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I’ve recently started a small marketing firm in southern Orange County. I have 3 women (all unmarried, all in LTR’s, and are all in their mid to late 20s) and 6 men working for me (all late 20s early 30s, none of which I’d consider an extreme beta or AFC, but also not alphas).

Most of our clients are plastic surgeons and other doctors running cash-only practices. In other words, our clients are financially secure with high social status.

I’ve observed on more than one occasion the dismissive behavior and blatant devaluation of the male employees on my staff by these women. They only talk to the men when they need something from them, and don’t even say “good morning” or “hello” when they arrive. Common courtesy is a challenge for them. In fact, it doesn’t even enter their minds.

They will often shut their office doors in loud yet passive-aggressive fashion when men start talking “loudly” in an attempt to convey their distaste for male conversation. I’m treated with respect because I am the owner. The 6 other men are treated almost as if they have no value as human beings and are only tools to get things from.

We have a few local doctors as clients, 1 of which is physically appealing enough to have caught the eye of the females in my company. Suddenly, the 3 women are making excuses about how they need to “pay his office a visit to work out some problems with his account and provide more personal customer service.” Buying their bullsh!t story, I let them go. Silly me to think they actually cared about the wellbeing of the client’s account :crazy:

They came back later that afternoon, and started saying things like:

“Oh my God, there is an AURA around that man.”
“He’s like God on earth.”
“He walked in the room and it was like we were in the presence of the supernatural.”
“I would SO dump my BF if Dr. Unnamed would ask me out.”

One of the women even called her BF prior to the meeting and told him she would be late for their dinner because she had to “attend to an account that could be lost”. Keep in mind, the whole premise for their visit was contrived/concocted/made up as a way to get face time with this attractive, young plastic surgeon. There wasn’t anything so “wrong” with his account that it couldn’t be resolved through a quick email/phone call.

We also have a monthly interview of an arbitrary team member as a way of showing our clients who we are. Many of our doctors frequent our Facebook page and interact with us. Well, said female’s turn was up but no one was available to do her interview. I told her to make up her own questions, take her own picture, and post it on our Facebook wall. In a small company, sometimes you wear 2 hats. She agreed. Here are 2 of her self-prescribed questions:

Which client do you think is the MOST attractive and why?
Which client would you MOST like to date and why?

You can guess her answers to these.

Her picture consisted of a side profile body shot with her dress pulled up to about 4 inches below her tw@t in a desperate attempt to show as much leg as possible.

It was embarrassing to say the least, and as the employer of these “women” I wanted to fire them all on the spot and replace them with more competent male counterparts.

When his office calls, these women will all go above and beyond to handle his requests. Emails fire out in rapid succession and they all want answers NOW. You’d be hard pressed to find this same fervent devotion toward our other clients.

The point of this is to reiterate that women are ruthless when there is a man they perceive as higher value than their current dig. It’s because of this we must learn to be strong and we must learn how to maneuver with game and be men of high value. Ultimately, we want to have our lives on lockdown and be living on our own terms, not someone else’s.

We cannot control their disease, but we can figure it out and use it to get what we want.

It’s important to always make it clear to your woman that you are not to be taken for granted and have the b@lls to leave when the situation calls for it.
Hypergamy is a monster, and women are slaves to it. I see it every day. The stuff we talk about here on SoSuave is true and accurate. It’s not made up, it’s not BS. It’s reality.

Granted, not all women are as extreme in their hypergamy as Orange County “women”, but they all have this tendency to some degree or other.

Thanks for reading.
 

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Excellent post Origin. Its amazing what one can learn when you just sit back and observe.
 

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How would you rate these 3 female employees that work for you in terms of HB-ness? What are their ethnicity?

I am curious to find the common denominator of the three. Just pure trash and low quality, higher the HB. My theory is that they get more shallow as you go up and have no inner depth.

Good post +1

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Nicely said Origin spot on and clear explanation.

Women simply dont consider men as human beings with feelings or dignity, its all about how you place yourself in the social ladder.

You are the Ceo of the company you can do no wrong, you are the cleaner then you can do no good.

You see, we had some talking recently with Mike32 about that, as men we put women in two cathegories which are "doable" and "not doable", yet we dont consider as unhuman drones the girls which dont match our criteria to be attractive, we dont consider a woman to be less human or have less dignity just because the has a big nose or a fat ass.
We dont isolate fat girls from our bowling night or hide parties from them.

