is far better than facing prison time or a criminal record, but nonetheless bad as well.
Well there are easy ways to get that all sorted out.

i think i'll actually talk to a counselor or something about this...maybe i have some issues that don't usually show up in my everyday life that i need to deal with, who knows. i'll be more careful next time in controlling my anger.
This is the first truly positive thing I've seen from this whole ordeal. Are you actually sorry for what you did?

or rather, do any of you know for a fact if it is actually possible to turn someone in based on something they just wrote on a forum??
It happens quite frequently, actually.

the thing is, the guy who i assaulted was such a wuss he just ran off...i doubt he has as much of a problem with what happened (and realizes exactly why he got his ass kicked) as some of you do...*hint* Gio *hint*
Good thing I'm here then, I guess.
 

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And the resounding chorus from the moron peanut gallery is "bravo for beating that homo".
This guy is hardly a homo but more a sexual deviant.
 

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
gio, if penkitten was in a ladies room, and some guy was jerking off to her, and she felt violated, fought him, and beat him up, came to you and admitted it, would you turn her in? even if it was pre-meditated?

not saying this would happen, or this is how penkitten would react (i don't know her), but suppose she felt violated enough to fight the guy. would you turn her in?
Hey, MindOverMatter, I apologize. I didn't know h2o was your boyfriend. I'll try to go easier on him out of respect for you.

As for your scenario with penkitten, she would have done NONE of the things that happened here. She would have gotten the hell out, she wouldn't have come back to see if the guy was still there, she wouldn't have tried to beat the sh*t out of him, she wouldn't have vandalized property, and she wouldn't have come here bragging about it. So as far as I'm concerned, although it's a pretty hypothetical, it's pretty much pointless.
 

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Originally posted by belividere
This guy is hardly a homo but more a sexual deviant.
When I was in high school there was a guy in our class who was autistic. They caught him jerking off in the middle of the shoe department of a local Walmart-type store. On one of those benches, looking at himself in the little slanted mirror. In the middle of the damn afternoon.

Who knows what kind of problems this guy had? Maybe h2o's guy has mental or psychological problems. Maybe he's autistic or retarded, for Christ's sake. We don't know.
 

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Originally posted by h2o
yeah, that's right. i'm not trying to rekindle the flame wars about metrosexuality or whatnot. this has nothing to do with that ****.

this is probably the most bizarre thing that's happened to me in a while...and i'm usually an easy going guy that doesn't get in fights (hadn't beat up anyone since grade school anyway).

anyway, i was in the middle of taking my math final exam, and went to the bathroom. when i was washing my hands, i looked at myself in the mirror, and behind me, i noticed some eyes looking at me through the wide stall door (between the hinge and the wall). when i turned around, the guy opened the door...he was sitting on the toilet with his legs spread, and rubbing one out as he was staring at me! i was like "WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING!!!??? GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE MOFO!!" and i myself bolted out of the bathroom.

when i got back to my testing room, i could barely think...i mean, this isn't the sort of thing that happens everyday that you get over easily...a guy rubbing one out from staring at me?????!!!! hell, this is fvcking disturbing.

anyway, i told the test proctor, he said i could talk to the dept. head after my exam. i said "okay," but was still shaken and couldn't concentrate on my exam. so, i told the test proctor i was going to the dept. head's office to report it.

instead, i went back into the bathroom. i cautiously walked up to the stall, and the guy was still there...i saw him sitting on the toilet. i just let loose. i threatened to kill him and told him to get the fvck out so i could proceed to bash his face in. he wouldn't open the stall door. i started kicking it, and with a few hard kicks (it's wooden...though i like to think i'm a pretty strong guy too)... i smashed the door in. he hurried to pull up his shorts. i tore the door off the hinges and through it on the ground. by this point he was yelling in his feminine voice "leave me alone," "don't hurt me" "i just had an upset stomach." BULL****. i punched him in the face (although he had his hands covering his face like a little girl) several time. i punched him so many times that my knuckles started to hurt...i'm sure his face got bruised up. as he was trying to curl into a ball, i kneeled him in the nose. no blood, but his face was pretty red.

anyway, i was kind of tired, so i let him go a bit. but i followed him, and as he was starting to run, i realized maybe i should get the guy's name to report him. he was pretty slow, so i caught up and grabbed him by his shirt and cussed him out to give me his name...i said that i wanted to report him (i think this was a bit stupid on my part, because why would he tell me his name?)...anyway, i let him go, and told him to get the fvck out...i pretty much forced him out of the building.
probably a fake story but either way you are an idiot

so is anybody that thought it was a good story
 

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToWomen
Gio you're starting to make a lot of new enemies...
Well that just breaks my heart.
 

