How to successfully cheat on my girlfriend:

[daygameguy]

who are you going to cheat with?

 

[Luke Skywalker]

who are you going to cheat with?

Please see post # 29 and review the links on enotalone, as they will contain the discussion involved the type of cheating involved as well as the contemplated subject of cheating.

What is wierd about this is I've asked a girl out to a movie who said yes, but instead of following up with it, it's like I'm having Parliamentary (House of Representative) style debates and holding everything up here. My girlfriend will not be cool with that and so far is still acting crazily in love with me.

But, please click on the links of enotalone on post # 29 if you want the full run-down, review the debates on that site, what I wrote, how people have replied to it, and see if you agree with their particular slant, or what your scope is regarding that discussion.

FURTHER, it's not a specific matter of who I want to cheat or interact with, but more of a question of what the boundaries are -- or what valid boundaries are there for me.

 

[kingy]

Hey man,

Can i ask how old you are? and what you reasons/circumstances are for being a virgin.

Kingy

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Hey man,

Can i ask how old you are? and what you reasons/circumstances are for being a virgin.

Kingy

You can review my threads that I have written before. Maybe Alle_Gory or some punk will volunteer an answer because everyone on here, by now, knows who I am and how I have consistently represented myself from day one. I don't think the details are relevant, other than the concept of being too inexperienced and wanting to see other girls while I'm in a relationship.

What the heck, I'm 33 y/o and I'm a virgin due to religious reasons against pre-maritial sex. Since I have never been married before, I have never lost my virginity.

What is important is coming to some sort of clairity or closure in my mind with this issue. Either I can see and date other girls or pursue any policy I want, and keep certain things simply quiet with my girl and just manage it, or I have to either not pursue any other girls, or have a talk with this one. Either I'm making a cult out of this girl, or this is how exclusive relationships are normally supposed to work , or I really don't know what I'm doing and should just act like I would normally do anyway even if there wasn't a "relationship" as long as I manage the girl.

 

[kingy]

ok mate,

its a tough situation to be in waiting for marrige.

shagging around although fun has its drawbacks too with std's and hurting feelings.

your best bet is to hangout and mix with girls who will have similar beliefs, either church or find groups online, facebook, meetup.com something like that.

your question is confusing mate, either u really like this girl and want a relationship and marrige. or you dont and keep looking.

if i was you i would be chomping on the bit to get married, probably getting married at 18. so if she isnt marrige material then keep looking and qualify these girls hard so they know what you expect.

hope that helps

 

[Luke Skywalker]

your question is confusing mate, either u really like this girl and want a relationship and marrige. or you dont and keep looking.

It is not that simple of a solution in this case.

I'm hungry for her (as a general hunger for any woman) and would be barely satisfied by her in relationship and in marriage, (i.e as compared to masturbating and looking at pornography in the fall and winter seasons and remaining single) but I would still be eying other girls and if the opportunity presented itself, by myself or by them, would want to date other girls. This particular issue has raised it's head on this thread and on other threads that I've brought up on enotalone from this thread. Can you have a relationship or marriage where you are barely satisfied, or just love a woman's love for you, and the way she expresses herself with that "love", more than the woman herself?

As i wrote on another board -- I'm like her attention towards me and would miss it if it were gone -- but whether or not I actually love this girl -- has been refuted on this thread.

if i was you i would be chomping on the bit to get married, probably getting married at 18. so if she isnt marrige material then keep looking and qualify these girls hard so they know what you expect.

I'm 33 years old, not under 18 y/o.

 

[kingy]

then u should be having sex. the problem is we have been designed / evolved whatever your beliefs to have sex with many partners to continue our jeans on.

remember 95% of girls are bi-sexual mate, so if u really like her u know what u can easily introduce meeting other women for her benefits after u are married. My gf is now bi-sexual and we are so much more open and loving and now go out together and pu other women for threesomes and foursomes, its not as advanced or far away as u might think. just need to know how

that is only if u really like her but are worried u might cheat, remember marriges and relationships take work.

otherwise u will just go round in circles because i dont see your current path leading to a definitive goal.

hope that helps

 

[Luke Skywalker]

then u should be having sex. the problem is we have been designed / evolved whatever your beliefs to have sex with many partners to continue our jeans on.

