How would you handle this scenario?

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Originally posted by Pimp-sicle
OpenMind: I actually disagree with you on her not caring about me as much as I do for her. She's very emotional. When I hit a nerve with her, it takes her a while to get over it. Where as I'm the type of person to USUALLY not let things get to me. Obiviously this is not the case right now. Being a player before all this happened, I know I wouldn't spend 8 months trying to get the upper hand on someone.

Before this past week everything was going very well. She was the one asking to hangout all the time, not me. I think the fact that I've brought up this frustration about the stage of the relationship a few times recently has bothered her into thinking I'm doubting her devotion to me. I'm not doubting her, because we always say judge girls on what they do, not what they say. And her "doing" has been above and beyond what I expected from her.

Believe it or not she's a really awesome girl 90% of the time. She's smart, sexy, funny and great company. I just feel like sometimes she's got multiple personalities.

Like I said before, if I didn't have any feelings for her, it would be so easy to just turn my back and walk away. Ignore her and I'd be fine within a day or two. But that's not what's going on. I might be ignoring a huge red flag, and this might end up blowing up in my face, but my gut instinct is telling me that this will work out. Who knows, I'm blinded right now, so I can't be thinking to logically.

I'll keep you updated.




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After reading that I was going to click on the quote button and have at it, but read the following posts. I'm sorry she has done this to you, and even I'm still paying back the karma bank. :( But as others said red flags everywhere and like the other guy said she had a b/f and was cheating with you.. very bad sighn. Almost every LTR I used to have was with girls I'd stolen with my DJ behaviour. It never turned out well as they repeated the pattern when the next pimp came along. Its only now that I'm trieng to be a "normal" man and just have a normal relationship that I'm struggling. Thank god I'm not AFC though, which you were slowly becoming as indicated in your posts.

Normally I would say just ignore her, but she needs to be put in her place somehow. As the next dude in line is hearing now how you were the lame AFC in her stories. :mad:

Also the last relationship I had, (few months ago) I learned something very valuable. Never ignore that little voice when it tells you she's doing something. Paranoid actions are one thing, but sometimes your voice is very clear. I had that several times with my last g/f. I screamed at myself from the inside out, and still I let my desire for "serious sex and companionship" cloud my judgement. It was'nt until I found out that the very first time I knew something was up, was proven right, did I know the rest were too. I ended it and quickly. Now that little voice (call it strong instinct or intuition if you prefer) will be the primary thing I listen too. You should do the same.

Never ignore that little voice, or PRL.. lol
 

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Well I thought it was FINALLY over, but its not!!! So like I said yesterday she called me and let me a very nice message. I listened to the message and laughed. I was laying in bed around 1am and she called again. She didn't leave a message this time and I said, "Fuvk it I'm going to call her and tell her how it is" so she doesn't call me everyday!!

So I call her and she asks me why I didn't call her back and I told her I didn't want to. She then asks if I'm mad at her, and I say no I'm just tired of all your bullshyt.
She asks me what I'm specifically talking about. So I call her out and tell her she's a liar and I can't build a relationship with a liar because there's no trust in her. I go on to tell her I know she went out on a date with the guy from her work and that I wasn't upset about her going, but I was upset about her disrespect to me. I have told her repeatedly that if she wants to be young and date then I'd understand. She kept telling me that she didn't want to date other people she only wanted to be with me.

So after I confront her about it, she goes, "I didn't go on a date with the guy from my work!" I tell her not lie and that our mutal friend told me you did. She explains that yes, the guy from her work asked her out on a date, but she brushed it off without giving him a yes/no. She even said our mutal friend goes, "you should go." But that's only because our mutal friend thought that me and her weren't dating or whatever we were at the time. She then told me it upsets her that I'd believe what people outside of our relationship would tell me. I told her normally I wouldn't believe it, but because she tends to lie about dumb stuff it sounded valid.

On top of the fact that she was being very short, rude and flakey with me this week for the 1st time ever, it gave me the impression that she wanted to distance herself from me.

She continued saying that she has such deep feelings for me, she cares about me so much and how rare it is to meet someone that you connect with on all levels like we do. She said that she quit one of her jobs so she'd now have a lot more time for me and she was excited about that.

She told me that I'm such a higher caliber guy than any other chump she's ever dated. She said that's why she was telling me about all her little tricks she pulled with her AFC ex's because me and her could laugh about it. She then explained how she was telling me she didn't want to be like that anymore. She said she really cares about me and that she knows this will be a great lasting relationship where she actually does have feelings for the other person.

The conversation carried on for about an hour and then she goes, "so where does that leave us?" I asked her what she wanted and she said, "I want to be with you." She goes, but that doesn't matter unless you want that too. I told her I'd have to think about it.