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToWomen
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Encore!!!

This is the best story I ever heard!!!!

Nice fvcking job h20!!!! Show the f@gs that they can't fvck with us!! :cool:
this sounds odd coming from you

especially after seeing that pic of you and that hat with the black guy
 

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i agree with Gio 100%.

maybe this experience will teach you how to control your temper a little bit better and maybe how to have a little bit more sympathy.

like a lot of people have said already, your anger was understandable. your lack of self-discipline was not. this was bad judgment (or lack of judgment) on your part.

im sure a lot of "criminals" who are in jail now had the same mindset as you...but are they really bad people? not always. they just don't think when it's necessary.

~ j
 

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToWomen
It's called Halloween. :rolleyes:

And just so you know I got on lots of girls that night at U of I.
ok:D
 

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Gio, you are acting like a little dipsh*t going on a powertrip. Seriously.

We all know that what h20 did was not the 'right' thing to do, but in the heat of the moment sh*t happens. I can't say that I would not have acted any differently, in fact I dont think I would have gone back to the exam the first time. I would smash in the door and beat that guy to a bloody pulp. But that's just me.

I don't have any problems with homos as long as they don't push the envelope. I dont care what they do behind closed doors, really I dont care if some fat 40year old f*ck masturbates to dead animal porn at the privacy of his bedroom. But when they take sh*t public, they got to expect some consequences. Masturbating in a toilet stall while staring at another guy taking a leak, is something that is way past that line.
 

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Centuarian, just because you're as f*cked up as h2o doesn't make h2o any less wrong.

As for me going on a powertrip... well, call it whatever you like. Bothers me not in the slightest.

But maybe this will serve as a warning for everyone: if you're going to go around assaulting people, don't brag about it here.
 

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I beat a kid up in the 2nd grade. I also beat a kid up last year. Not sure if he was gay, but he got it good. :D
 

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
Hey, MindOverMatter, I apologize. I didn't know h2o was your boyfriend. I'll try to go easier on him out of respect for you.

As for your scenario with penkitten, she would have done NONE of the things that happened here. She would have gotten the hell out, she wouldn't have come back to see if the guy was still there, she wouldn't have tried to beat the sh*t out of him, she wouldn't have vandalized property, and she wouldn't have come here bragging about it. So as far as I'm concerned, although it's a pretty hypothetical, it's pretty much pointless.
Wow, it's ironic how you are calling me gay for disagreeing with you, yet you managed to get PRL banned for the very same thing. It's ok, I'm not gonna let myself get flamebaited and banned like PRL/P_S did.

No h2o is not my boyfriend, and as you can see from my photographs, I don't roll that way. I don't resort to meeting girls on sosuave either, I can do just fine meeting them in person.

I defended him like I'd defend any other guy in here if the situation was the same. If a girl was in his shoes and did the exact same thing, not only would she be a hero, but all her girls would support her, and guys would console her.

Yet when a guy is in the same situation, people turn on him, and threaten him and tell him he needs to see a counsellor. I'm not saying what he did was the right approach (personally I think he should have reported him to the campus security, and filed a lawsuit), but I am human enough to understand that the guy felt violated and wanted to defend himself, and prevent the pervert from doing the same to other people.

Gio, you know Penkitten better then I do, so you know how she'd act. But lets go out on a limb here. If she felt threatened or violated enough NOT TO ACT like you believe she would and beat up some pervert who was jerking off to her, and instead of bragging about this on sosuave she came to you, would you turn her in? Or what about one of your male buddies? Would you turn him in? There's no need for this hard-ass act, leave the guy alone.
 

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In was not in the heat of the moment. He left his class to go talk to a department head, then goes back to the bath room, knocks down the door, beats the guy, While the homo in his gay voice cryies out stop your hurting me (h2o's words.) The homo wasnt harming h2o in any physical way, it is h2o who made the situation violent. If you were smart you would have called campus security and let them handle it.

If it were a guy in the girls bathroom, it would be different. Women are weaker and have a valid reason to be scared if some man was jerking off in the ladies room. Grow up with all that if a b*** did it then it would be okay sh**. Stop acting like lil so suave DJ wanna be alpha b***s.
 