Women on the contrary get men, they create a pyramid and while those on the top have god status, those right below the top are not good for anything except of serve them, and being not even rewared when doing it, as if they were lesser humans from which servitude was granted for holy right.

You are a hot succesful guy you not only will not be c0ckblocked from her friends but they will also help you, they simply want you in their lifes and in their friends life cause you got the "approval mark", if you are an average guy hitting on her friend then you are simply "creepy" and any possible action must be done to make sure you can back down at you place.

Actions could be saying bvllsh1t to the bouncer to kick you out of the club, bad mouthing you at the office to make sure nobody supports you, not inviting you at parties while in high school in order to simply remove you from around their sight.

Hot guy grab a random girl at the club and kiss her? then u get them to have pictures with you all night.

Normal guy grab a random girl at the club and just pull her to the dance floor? sorry man its harrasment you should have had more "respect for women".

Not saying this to b1tch or complain but just keep in mind that women are the most racist individuals you'll ever see in this world, the disrespect they feel for "lesser men" is not inferior from the hate a kkk klansmen feels for a black man.

Just consider their "gay friendly" attitude, they all support gay marriage and such yet anytime a guy doesnt match their standard or dare to not show interest in them, the "faggot" label is thrown at him.

They always say how its superficial to evaluate someone only from his body only to make fun of a guy by saying to him how his d1ck is small.

What said works for about 90% of the women, even ugly chicks when allowed have the same attitude, dont expect any nice treat from a fattie.

Now that you know, make sure you dont get sucked up in that.
 

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these posts are all well and good....and correct its just this bit I have a problem with
origin138 said:
We cannot control their disease, but we can figure it out and use it to get what we want.
if you arent the young DJ suave plastic curgeon, how does this knowledge help?
 

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Danger said:
Congrats on your rising star and success by the way.
Thanks Danger. It's been a long time coming, but things have finally come together in a positive way.

GotED said:
How would you rate these 3 female employees that work for you in terms of HB-ness? What are their ethnicity?
The most hypergamous one (the one who lied and did the Facebook thing), I'd say she's an HB 7. If we factor in her feminist attitude she's bottom rung. She vacillates quickly and often between a "tough modern woman-feminist" veneer and submissiveness. I interpret this behavior to mean she really wants to find a man of value to submit too. You'd never hear her say that though. She's from Taiwan.

The other is an HB 6, former cheerleader, been with the same guy 9 years, typical entitled OC white girl. Behaves like things should just be handed to her, not earned. Her dad "turned gay" when she was 16, so she's suspicious of most men. Never flirts, but on that day, her wheels were spinning faster than her hamster.

The third one is an HB 5 on a good day and resembles a tank, she has a BF who owns a successful food truck company and is quite good-looking (no homo). Based on things she's said, he's not a spineless guy which probably explains why she's not nearly as bad as the other two.

Common denominators? All products of the same feminized university, all products of southern OC (even the girl from Taiwan has been in OC for a long time but her family is very traditional), all entitled, all in their 20s in LTRs.

Who Dares Win said:
You see, we had some talking recently with Mike32 about that, as men we put women in two cathegories which are "doable" and "not doable", yet we dont consider as unhuman drones the girls which dont match our criteria to be attractive, we dont consider a woman to be less human or have less dignity just because the has a big nose or a fat ass.
We dont isolate fat girls from our bowling night or hide parties from them.

Women on the contrary get men, they create a pyramid and while those on the top have god status, those right below the top are not good for anything except of serve them, and being not even rewared when doing it, as if they were lesser humans from which servitude was granted for holy right.
You make a lot of good points in your reply. It is ironic how even the most douchey of men will still accept less than average-looking females even as companions albeit not sleep with them (and in some cases may).

Women don't even try to hide their contempt for men they perceive as having no value. As I mentioned, it's almost like they don't even recognize these men as human beings. They're merely objects that provide one-way benefits in the direction of the woman. They can't "see" outside themselves.

I have to be cautious about what I say to the men I work with because of workplace laws, but a few of them have mentioned the dismissive/borderline disrespectful behavior gets old and hinders productivity. They have told me they are constantly filtering what they say so as to not offend the women.

Being a very "non-corporate" agency, we don't have a formal HR department, and we never will for good reason. I just don't care about "women feelings" in the workplace. They know this coming in. Words are free to fly, as are playful insults and jabs. I make this clear in the interview process. I also make it clear we have no HR department so they understand that playing the female card is a hard-fought battle.