I take my religious values seriously when you are dealing with human to human sexual behaviour. While I'm living under my parent's roof, I don't see that as changing.

remember 95% of girls are bi-sexual mate, so if u really like her u know what u can easily introduce meeting other women for her benefits after u are married.

What about before?

My gf is now bi-sexual and we are so much more open and loving and now go out together and pu other women for threesomes and foursomes, its not as advanced or far away as u might think. just need to know how

So, if I'm dating another girl, I should see that as someone I'd potentially want to introduce to my girlfriend rather than cheating on her, so I'm getting to know her, and doing things for my girlfriend's benefit since she may be bi but doesn't know it yet? That's a unique perspective.

that is only if u really like her but are worried u might cheat, remember marriges and relationships take work.

Alright, I like this solution. So when I'm thinking of cheating, I'm really thinking of a third partner to spice up the relationship or marriage. This sounds interesting. Tell me more.

A science study actually backs this up:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030613075252.htm

Well, maybe my girlfriend will enjoy looking at porn too?

 

[Alle_Gory]

I take my religious values seriously when you are dealing with human to human sexual behaviour. While I'm living under my parent's roof, I don't see that as changing.

If you did, then v (see below)

Alright, I like this solution. So when I'm thinking of cheating, I'm really thinking of a third partner to spice up the relationship or marriage. This sounds interesting. Tell me more.

Sodom and Gomorrah. Read it again.

 

[Captain]

I take my religious values seriously when you are dealing with human to human sexual behaviour. While I'm living under my parent's roof, I don't see that as changing.

Sex is biological, created throughout evolution, religion is a human creation. Biologically, men are not supposed to get married, or be monogamous.

This is a proven fact.

 

[CaptainJ]

What the heck, I'm 33 y/o and I'm a virgin due to religious reasons against pre-maritial sex. Since I have never been married before, I have never lost my virginity.

You are such a hypocrite, you claim the reason you have never lost your virginity before is because you want to wait until marriage. Yet you want to carry around a box of condoms just in case you get the chance to have sex.

The reason why you have never lost your virginity is because you are too incapable of getting a woman to bed you.

The fvck a fleshlight, fantasise about women you meet, watch some fvcked up porn. What's the difference in this than fvcking a woman. If your religion prevents you having sex before marriage, why do you enrol yourself in similar, if not dirtier practices such as the ones I have mentioned. You are hiding behind this excuse of waiting until marriage to have sex, just to protect yourself from realising you are a failure in life and that no quality woman would be willing to have you.

Oh and there's no such thing as emotional cheating. This is just bullsh1t. The only cheating that exists is sticking your d1ck in another woman's vagina.

 

[Mr_rogers]

Luke, you're the biggest fuckup I've ever seen. Get help.

 

[The Gamer]

Wow.......

I've read some of your past posts and...wow...

Dude. You need...help. Seriously please go see a therapist. It's ok man. First step is admitting you have problems.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

You are such a hypocrite, you claim the reason you have never lost your virginity before is because you want to wait until marriage. Yet you want to carry around a box of condoms just in case you get the chance to have sex.

I am not buying any condoms, as I've stated earlier on another post.

The reason why you have never lost your virginity is because you are too incapable of getting a woman to bed you.

Well, that's rather narrow thinking and shows that you have not read my other threads on here. The dialogue about this particular thread is what liberties do I have in a relationship without crossing the line. This is not a pity-party that I can not get laid. I already have a girlfriend that wants to have sex with me right now, I told her I want to wait until marriage.

The fvck a fleshlight, fantasise about women you meet, watch some fvcked up porn. What's the difference in this than fvcking a woman.

I do not use a fleshlight right now, or do any of that stuff. First of all, you have to deal with FACT, in particular FACTS that is currently in progress, not was done in the past or that I'm no longer currently doing otday.