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
Wow, it's ironic how you are calling me gay for disagreeing with you, yet you managed to get PRL banned for the very same thing. It's ok, I'm not gonna let myself get flamebaited and banned like PRL/P_S did.
No, I'm not calling you gay, except that you are comparing your defense of h2o to my defense of penkitten. Penkitten is my fiance, so I just assumed that your defense of h2o was similar. You were the one equating the two.

No h2o is not my boyfriend, and as you can see from my photographs, I don't roll that way. I don't resort to meeting girls on sosuave either, I can do just fine meeting them in person.
As can I, but I certainly wasn't going to disregard penkitten just because she's from this site.

I defended him like I'd defend any other guy in here if the situation was the same. If a girl was in his shoes and did the exact same thing, not only would she be a hero, but all her girls would support her, and guys would console her.
Well that's an interesting comment. Did h2o beat up this guy because he was a pervert, or because he was a "homo"? It's interesting that this thread isn't titled "I beat up a pervert loser today". Further, he waited until he was back in his class, safe and far away from this guy. He chose to return. His act of violence was now no longer about feeling threatened, but about anger and wrath.

Yet when a guy is in the same situation, people turn on him, and threaten him and tell him he needs to see a counsellor. I'm not saying what he did was the right approach (personally I think he should have reported him to the campus security, and filed a lawsuit), but I am human enough to understand that the guy felt violated and wanted to defend himself, and prevent the pervert from doing the same to other people.
Self-defense is one thing. This guy didn't even come close to self-defense. This guy's reactions were so far beyond wrong, and if you can't see that, then I suppose that tells me an awful lot about you, too. Feeling violated -- fine. Want to defend yourself? From what, exactly? This guy didn't DO anything threatening. H2o was more than capable of "escaping", which he did. He returned though. With the full intention of attacking this guy. What he did was a serious crime.

Gio, you know Penkitten better then I do, so you know how she'd act. But lets go out on a limb here. If she felt threatened or violated enough NOT TO ACT like you believe she would and beat up some pervert who was jerking off to her, and instead of bragging about this on sosuave she came to you, would you turn her in? Or what about one of your male buddies? Would you turn him in? There's no need for this hard-ass act, leave the guy alone.
The situation all depends. I know penkitten enough to know that she absolutely would not act like this. Truly, your hypothetical situation is moot where it concerns her. She simply would not come to me saying, "Guess what? I beat up a gay loser today."

As for one of my friends... it would depend. If one of my guy friends came to me and said, "I just beat the sh*t out of some faggot", then yeah, I'd probably turn his ass in too. I can't think of too many of my friends who would do that, though.

Now, if one of my friends beat up some pervert in the men's room for a somewhat legitimate (if misguided) reason, then my sense of loyalty toward a friend might override any instinct to turn him in. But h2o isn't one of my good buddies, he's just some guy on the Internet bragging about thrashing a "homo". I don't owe him any loyalty.
 

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If it were a guy in the girls bathroom, it would be different. Women are weaker and have a valid reason to be scared if some man was jerking off in the ladies room. Grow up with all that if a b*** did it then it would be okay sh**. Stop acting like lil so suave DJ wanna be alpha b***s.
According to the same set of laws that you internet armchair lawyers/cops are following, women are equal to men under the eyes of the law and are not considered to be the weaker gender. The law also recognizes that men can be victims of crimes that usually apply to women (i.e. sexual assault, sexual harassement, and so on). If you're gonna pretend to be a lawyer, at least view things from an unbiased legal standpoint.

Yes what he did was pre-meditated, and I agree with you, he should have gone to the campus police. But it's obvious that he felt he was violated, and that he wanted to defend himself and teach the guy a lesson so he wouldn't keep doing it to other people. Under the same law, woman would be excused, yet when a guy does it, there's an angry mob with pitchforks. It's hypocritical.
 

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToWomen
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Encore!!!

This is the best story I ever heard!!!!

Nice fvcking job h20!!!! Show the f@gs that they can't fvck with us!! :cool:
Wow. I was just reading the guys story again, and then I read this. You must have done some lynchings in a past life... damn.
 

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
But it's obvious that he felt he was violated, and that he wanted to defend himself and teach the guy a lesson so he wouldn't keep doing it to other people. Under the same law, woman would be excused, yet when a guy does it, there's an angry mob with pitchforks. It's hypocritical.
The law does not condone vigilantism in women, either. Although most women would be smart enough not to go back.
 
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