We all make jokes at each other's expense from time to time. As long as we all walk the line of mutual respect, the process works. I encourage the men to not walk on eggshells and to be bold and blunt when they need to be. If the females want to shut the door and isolate themselves, let them. As long as their work is top notch, we don't have to deal with them and that's fine by me. It would be great if we could all be the proverbial "big happy family", but the female behavior (intolerance of men and the mannerisms of men) prevent this from happening.

I will openly admit to being sexist in this regard as this has been a BIG learning experience. I will think twice before hiring another female. My experience with women is that many are very good workers, but unfortunately they bring a lot of other crap with it. Many simply create a lot of disruption where there shouldn't be any, but when called on it the typical retort is "it's men's reactions to women that cause the problems, not the women themselves." I call bullsh!t on this as this has not been my experience.
 

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betheman said:
if you arent the young DJ suave plastic curgeon, how does this knowledge help?
Good point. This guy is good looking and very high status. Even if you are motivated to improve, it's going to take you eight, ten, or more years to become a plastic surgeon. Not something you accomplish overnight. And you can only do so much to change your looks. Danger is right, not many men can know what it's like to walk around with such high value.

I've seen similar behavior from women, from the complaints about their husbands to the gushing over the good looking doctors. It really is almost as if a god walked into the room. You've got to have more going for you than just game to get that reaction.

I guess the best most guys can do is just keep working on improving and increasing their value as much as they can. Looks and status is a hard combination to beat, however.
 

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zekko said:
Good point. This guy is good looking and very high status. Even if you are motivated to improve, it's going to take you eight, ten, or more years to become a plastic surgeon. Not something you accomplish overnight. And you can only do so much to change your looks. Danger is right, not many men can know what it's like to walk around with such high value.

I've seen similar behavior from women, from the complaints about their husbands to the gushing over the good looking doctors. It really is almost as if a god walked into the room. You've got to have more going for you than just game to get that reaction.

I guess the best most guys can do is just keep working on improving and increasing their value as much as they can. Looks and status is a hard combination to beat, however.
Awesome insight as always Zekko. What confuses me is this: This doctor is good-looking, has money and social status, but he's a quite a pvssy. He gets angry/upset over the most mundane things and his standards are impossibly high with everything. In terms of intelligence, he doesn't just practice cosmetic medicine, he also writes textbooks and publishes in medical journals. But when you meet this guy, you can't help but notice that he's very immature.

How much does inner game matter in the grand scheme of things? I've seen guys who lack an MD and big paychecks pull attractive women because they are strong as fvck in handling the rigors of life. I can't imagine a woman "relying" on this doctor for anything other than money and status. In fact, I would imagine his perfectionism pushing most women away.

While this guy makes good money, has good looks, and dresses well, he seems to struggle with the basics of life (i.e. being told "no").

It seems that inner game/self mastery isn't given enough air time on SoSuave, and it's on topic I'd love to hear an open discussion on. In my opinion it is the single hardest attribute to improve.
 

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origin138 said:
Awesome insight as always Zekko. What confuses me is this: This doctor is good-looking, has money and social status, but he's a quite a pvssy. He gets angry/upset over the most mundane things and his standards are impossibly high with everything. In terms of intelligence, he doesn't just practice cosmetic medicine, he also writes textbooks and publishes in medical journals. But when you meet this guy, you can't help but notice that he's very immature.

How much does inner game matter in the grand scheme of things? I've seen guys who lack an MD and big paychecks pull attractive women because they are strong as fvck in handling the rigors of life. I can't imagine a woman "relying" on this doctor for anything other than money and status. In fact, I would imagine his perfectionism pushing most women away.

While this guy makes good money, has good looks, and dresses well, he seems to struggle with the basics of life (i.e. being told "no").

It seems that inner game/self mastery isn't given enough air time on SoSuave, and it's on topic I'd love to hear an open discussion on. In my opinion it is the single hardest attribute to improve.
It all goes back to the same principle, if a nurse is 50 he is old, if the chief doctor is 50 he is mature.

If a delivery guy cant take a no he is immature, if a good looking plastic surgeon cant deal with a no he is eccentric.

Its not about the behaviour but he who does it, a high status can do no wrong a low status can do no good.
A complimenting high status man is charming, a complimenting low status guy is creepy/needy.

