How to successfully cheat on my girlfriend:

[Kal0051]

can we please ban Luke now? He's obviously here just for the attention, so why are we giving it to him?

 

[Captain]

Right, but who on here can say that their girlfriend loves them unconditionally

It's never unconditional.

and is going to remain faithful with them and they don't have to put up some sort of fake game in order to get them to like them or stick with you -- but you are loved for who you are?

You aren't supposed to be faking it, you improve yourself to the point that you are attractive to women. You are a total chump, you don't even want to improve yourself. What you described here is a woman settling for you. There's no sexual attraction, and she'll be off screwing other men.

I do not think it's fair or appropriate to start pursuing other girls who just look more attractive than my girlfriend and contrary to sence since

Actually, physical attraction is extremely important. Don't kid yourself.

as most girls out there aren't really good quality or are as compatable in so many levels as this girl is here.

You are just kidding yourself here. It's not "good quality", what you're doing is setting for mediocrity.

She's likes the fact I'm quiet and isn't complaining like other women that I'm not domineering enough

She wants you to provide for her, she isn't attracted to you. She has settled for a guy that does not have standards, if you did have standards, you would not be with her.

Most men are chumps, most men get married, and most married men are settled and compromised and do not have the life they want.

Luke Skywalker, why are you posting on these forums? We give you advice, which you never follow, and then you post on and on about the same things. Why are you here? Is it the attention?

 

[#41]

can we please ban Luke now? He's obviously here just for the attention, so why are we giving it to him?

He's a ****bag -- if I were modding this site, he'd have been bounced ages ago. He adds nothing to conversations, and it's clear the only thing he does in his posts is lie to stir crap up.

 

[djinhell]

TAKE A HIKE SKYWALKER!! :trouble:

 

[DonGorgon]

"success" and "cheat" dont go together! Once you cheat the relationship is functionally over..

 

[amoka]

The funny thing is that he has been here for a while and has over two-thousand posts....

 

[Kevin Feng]

Okay, that's just plain wrong, not the fact that you're cheating on her, but the fact that you're lying to her, that's just awful.

There is nothing wrong with having more than 1 girlfriend, SO AS LONG as she is aware of it.

You really shouldn't do this, it just isn't worth it, you're essentially screwing her over which will make it harder for other guys to game her in the future and more importantly, you're destroying her as a person, don't do it.

What goes around comes around, either tell her or let her go, be fair to her.

-Kevin

 

[scribblec]

luke u should invite elstud to live with you and your mother, maybe you might lose your virginity that way (im sure elstud wont mind)

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Luke i seriously don't get u, u contradict urself. I thought u said u wanted sex after marriage, but then why would u have box of condoms in ur car just in case u do cheat on her.

To set the factual record straight, I do not currently have any condoms in my car. In fact, I've never purchased or held a condom in my life.

What I wrote on the first post is merely ideas or a 'draft' statement that means nothing and testing ideas on here to see how they are resonating.

You seemed to me like a guy who would not cheat and be loyal, also not have sex before marriage. Now u have something avaliable for u ur whole mind set has changed, which tells me before u only said all that stuff just has an excuse because u cudn't get one. And now that u do have one the wolf has come out of it's sheeps clothing.

I don't see how my mind-set would change since I never had sex with my girlfriend or am making statements that I do not believe in having sex before marriage. If anything, if I had sex with my girlfriend, then that would show inconsitentant morality because I will be violating my pre-maritial sex belief now that I have a girl that would have sex with me, or will likely have sex with me sometime this summer. Now, if I was how you described above, then I either would have already had sex with her, or would not have mentioned 'marriage' as a prerequisite to going out on trips around the world (she's paying for it), moving in with her or having sex with her. Therefore, I've maintained this standard in the face of having a girlfriend.

I think the draft post may reflect 'fantasy' more than anything else, so I'm not sure if that would reflect an inconsistent morality on desperation like you are saying here -- otherwise, it stands to reason I would have sex with my gf first since I'm desperate, then after liking it (assuming I'm not asexual) would go on to cheat with other girls. That scenerio is not reflected above.

U on the other hand have actually made a thread on how to cheat, this is no accident, which totally opposes ur principles.

One of my principles is there is no accidents. Again, this thread is a draft that is exploiring ideas and concepts of cheating, but there is no actual concrete plan to "cheat".

In fact, there is no solid defination of "cheating" to even base it on. Let's get one thing straight, I'm not talking about sex or exchange of bodily fluids here.

"Cheating" is emotional cheating? Taking another girl out to the movie? Having lunch with a female client or co-worker? Most people readng this thread will assume this is sexual physical cheating -- when in fact, I may just have it in mind to take a girl out to the movies, ask a married woman out to a listing presenation with me (business only), or something that's seemingly innocious.

In fact, I want to make an issue about the above right here to show I'm not d1cking around here -- I've already made three threads on enotalone which specifically makes arguement to what cheating means -- i.e. EMOTIONAL cheating. So for those threads seem to have a conclusion that EMOTIONAL CHEATING is real and potentially fatal to a relationship, so it's not just confised to sexual cheating. The question is -- where do you draw the line?

I'm the type of guy that's like an 'emotional sponge' and feeds and relishes off of female contact -- so in some subconcious or psychological sence, I just can get off 'emotionally' and 'feel' good -- almost like an obsession with female contact sometimes...so it seems since I'm taking in 'female energy' and absorbing it allot in some interactions that it seems sort of morally grey (i.e. cheating).