There is plenty of difference between that and a woman -- because you are not actually WITH a woman -- and you are honouring the Bible code that says when you have sex that two become one. If you are just one with yourself, there is no two in the eqauation and you can not defile yourself with another person. Fundamentally it can not be compared.

If your religion prevents you having sex before marriage, why do you enrol yourself in similar, if not dirtier practices such as the ones I have mentioned. You are hiding behind this excuse of waiting until marriage to have sex, just to protect yourself from realising you are a failure in life and that no quality woman would be willing to have you.

Well, I don't think you understand a few things and you should review the threads on here to cure you of your narrow minded thinking. Because if you do that, then you'll review threads such as a homeless man scoring women left right and centre. Or, you may review threads of successful indepenet guys losing their women to losers or drug dealers. I know of a dentist who had it all together, but his wife cheated on him and left him for a drug dealer.

For the record, I may not have the best game in town, but I don't advertise my dirty laundry out there to any women I meet. If they even know about my living situation, they really do not care anyway and still stick. It's all about chemistry and how you can make them feel. Right now I have a girlfriend who is a teacher who knows about the situation but is willing to send money to support me, if I needed it. Whatever dude.

And, who says there is no choice in me being a virgin? That my friend would be total BS. I've seen other people on here that are just ruled by the pvssy that just makes glad that I'm totally independent from that drug. People who are thinking, or who are using escorts because they are having a difficult time getting laid. People who never had a normal relationship, but lost their virginity to a loose cannon just to prove what? This board, on record has a population that is high on 'virgins', and if people are not a virgin, then you wonder how they lost it because some of those stories will make them seem like 'virgins' anyway -- they just lowered their moral standards low enough to go to the gutter. So, your statements are an insult to 1/3 of the members of this board, and to other people who are having a difficult time and resorted to something risky or low to have sex. By comparison, you want to talk about a fleshlight I may have used before? That's a drop in the bucket in comparison.

Personally, I think you should be banned from this board for expressing those narrow minded views and should review all the threads on here so you can gain some perspective.

Oh and there's no such thing as emotional cheating. This is just bullsh1t. The only cheating that exists is sticking your d1ck in another woman's vagina.

It's too bad you don't know how to post in a way that is not berating because I can't accept any of your advice as much as I would like to believe that there is no holds barred on emotional infidelity as it is bullsh1t. I think you don't know me, or what I'm even talking about on here.

In a sence cheating is ANY violation of the relationship contract. If your girlfriend states her opinion and doesn't like you engaging on any specific behaviour that challenges the boundaries of that relationship, then it is cheating.

You want to call it bullsh1t, then prove your view-point rather than talk out of your a$$.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Anybody on here would like to challenge the merits of 'emotional cheating'? Is emotional 'cheating' real or is it a feminist ideology? Come on. Let's have an intelligent discussion here. I want to know what are the boundaries of a relationship.

 

[Darth]

Is emotional 'cheating' real or is it a feminist ideology? Come on. Let's have an intelligent discussion here.

The time for that is gone. I've avoided responding to these types of posts, but I have to say something here....

What the heck are you talking about? Using a fleshlight, jacking off to porn, making up weird fantasies about women you meet, storing condoms in the car? Planning to cheat on your girlfriend? Plotting "emotional infidelity"? Getting a third partner to "spice up the relationship or marriage"? And then saying you're a Christian?

I'm a Christian so I can say with some certainty that you are not a practicing Christian based on that behavior. You may call yourself one, but you aren't. Otherwise you would know Jesus said: "I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28 NKJV).

Also, you sound completely crazy, and that's not based just on this thread.

We're telling you for your own good: get help.

 

[I'm in the Mood]

Anybody on here would like to challenge the merits of 'emotional cheating'? Is emotional 'cheating' real or is it a feminist ideology? Come on. Let's have an intelligent discussion here. I want to know what are the boundaries of a relationship.

If you have the need for boundaries, you should dump her.
If you even consider cheating, you should dump her.
If you think you "need" her for what she gives you and that's holding you back from dumping her, you are a dependant little pvssy.