A top guy touch her ass its aggressive courting, a low status man touch her ass then its sexual harassment.
 

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Who Dares Win said:
It all goes back to the same principle, if a nurse is 50 he is old, if the chief doctor is 50 he is mature.

If a delivery guy cant take a no he is immature, if a good looking plastic surgeon cant deal with a no he is eccentric.

Its not about the behaviour but he who does it, a high status can do no wrong a low status can do no good.
A complimenting high status man is charming, a complimenting low status guy is creepy/needy.

A top guy touch her ass its aggressive courting, a low status man touch her ass then its sexual harassment.
I think these are decent general principles but not absolutes. it doesnt always pan out like this, high status does buy you more forgiveness and leveridge though.

the message of this thread appears to be, if you are good looking, high status = money..and justifiably so, however, what do guys who do not fit this criteria do with this info? try and improve as we all may, we cant all succeed, in fact, few of us can actually succeed, in any competition anywhere in the world, the spoils of battle are shared between very few while the fields of battle are littered with the dead, dying and wounded.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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origin138 said:
What confuses me is this: This doctor is good-looking, has money and social status, but he's a quite a pvssy. He gets angry/upset over the most mundane things and his standards are impossibly high with everything. In terms of intelligence, he doesn't just practice cosmetic medicine, he also writes textbooks and publishes in medical journals. But when you meet this guy, you can't help but notice that he's very immature.

How much does inner game matter in the grand scheme of things? I've seen guys who lack an MD and big paychecks pull attractive women because they are strong as fvck in handling the rigors of life. I can't imagine a woman "relying" on this doctor for anything other than money and status. In fact, I would imagine his perfectionism pushing most women away.

While this guy makes good money, has good looks, and dresses well, he seems to struggle with the basics of life (i.e. being told "no").

It seems that inner game/self mastery isn't given enough air time on SoSuave, and it's on topic I'd love to hear an open discussion on. In my opinion it is the single hardest attribute to improve.
There's plenty of built in mechanisms that make a woman wet in the panties.

One is seeing a reasonably cute guy with tons of cash, AND the RIGHT KIND of influence.

One of the reasons they think he "walks on water" or whatever it was, is that he's got cash, he's a doctor, which has a LOT of social proof and authority, AND he's the kind of doctor who deals with rich beautiful people.

So when these floozies imagine themselves with him, they imagine having Cash AND and buttloads of social status. That is HUGELY seductive. In this particular case, his particular personality means squat.

If he had the same level of game, made the same cash, but was some kind of anal surgeon for retired people, he wouldn't be nearly as attractive to them.

When these girls see him, they consciously imagine being with him, and triggers loads of unconscious desire.

Now, guys with low paying jobs, no education that have wicked game are operating on a different level.

Their confidence, communication skills, self respect, and perhaps kindness (not nice guy, kindness out of desperation but genuine kindness) is triggering the girl's desires on a completely unconscious level.

They'd be hard pressed to describe specifically WHY they like this guy so much.

The doc is like this:

His status-->their conscious minds--->unconscious attraction

While some blue collar worker is like this:

His BEHAVIOR-->unconscious attraction.

The kind of behavior that demonstrates Alpha-ness in pretty much every room he walks into.


The reason inner game is so incredibly attractive, is because it's an indicator of wealth, on a deeper level than wealth itself.

Throughout the course of human history, men developed "attraction" for signals of youth and fertility (firm breasts, slim legs, flat stomachs, smooth skin, honest smiles) while women developed "attraction" for signals of wealth, status, and power.

One signal of wealth is being an alpha, and having powerful communication skills.

Another sign of wealth is a high paying job and status.

Naturally, they are not mutually exclusive.

Perhaps alpha-ness is a signal of "potential wealth" which may be more attractive than actual wealth, at least on a deep subconscious level. Or maybe alpha-ness is a signal of true, life long wealth, while actual money wealth may be fleeting, especially when held by an ultra-beta.

A good book on the subject is this one:

The Mating Mind

The takeaway from this long rambling post? Getting to the top ain't easy.

You need wealth, real wealth, AND inner game.

Do whatever it takes to build both.
 