She even said she knows I'm going through a lot of other bullshyt in my life and that if she's an added stress on me that she'd step aside and still be there for me as friend, and then we could give it a go later.

She constantly reminded me that she's got geninue feelings for me and she said "but if you don't believe a word I say then I don't know what to tell you."

I guess I'm just really not going to fret over it and I'll make a decision when it comes to me.




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Ill add my opinion to the thread.

First, the girl is probably suffering from Borderline personality disorder. She shows alot of the classic signs.

Next, although she is a liar, you really only have your mutual friends word that she went on another date, and you yourself admitted that that friend had a thing for you before. So take that with a grain of salt.

Plus, in reality, she flat out told you that she wasnt totally ready for a serious committment before, and she held to that. You were the one pressuring and fretting over every little thing that happened. If you notice however, AS SOON as you stop pursueing her, her tune changed dramtically. Typical.

You best bet is to tell her you like hanging with her, you think there is a possibility of something more, and just tell her you'll see how things go. THEN STOP OVERANALYZING EVERYTHING AND PRESSURING HER!!! And I almost gaurnatee you things will fall into place. Give her what she asked for, and I have a feeling she'll come around.

That being said, wtf do you want to be with her for??? SHell only end up breaking your heart. SHes a liar, a cheat, and she cheated on her ex with you. What makes you think that sooner or later she wont do the same to you? Plus like I said, she suffers from BPD...and you need to run run run away from those most of the time.
 

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Jay:

Your right we've already established that she's suffering from some type of psychological problem. The talk we had yesterday was really good. I admitted to her that neither of us are really ready for a serious commitment because we both don't trust eachother.

Your right there's a big chance that I might get hurt, but there's an equal chance that she'd get hurt as well. Plus that's what a relationship is all about. Putting yourself on the line for the possiblity of somthing great.

There's no way to tell if she'd do the samething to me or not, as far as cheating is concerned. I know her word is not that trustworthy, but she's repeatedly said to me that she doesn't want to be in relationships where she really doesn't have actual feelings for the other person anymore. She told me she has deep strong feelings for me and that she knows it would be so different with me. I believe that to a certain extent.


I know I've come off as highly insecure over the last week. But the truth of the matter was my heart was on the line and I think that'd make anyone a little insecure. Its tough man, its a rollercoaster of emotions and mixed thoughts. I think I'll just trust my gut on this one and do what feels right for me.



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Originally posted by Pimp-sicle

Its tough man, its a rollercoaster of emotions and mixed thoughts. I think I'll just trust my gut on this one and do what feels right for me.

It sure is. I hope this doesnt mean you are going to break up with her, then try agian in a week, then go through the whole mess again?

Because what you just said is what ALL guys say when they cant find the self control they need in a situation like this. U are just going to put yourself through more mixed emotions (most bad), and end up making this whole situation twice as hard on yourself!
 

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Read my last post. Looks like the manipulation has already begun and you are being sucked in. Don't listen to her words, watch her actions. Her actions say LOW interest while her words say HIGH interest. Quit while you are ahead.. I have been in your shoes and know what it is like. You are gonna wish you bailed from this one and took the advice that most of us here have given you. Run from this one while you still have your pride. Sounds like this one is gonna take you for a ride everytime you buy her bullsh*t.

Read this thread over again from the beginning and think about whats going on logically..... nuff said..
 
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Originally posted by Pimp-sicle
She kept telling me that she didn't want to date other people she only wanted to be with me.

So after I confront her about it, she goes, "I didn't go on a date with the guy from my work!" I tell her not lie and that our mutal friend told me you did. She explains that yes, the guy from her work asked her out on a date, but she brushed it off without giving him a yes/no.
This is the shyt talk I hate, "I brushed him off by not giving him an answer." What the hell is this double talk - why didn't she just say no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now she gave him hope!! If it is not an outright 'No' and a clear rejection from a girl then from the guy's perspective this is a potential future 'Yes'!! I can't believe alarm bells didn't ring in your head when she said this!! You are too tolerant of disrespect!!

Pimpsicle, I think you are dating my last girlfriend!!!! RUN!!!

This girls has you on an emotional rollercoaster! Why go through this? Oh yeah, she is really pretty! :rolleyes:

For a fun project have one of your friends do surveillance on her when she knows you'll be out of town or away for the weekend!! And then post the results here.
 

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You guys might be right, I might be in for the most extreme bullshyt that I've ever had to deal with. And I haven't really thought about what I'm going to do as far as continuing the relationship or bailing ship right now.

I'm just going to give it time and I think however long that takes for me to come up with the right choice for me, then that's what I'll do. I'm not going to jump back on her bandwagon and act like everything is ok, but at the same time I'm not going to shut her out. We will see.