Here are the threads as follows:

Business relationship (listing presentation) with a married woman from the office -- is this cheating without my girlfriend's knowledge or permission:
http://www.enotalone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284295

Is having a sexy personal gym trainer cheating with my girlfriend (which I currently have). I told my girlfriend that I have a female trainer who is helping me out with the weights:
http://www.enotalone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285840

The specific co-worker at the office that I asked out to a movie two weeks ago (didn't follow up since I'm internally debated this like crazy):
http://www.enotalone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285476

This shows I'm serious about the concept of emotional cheating, and if you look at the replies to the enotalone threads it would seem that people there ARE taking that concept VERY seriously and would break-up if they found their SO EMOTIONALLY cheated on them.

 

[Caveman]

So the condoms will be in your car in case you intend to emotionally cheat on your girl by blowing those condoms up and make condom animals out of them??

 

[CaptainJ]

can we please ban Luke now? He's obviously here just for the attention, so why are we giving it to him?

This

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

3) Buy a box of condoms and store them in the glove compartment of my car,

Hah This really made my day!

 

[horaholic]

Is it even possible to cheat on an 'online' girlfriend?:crackup:

This thread is absolutely ridiculous. You dont even know what cheating means!

 

[amoka]

Luke's fantacies

"Do not lose my virginity to another woman other than my girlfriend. That type of cheating is unacceptable."

 

[MaradonaOfSeduction]

I sense a disturbance in the Force

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Face it man, you're "dating" her, but you don't love her.

This is a sentiment that has been echoed around from my folks and on enotalone. There is a certain lack of empathy. I don't really understand any "love" stuff -- what I do understand is oneitis or crushes or infatuation, which are usually one-sided, or inappropriate (i.e. the girl is already taken) which I definately do not have with her.

Tell her that you are very attracted to her, but you aren't interested in partnering up with a woman right now. Tell her what you want, which is to talk to her and **** her and all that. She probably wants the same thing, unless she's looking for a guy to take complete care of her, in which case you are gonna smash her hopes and dreams.

I can not take care of her. It is the other way around. She'll become a pseudo-mother with me that I can have sex with at the end of the day. She has a job and is earning money. I do not have a reliable income source, and am 33 y/o and living at home, yadda, yadda, yadda. I can not take care of any girl, if I can not even take care of myself.

However, she on the other hand is 35 y/o or approaching that age that she should be starting a family or is crossing that line past child-bearing age, and she's already saying that she sees a 'husband' with me, yadda yadda yadda. Given the fact she went into a mental hospital earlier this year and had to be treated there for about a month makes me feel cautious about saying anything to her that could be interpreted as rejection or disinterest with her.

So in a sence, you are both right and wrong in that assessment, and I don't know what I can really say to her.

Since the type of cheating that is being contemplated sounds like childsplay and perhaps the feedback on enotalone is making a mountain out of a molehill and there is not even a genuine issue on this thread to even have a discussion with her.

I already told her we have to get married before having sex.

Plus you say you're gonna carry condoms anyway just in case you get the chance to break rule 6. Haha

Just in case something were to happen -- but we are just really talking about emotional infidelity here, if that term is even valid in this forum-universe.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

In responce to Captain's post, I do not feel either of us are settling for each other. It seems that both of our life-situations, faith-beliefs, are just sort of compatable and it's just two desperate people coming together for a relationship. I do not feel she has any options, any more than I feel that I have that many options (passively that is, that will fall into my lap without having to work for it and who will unconditionally accept my life-situation, that is compatable with my faith as well). If anything I'm going along with whatever she is saying or thinking about this "relationship", if you want to call that form of 'compliance' settling, then go right ahead.

 

[I'm in the Mood]

You have a pretty twisted mind. Get help.

 

[Huffman]

it's just two desperate people

Jackpot!

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Is it even possible to cheat on an 'online' girlfriend?:crackup:

This thread is absolutely ridiculous. You dont even know what cheating means!

She send me money to buy plane tickets for her to come here during the summer.

You are right, I'm not sure of what cheating means. I've referenced a few threads on enotalone to discuss 'emotional cheating'. Again, if people are serious about making a contribution to this thread they should review the links I've placed above on enotalone, look at that discussion, and put their opinion on here about what they think of the feedback of enotalone. (Post # 29 on this thread)

I know some people on here feel that board is messed up -- but in a sence, they still come to the same conclusions, more or less, as this board, which is to either break-up or communicate having a non-exclusive relationship. Enotalone has really taken this sort of dicussion seriously even though I'm portrayed as the 'bad guy' for stringing this girl along when I don't really love her. On here, I'm too retarded or inexperienced to be a bad buy and are as bad as a child that doesn't know what he is doing, and therefore nothing about this can be taken too seriously, or seriously at all, if there is no sex involved, is that right?. So far, I've only gotten a few serious replies to this thread. Maybe that's also part of the problem, maybe I'm just taking life, or some things here a bit too seriously than any situation warrants.

I've already said that she could go crazy if she feels I'm drawing back from her.

The enotalone feedback is that I should not be shopping around while stringing along this girl. Taking another girl out to see a movie, is to her, and to the enotalone board, cheating.