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origin138 said:
What confuses me is this: This doctor is good-looking, has money and social status, but he's a quite a pvssy. He gets angry/upset over the most mundane things and his standards are impossibly high with everything. In terms of intelligence, he doesn't just practice cosmetic medicine, he also writes textbooks and publishes in medical journals. But when you meet this guy, you can't help but notice that he's very immature.
The guys looks, wealth, and high status are attraction factors that get the girls' attention. If they manage to actually get a date or relationship with the guy, they're probably going to start resenting him at some point because of his sh!tty personality. They may start out blinded to his flaws because of his high sexual market value. If he marries one of these girls, he's probably going to end up in divorce court coughing up a lot of money. Especially if they have kids together.

betheman said:
the message of this thread appears to be, if you are good looking, high status = money..and justifiably so, however, what do guys who do not fit this criteria do with this info? try and improve as we all may, we cant all succeed, in fact, few of us can actually succeed, in any competition anywhere in the world, the spoils of battle are shared between very few while the fields of battle are littered with the dead, dying and wounded.
Not all guys can be on that level. But I don't agree with the whole "women will only bang the 10% elite men" concept. Look around, there are couples hooking up all around you. Improve yourself and raise your value where you can. You don't need to be a plastic surgeon to get laid, or even to get a girlfriend.

When I first started studying this seduction stuff, I thought maybe there was some sort of "magic pill" where if I dressed and moved a certain way, I could walk into a room and all women would instantly desire me - kind of like the surgeon. But that was the kind of naivete that allows pickup gurus to fleece guys out of their money.

We can't all get that reaction, but we can work constantly to improve and raise our value. I may not have rooms full of girls drooling over me when I walk into it, but the ones I have given a chance to have been genuinely pleased to be with me.
 

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Yep, that "women will only bang the 10% elite men" statement is way too general and needs to be specified. I guess this has already be done in other threads or it can be taken from one of Rollo's blog posts, so perhaps someone can sum it up again?

The first thing that comes to my mind when I read that statement, is that it doesn't factor in the value of different women. I'm sure the statement holds more truth when it is being applied to a Victoria's secret model than when it is being applied to a HB6.5 cleaning lady...
 

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Very good post.

However, I would like some viewpoints on the complete opposite situations.

Why would I, a humble landscaper, be attractive to girls from very high to mega high backgrounds?

Some examples ~ A Lords daughter, a surgeons (surgeon to the King of Swedens) daughter, Daughter of a famous racehorse trainer, daughter of wealthy business men etc etc........ granted, there was a BPD amongst these..... but why? Could they smelll the sexx oozing from me? O just a manly face/bod (no six pack tho)
 

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I like this post. And I like what Who Dares Said too! It shows how much men value love, but women love value.

A lot of us on here might not be handsome millionaires. Then again, how would this forum look if every member was a handsome millionaire?

Hypergamy is at so big of a high right now that even the fatties, uglies, and fuglies are shunning the average man. All these reality shows make women think that there's a handsome millionaire out there for them somewhere if they just hold out longer. Even women past 50 think like this! And it's not women who have trouble getting men, barring committment. It's men who have trouble getting women. Hence why so many men are "dating down" and women are "dating up."

When you're high status, you can beat up a woman and get away with it. Chris Brown anyone? Let someone on this board beat up a woman, there's gonna be white knights out of the woodworks!

I live in Atlanta, and hypergamy is high as hell. But that's nothing to what I've heard about California hypergamy. California takes hypergamy up to eleven!
 

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I like this post and don't disagree but am I the only one who thinks its a bit silly to be using the women of Orange County as examples of "women"?

Isn't OC the "superficial" capital of the world? Aren't there reality shows about the b!tches from these parts?
 

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I think it's more accurate to say that 90% of the women want to **** 10% of the men, not that 90% of the women DO **** 10% of the men.

Hypergmay in my experience deals more with what women want and not what women actually get. I don't see HB 6's not settling for BETA males beucase htey all want to **** the doctor beucase in real life that HB 6 wants a house and a car and a TV and insurance and BETA males make all that possible. She might not be in love with him but she'll marry him. She'll settle for him. At least until she has a commitment from something better. Also the social pressure for women is 100x greater than for us to be "taken" by a certain age, so being with a man she isn't head over heels with, is better than being alone. it's not tactful for a woman to be alone.

Look at your OP example. the young surgeon could probably **** any woman in the office if he so chose, but he's not ****ing all of them. hell he's not ****ing ANY of them. Why? beucase he can probably **** better. He probably IS ****ing better. And beucase he's well, a doctor, he doesn't have time to **** every last thing that walks so he can only spend time with women he desires. which makes him even more "alpha" or a contextual alpha at least.