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I've come up with a clever way to figure out if she went on the date with the guy from her work or if she truly didn't. I've got another buddy who is somewhat close with her. He lives close to both of us and I guess he visits her at work ocassionally. He told me he'd easily be able to get that info outta her. So I'll just wait for the word from him.

And ya'll are right, actions speak mounds above words.

But like I said, why in the world would this girl say all these deep emotional things to me if she didn't really want something with me? I think that's what keeps me confused about this whole thing. She could easily go out and get another boatload of guys to give her attention and all, but she chooses to come back to me? I think she's just as confused as I am.


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Do a search on google for Histronic Personality Disorder. You will find a picture of your girl on one of those psychology websites..
 

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Originally posted by Pimp-sicle

With summer here a lot of her friends from high school are coming back home and she obiviously wants to see them too. This basically has left little time for me and her. I get to see her 2 times a week right now. And even then its only for a couple hours, unless we go to a party together.

2 times a week isn't that much? Hell I often only see my gf once a week and she's NEVER busy (I on the other hand, am).
 

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Bro first of all no offense but your 14, maybe 15. I'm dealing with a girl who has a personality disorder. To be honest with you it was never an issue of not seeing her enough. Sure I'd like to see her a little more, but its because I don't trust her worth 2 shiats that made me tell her I want to see her more.

I'm just realizing how crazy this whole thing has been. I'm going to go meet new girls and hopefully that will help me realize that I should/NEED to be over this.


Open Mind: Dood!!!! That's scary!! I looked up those personality disorders and she definitely has a combination of those going on. She's told me she's loves attention, she is sexually promiscuos and she definitely seems like Dr. Jekyl & Mr. Hyde on ocassion. I must be whacked out in the head somewhat to for wanting her still....LOL




PIMP-more confused with each day



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Pimp, first find out whether she really lied to you or not about the date.

But it is pretty clear that she has lied to you at some point about something important in your relationship (just like she has lied to everyone else in her life.)

You will have to move on to another girl some time soon anyway. Might as well do it now rather than wait till later when her moral character and her lying ways will leave lasting scars on you.
 

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JUSTDOITALWAYS: I've got my buddy still working on trying to get that info about the date. But the fact is she's got a serious personality disorder. My buddy was telling me is good friend dated her in high school and he got so confused by her personality that he couldn't handle it anymore either.

I don't give a shiat if she went out on the date or not, my gut is telling me that she DID go more than she didn't. She's started calling me again everyday, but I don't know how to handle ditching her. Don't know if I should tell her we are better off as friends or if I should just keep talking to her and blow off her invites to go hang out.

MUCH THANKS to OPEN MIND, he's helped me see what's going on beneath the lines.

Fact is if I ever got in a relationship with this girl, I 'd always be wondering what she's up to when she's not with me and if I could believe what she says. That's the foundation for disaster and hurt, not love and fun.

Ok, I really promise this time, I'm walking away for GOOD!! The only way I'll add to this post is if I find out anything about the date she might have went on.


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Nice that you single out one person only for a TY, and he only summed up what we all said to you a 1,000 times. Oh, my bad he had a link that's in my favorites folder.. :rolleyes:

(no disrespect to openmind intended, I hate rude actions)

Do yourself a favor and quit flip-flopping. It's annoying to tell someone to do the same thing over, and over, and over again, and have their AFC'ness keep sucking them back in.

YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

If you go back with her, I will not respect any of your future posts until you wise up. If your not going to see her anymore then it does'nt matter if she dated the guy or not. I highly suspect you will be with her again shortly. Your still obsessing about what she does and having her spied on.

For the love of god.. stop being a chump and move the hell on man! :D
 

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Originally posted by RabidDog
Nice that you single out one person only for a TY, and he only summed up what we all said to you a 1,000 times. Oh, my bad he had a link that's in my favorites folder.. :rolleyes:

(no disrespect to openmind intended, I hate rude actions)

Do yourself a favor and quit flip-flopping. It's annoying to tell someone to do the same thing over, and over, and over again, and have their AFC'ness keep sucking them back in.

YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

If you go back with her, I will not respect any of your future posts until you wise up. If your not going to see her anymore then it does'nt matter if she dated the guy or not. I highly suspect you will be with her again shortly. Your still obsessing about what she does and having her spied on.

For the love of god.. stop being a chump and move the hell on man! :D


Rabid: Bro did you talk to me on the phone for 3 hours explaining how you dealt with a girl who had a similiar personality disorder???? I didn't think so!! Stop being a slap-divk and assuming that I'm only thankful to him.

I know that all of you posted and gave me your true, honest opinion about what was going on and for that I'm very thankful. That's obivious, I shouldn't have to say that.

