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i am starting to doubt everything about alpha male

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You gotta do what's right for you and what you feel comfortable with. Masculinity, alpha, manliness, fatherhood... these aren't things that can be quantified by other men looking to make profit or boost their own ego. We all have to live our lives, we all have individual experiences and situations. The majority of things are true, but you need to create a bespoke version of alpha that aligns with your worldview, religious views, cultural and moral outlook.

There's more than 1 way to skin a cat. I think focusing on being a better person/man and relying on my own intuition has worked best for me. However, not everyone has the ability to rely on themselves and their mind so securely, I get that. I take everything I read, see and hear with a pinch of salt.
 

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The best advice to OP is to try to forget terms like alpha etc as it can quite easily end up making him look like a fake, or a moron.

best advice to OP at this point IMO:

- Strongly defend your own interests and friends, do not sacrifice your pre-relationship activities - don’t change your life up for her. Keep doing the things you enjoyed single.

- prioritise lifting, working and all those things that make you move forward in life.


Op has mentioned ego. This has nothing to do with alpha/ beta or whatnot.

Confidence isn’t egotism. If anything being egotistical is insecure behaviour and that’s not considered alpha.

what is termed alpha isn’t being an egotistical ****. If anything this is a cope from less confident men to bring down confident leaders
 

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alpha male stuffs probably work in western countries but here i am the best beta guy in the world to my girl but still she loves me like a crazy. i have held my ears jokingly in order to break her sadness many times but still she loves me. i have given her too much validation but still she cares for me and gets tension if am ever late
Yeap do that, and let's talk again in 2-3 years.

All though i don't really care about the Beta and Alpha crap because i believe it's pointless here is a quick analogy:

Alpha is about keeping the girl long-term attracted and emotionally attached that she does not want to leave.

Beta is about enjoying the short term process yet long-term you get destroyed when she throws you on the streets.

Good luck with that.
 

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Individual women are attracted to different things. This should not be a surprise. While most women are likely to be attracted to the archetypal strong leader with status, there are women who prefer men who don't fit this mold. It sounds like the OP did a good job of finding a woman who prefers men like him. Which is the best advice I can give any man.
Women are attracted to different things, but even though the OP and you might find a woman who is attracted to you, and even though she will tell you what traits she finds attractive, this doesn't mean she actually prefers men like you. It could be something in your voice, mannerisms, or how you move your eyes or hands.

I don't like to use those archetypes, but what I've found to be true is that the "alpha" male often peaks in his 20s/30s, until the "beta" male eventually surpasses him after his 40s. This is what most women are looking for when they're older and more mature (excluding the AWS ones).

You have to evolve in the relationship just as she does.
This sums up why you have everything together as a single person, and then turn into a chubby and boring man after you get married. It's hard to evolve "as she does" because eventually she will want things you can't give her (like "leaving your friends to spend more time with her"). It's better to say that you, as a man, have to evolve and see if she will eventually do the same.
 

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Women are attracted to different things, but even though the OP and you might find a woman who is attracted to you, and even though she will tell you what traits she finds attractive, this doesn't mean she actually prefers men like you. It could be something in your voice, mannerisms, or how you move your eyes or hands.

I don't like to use those archetypes, but what I've found to be true is that the "alpha" male often peaks in his 20s/30s, until the "beta" male eventually surpasses him after his 40s. This is what most women are looking for when they're older and more mature (excluding the AWS ones).



This sums up why you have everything together as a single person, and then turn into a chubby and boring man after you get married. It's hard to evolve "as she does" because eventually she will want things you can't give her (like "leaving your friends to spend more time with her"). It's better to say that you, as a man, have to evolve and see if she will eventually do the same.
No she won't unless you end up with a controlling woman and you have no respect for yourself and allow yourself to be a doormat.

People are treated the way they allow themselves to be treated. Period.
 

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You have to evolve in the relationship same as she does or elss you just end up having a surface level relationship that doesn't go any deeper and it peters out over time.
chubby and boring man after you get married.
I disagree with this, the woman has to evolved with me, not the other way around, if she stays behind even with the leadership of her man, then she just doesn't care about the relationship.

I don't like to use those archetypes, but what I've found to be true is that the "alpha" male often peaks in his 20s/30s, until the "beta" male eventually surpasses him after his 40s.
You don't like to use them but you use them?

Alpha and beta are behaviors dude, people have been throwing those words like its a medal to have.

Alpha are behaviors that create arousal: masculine frame, a strong body, a strong mind, a desire to keep overcoming challenges, not breaking under pressure, enforcing boundaries, being able to walk away, challenging her, not placing her on a pedestal, not making her your first prority, fvcking her good.

Beta are behaviors that create comfort (security): committing to a woman, giving love, saying lovely things, being lovey dovey, showing appreciation for the things she does, cuddling in bed after sex, being faithful to her.

You need both behaviors to have a healthy relationship. The problem today is that men offer too many Beta behaviors and early on, and have very few Alpha behaviors through the relationship, it doesn't anything have to do with age.
 

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I disagree with this, the woman has to evolved with me, not the other way around, if she stays behind even with the leadership of her man, then she just doesn't care about the relationship.


You don't like to use them but you use them?

Alpha and beta are behaviors dude, people have been throwing those words like its a medal to have.

Alpha are behaviors that create arousal: masculine frame, a strong body, a strong mind, a desire to keep overcoming challenges, not breaking under pressure, enforcing boundaries, being able to walk away, challenging her, not placing her on a pedestal, not making her your first prority, fvcking her good.

Beta are behaviors that create comfort (security): committing to a woman, giving love, saying lovely things, being lovey dovey, showing appreciation for the things she does, cuddling in bed after sex, being faithful to her.

You need both behaviors to have a healthy relationship. The problem today is that men offer too many Beta behaviors and early on, and have very few Alpha behaviors through the relationship, it doesn't anything have to do with age.
Meh...this is some immature level nonsense. Both people evolve in relationships or they don't work long term. Trying to run around beating your chest like you are king long every chance you get will end your relationship sooner than later.
 

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I disagree with this, the woman has to evolved with me, not the other way around, if she stays behind even with the leadership of her man, then she just doesn't care about the relationship.
Have you ever experienced a relationship where the woman was ahead and the man was left behind?
Alpha are behaviors that create arousal: masculine frame, a strong body, a strong mind, a desire to keep overcoming challenges, not breaking under pressure, enforcing boundaries, being able to walk away, challenging her, not placing her on a pedestal, not making her your first prority, fvcking her good.

Beta are behaviors that create comfort (security): committing to a woman, giving love, saying lovely things, being lovey dovey, showing appreciation for the things she does, cuddling in bed after sex, being faithful to her.
I have currently highlighted my behaviors.. those that currently describe me.
I would like to point out that you have described them very well. Congratulations!

@BackInTheGame78 I disagree, why?
 

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Have you ever experienced a relationship where the woman was ahead and the man was left behind?
Never, I never liked the idea of the woman I'm dating being ahead of me financially or physique wise. I always wanted to become the type of woman I wanted to attract.

I have currently highlighted my behaviors.. those that currently describe me.
That's is the joy if being in a relationship without cover contracts, without games, being you, your best version, no masks, the real you. Women will always perceived you are treating them better that you are actually are. That's why there is saying, with women, less is more
 
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