If so, I've never heard of anybody your age with such an immature mindset. Think of your kids when you eventually have them...If you have a boy, his daddy won't be able to teach him how to be a man. How fvcked up will that be?

Man pull your mind back outta wherever the hell you stuck it...Damn.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

The time for that is gone. I've avoided responding to these types of posts, but I have to say something here....

Of course, you should have just read my reply to CaptainJ on the post just above. I can't repeat things I've already said as a broken record.

What the heck are you talking about? Using a fleshlight, jacking off to porn, making up weird fantasies about women you meet, storing condoms in the car? Planning to cheat on your girlfriend? Plotting "emotional infidelity"? Getting a third partner to "spice up the relationship or marriage"? And then saying you're a Christian?

Like I've said, I've already addressed the issues on an above post. If you would like to reply to what I have said to CaptainJ than than there can be some clarity.

First of all, there is no fleshlight that I'm currently using, there is no jacking off to porn, there is no wierd fantasies about women I meet. If you want to talk about something a few months back, then whatever, I've repented of that and stopped using it. I think it is not Christian like behaviour to bring up people's sins that have already been forgiven.

If you are insinuating that I am using a fleshlight or looking at porn, then I'm saying I don't do that. In fact, if I were to look at porn, even a semi-nude girl, or anything, I'll cancel my internet service tommorow. I have very strict standard against that.

There is no plotting to cheat on my girlfriend -- I'm inquiring into the boundaries of a relationship and what the proper boundaries are that would be "healthy" for me in order to further work on my game or be more comfortable around women in general. Maybe I called that "cheating". If I did, then this thread simply has a semantical error about it since lots of people don't define this type of stuff as cheating.

I'm a Christian so I can say with some certainty that you are not a practicing Christian based on that behavior. You may call yourself one, but you aren't. Otherwise you would know Jesus said: "I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28 NKJV).

Right, and since I've just said that I don't do that -- unless you are claiming to be God, and are claiming that in fact I am doing that then what are your grounds? Are you saying women should dress up like Muslims who cover their whole bodies and wear sun-glasses? Thought so.

Also, you sound completely crazy, and that's not based just on this thread.

We're telling you for your own good: get help.

This is not said in a way that is respectful, so advice like that is generally not listened to, as it is trollling my thread.

Are you a Christian? You sound like a judgmental self-righteous person that likes bringing up sin and throwing it at people, or recommending that I see a sinner therapist --- I can make the same arguement about you.

Yup, intelligent discussion not possible.

 

[MisterMcGee]

Luke needs to be banned for his own sake, yo ucan't even talk to him like a human. It's like an automated BS robot reply machine. He simply ayss things to justify his current position and creates his own rules so he can stay there and feel decent about himself.

 

[Darth]

Oh, really Luke? Because I could have sworn you posted something like this 2 days ago, with the title "How to successfully cheat on my girlfriend."

She's one of them low-self esteem clingy needy girls that will likely stick with me, even if she found out that I cheated, so it's just a matter of managing the situation so she doesn't know about it.

I have developed the following rules to ensure such cheating is successful and nobody is hurt:

1) If you have fun with someone else, make sure that you do not actually love them, or pursue any other love interest other than my girlfriend. If a girl gets too close with me then I can admit that I have a girlfriend for her to back off.

2) Anything revolving around work is fine.

3) Buy a box of condoms and store them in the glove compartment of my car, just in case, I actually cheat on her. But put them away in the basement if she comes into town.

4) No cheating is obviously allowed while my girlfriend is in the city, be totally loyal with her and honour the resolution only while she is in the city.

5) Do give my girlfriend whatever time she needs on the phone/email to be reassured that I love her and nothing is going on.

6) Do not lose my virginity to another woman other than my girlfriend. That type of cheating is unacceptable. (but keep rule 3 there, just in case)

Do you deny that?

Read what you wrote there, and tell me if that sounds like something a Christian would say.

And we're not trolling, we're serious. Get help. See a psychologist or a doctor, or something.