This has nothing to do with AFC'ness and all your other little sosuave slang. Its about a seriously fuvked in the head girl, who has unintentionally fuvked with everyone she's come in contact with. Its really suxs bro, she's sick in the head and she really doesn't evenr realize it.

I really could give two shiat about whether you think I'm going to go crawling back like a little byatch or not. I'm telling you I'm not goiing to and like I already said, it doesn't matter whether she went on this date or not, its not worth my time to be her savior.

I just feel really bad for her and for all the guys she's going to do this to.



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Defensive posting will not make things better either. You say "all your DJ lingo" like you never use it. It's in most of your posts. So don't act like a seperatist on us now. :) And no.. I didn't talk to you on the phone about some head-case, I have better things to do. Especially.. when tons of people have said it would be best to leave her be.

I'm sorry my time is more valauble than that. If she needs help, then take her to a liscensed medical doctor that deals with her exact issues. Don't play a doctor and try to go all "romantic comedy" on her. If she doesnt want to go (she wont) then you cant make her, and you need to cut all contact with her anyway.

Your getting angry and defensive shows alot you know. I wasnt calling you a 8itch or a punk, I was, as we all were.. trieng to clear the fog surrounding your head. Like I said, you are better than this behavior. And you do care about if she went on the date, because you said you'd still post on it! :eek:

Well if your going to get angry about this, then I will leave you alone.

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Originally posted by RabidDog
Defensive posting will not make things better either. You say "all your DJ lingo" like you never use it. It's in most of your posts. So don't act like a seperatist on us now. :) And no.. I didn't talk to you on the phone about some head-case, I have better things to do. Especially.. when tons of people have said it would be best to leave her be.

I'm sorry my time is more valauble than that. If she needs help, then take her to a liscensed medical doctor that deals with her exact issues. Don't play a doctor and try to go all "romantic comedy" on her. If she doesnt want to go (she wont) then you cant make her, and you need to cut all contact with her anyway.

Your getting angry and defensive shows alot you know. I wasnt calling you a 8itch or a punk, I was, as we all were.. trieng to clear the fog surrounding your head. Like I said, you are better than this behavior. And you do care about if she went on the date, because you said you'd still post on it! :eek:

Well if your going to get angry about this, then I will leave you alone.

-Rabid

Your right I'm just in the 1st stage of truely de-attaching myself from her. My emotion and disappoint in what I thought I had and what I realize I have is coming out on the table.

I do use the DJ lingo, but I'm just pointing out that this really doesn't have much to do with "the game" and all that. Its much bigger than that and you guys all realize that.

And Open Mind has better things to do with his time too, its just that he really saw what I was going through because he's been there. I doubt many of you guys have dealt with a girl like this.

Anyways I honestly don't care if she went on that date or not as far as it being the deciding factor on whether I'd talk to her or not. I said I'd post about it because I'm sure most of you following this soap opera would want to know. In that sense I am curious to know as well, just to know, not for any reason but that.

I apologize for coming off a little harsh, didn't intend to but it sounded like you were attacking me a bit in the beginning of your post. My bad.



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I guess it did seem a little harsh, but I was only trieng to keep you focused.. oh well, no hard feelings.

I have dealt with these types of women, I have (uugh) almost 15 years of dating/marriage experience under my belt, and I've seen it all, or at least it feels that way.

In fact I've seen much worse.. from cleptomaniacs, to drug addled flakes. And I decided it would be much better to let destiny handle their problems, and to stay out of the situation. I did'nt help create their problems, and there was no real use in trieng to solve them either, so Next-> it was.

Think of my post as "tough love", I would expect the same from anyone here. I may be alpha, but even alpha's have our down times.

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Originally posted by RabidDog
I guess it did seem a little harsh, but I was only trieng to keep you focused.. oh well, no hard feelings.

I have dealt with these types of women, I have (uugh) almost 15 years of dating/marriage experience under my belt, and I've seen it all, or at least it feels that way.

In fact I've seen much worse.. from cleptomaniacs, to drug addled flakes. And I decided it would be much better to let destiny handle their problems, and to stay out of the situation. I did'nt help create their problems, and there was no real use in trieng to solve them either, so Next-> it was.

Think of my post as "tough love", I would expect the same from anyone here. I may be alpha, but even alpha's have our down times.

;)

Yeah bro your absolutely right. I haven't reallly expierenced anything like this to this extent before. My last serious girl was on medication for depression at one point and I seriously think she was a little bi-polar. She'd tell me about how she had bouts of rage when she'd get so mad over certain things and start breaking dishes and screaming.

I guess I have a knack for really attracting the real winners!!! :D It just suxs because there's no way you could see something like this coming when all is good in the beginning.

Guess I've got to be wiser. When a girl tells me something that brings up a red flag I should question its signifigance a little bit more.



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