For Hypergamy to function completely there has to be two parties. there has to be a woman looking to move up and there has to be a male who believes that the woman is of greater or at least equal value as himself.


Isn't OC the "superficial" capital of the world? Aren't there reality shows about the b!tches from these parts?
what socal lacks in morality it makes up for in it's sheer number of hot women. Just everywhere. Every 3rd waitress in a restaurant came to LA to be an aspiring actress and is HOT or at least really really really cute. they got to **** someone stuck up or not lol.

Daughter of a famous racehorse trainer
wouldn't happen to be aiden o'briens daughter would it? she's not half bad.


i had to take a guy I know to see his probation officer yesterday. his car had broke down he asked me for a ride. anyway so we are sitting in the little probation office waiting room and there is this girl, she's like young 20's white, short, skinny as hell, about a HB5.5-6. not UGLY but not something worth writting home about. and from what i gather in the converation, the guyu sitting next to her is her husband. and someone got talking about somethinga nd some how the topic of sex came up and i mean, in the middle of the damn probation office room she just blurts out "i only give it up when i have to, he sleeps on his side of the bed and i sleep on mine, there isn't anything going on". they coudl not possibly have been married for more than 2-3 years at most she can't be older than 25. and I mean the dude is right there and everyone is looking at him and now knows damn this dude isn't getting any play.

I say that to say this is the girl who settles but dreams. this si what most girls do. they will settle for you. but they still long for another man that can fufill fantieis and ****.

the way i see it it's not so much about finding a woman, if you take care of yourself a woman will come around. the real key is making sure that she isn't marrying you for the paycheck or to play daddy. this girl put it on him enough to get the ring and that was a wrap lol.

I think what i am saying is the way I see it the point of the OP is not so much to say women are *****s, but you have to really really test to see if your girl likes you or just finds you convenient. these girls find their current LTR's convenient.
 

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TonyBaloney said:
Why would I, a humble landscaper, be attractive to girls from very high to mega high backgrounds?

Some examples ~ A Lords daughter, a surgeons (surgeon to the King of Swedens) daughter, Daughter of a famous racehorse trainer, daughter of wealthy business men etc etc........ granted, there was a BPD amongst these..... but why? Could they smelll the sexx oozing from me? O just a manly face/bod (no six pack tho)
You're the hot pool boy that the rich girl has sex with.
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I also note that you work outside. Something that is rarely mentioned on this site is how attractive a good tan can be. Women know it, that's why they're in the tanning booths so much. Too bad it's bad for your skin.

Also, some girls know they are set for life because of their family's wealth. So they don't have to worry about finding the provider type so much. And if they can get the disapproval of their families, so much the better for the ones going through a rebellious streak.
 

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backbreaker said:
what socal lacks in morality it makes up for in it's sheer number of hot women. Just everywhere. Every 3rd waitress in a restaurant came to LA to be an aspiring actress and is HOT or at least really really really cute.
yeah, so not really "normal"...
 

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origin138 said:
Awesome insight as always Zekko. What confuses me is this: This doctor is good-looking, has money and social status, but he's a quite a pvssy. He gets angry/upset over the most mundane things and his standards are impossibly high with everything. In terms of intelligence, he doesn't just practice cosmetic medicine, he also writes textbooks and publishes in medical journals. But when you meet this guy, you can't help but notice that he's very immature.

How much does inner game matter in the grand scheme of things? I've seen guys who lack an MD and big paychecks pull attractive women because they are strong as fvck in handling the rigors of life. I can't imagine a woman "relying" on this doctor for anything other than money and status. In fact, I would imagine his perfectionism pushing most women away.

While this guy makes good money, has good looks, and dresses well, he seems to struggle with the basics of life (i.e. being told "no").

It seems that inner game/self mastery isn't given enough air time on SoSuave, and it's on topic I'd love to hear an open discussion on. In my opinion it is the single hardest attribute to improve.
In some professions, being a perfectionist is pretty much a must. Being a surgeon is one of those jobs that you really can't half ass. You just can't run a successful medical practice the way you run your business (i.e. employing unprofessional idiots who hit on clients instead of doing work). This guy may be demanding but that's because he's under a lot of pressure himself.

The real question is, why aren't you disciplining your female employees when they get out of line? Sounds like you are the one who is a bit of a pvssy.
 

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