How to Navigate Dating When Rich Or Wealthy?

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Poor mouth. While I disagree about actively trying to hide who you are (if I'm going to a Charlie Trotter's type place.....I'd be going there anyway.....don't go to Red Lobster just to pretend you aren't a Charlie Trotter's guy for example).....I also think it is worthwhile to help someone understand the obligations and responsibilities of having something includes.

Last week I dropped 3K on repairs to a rental unit and 5K on oral surgery for my daughter. Many people don't make that in 2 months. I talk about having to put those things on cards (and downplay that I pay them off quickly.)

I do not share financial details with anyone who is not of similar level of wealth than I, and I'm somewhat opaque even then. People can see that I drive a very expensive car (bought used), wear expensive clothes & jewelry, bought mostly used, and I pay attention to someone's ease being around affluent people. I don't gush about someone's plane, or yacht, or racehorse or expensive home. I get uncomfortable when someone is unaccustomed to the trappings of wealth, because that demonstrates a lack of discretion and a sense of "OMG he has XYZ......"

So you'll have to cypher who doesn't have the elegance to navigate that world (or lacks the discretion to ask privately about things she doesn't know)......

You also would do well to avoid women who feel entitled to what you have worked so hard for (if they never make an effort to pick up the check or if they expect shopping trips or you to cover her rent/gas/bills etc.)

And you'd also do best to avoid women who think they deserve your resources in exchange for her looks. That is more subjective. So use your judgement.

The way to figure out these things is to listen, pay attention and downplay your wealth while still living your life as you were already doing. Poor mouth around those whose motivations you do not know.

I out earn my man by a multiple. He had very little idea and I still do not discuss specifics with him. Our finances are individual, not joint because we had lives prior to one another.

Trusts are your friend. Protect your wealth in advance from others who would take advantage.
Next time you do advice, remove yourself from the advice. The first paragraphs you were describing yourself and what you have. Nobody cares, say the advice in the third person for the point to come across.
 

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Last week I dropped 3K on repairs to a rental unit and 5K on oral surgery for my daughter. Many people don't make that in 2 months. I talk about having to put those things on cards (and downplay that I pay them off quickly.)
8K is nothing. The other day, I had to fix 40K worth of damage to genuine Brazilian Walnut hardwood flooring caused by an overflowing toilet. I didn't even have to write a check. I just gave the contractor a couple of front row seat tickets for the Taylor Swift Eras tour. No big deal, I've got a dozen more sitting in the safe for occasions like this.

I out earn my man by a multiple.
I out-earn my woman, her parents and their entire village in Venezuela, combined!
 
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Next time you do advice, remove yourself from the advice. The first paragraphs you were describing yourself and what you have. Nobody cares, say the advice in the third person for the point to come across.
Not to be the bearer of bad news, but much of the advice in the Manosphere is often based on personal anecdotes or exaggerated experiences rather than science. For example, when someone claims to have a 'harem' of women at their disposal, it may not accurately reflect reality. These stories could either be fabricated or rare occurrences, not backed by sustainable or scientifically supported behavior. The truth is, most people here are not what they claim to be, and the reality is far more complex than the perfect image they try to project. Moreover, much of the advice given is not congruent or practical—it’s often extremely vague and lacks a clear 'SOP' to actually reach the end goal.

It’s a pet peeve of mine. That’s why I didn’t offer any advice on this topic, nor have I done the necessary research to provide proper, science-backed guidance.
 

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But this thread is not about you...
A thread titled "How to Navigate Dating When Rich Or Wealthy" is not about rich forum members? The original post even spelled it out in bold in the first two lines:

Disclaimer: I'm curious to hear from successful members about this. No shade to members that don't fit the bill but this is for people who actually experience this and not 2nd or 3rd hand accounts(keyboard jockeying)
 

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A thread titled "How to Navigate Dating When Rich Or Wealthy" is not about rich forum members? The original post even spelled it out in bold in the first two lines:
How can we prove that the people who posted in this thread giving advice are rich? (Not to single him out but as an example, by giving advice in this thread, Mr. Amsterdam is claiming that he is “rich”).
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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A thread titled "How to Navigate Dating When Rich Or Wealthy" is not about rich forum members? The original post even spelled it out in bold in the first two lines:
I don't believe that Amsterdam Assassin has ever claimed to be rich. Quite the opposite, in fact. Sometimes it helps to read more than just the original post.
 

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Am I claiming to be rich?
I think I wrote:

There are levels of 'rich'. I'm at a comfortable level, where I don't have to worry about financial matters for the rest of my life, but that is partially because I live well within my means.

In my previous life I was a personal risk management consultant to people targeted because of their wealth. That is not a comfortable level to be in. And I've seen more than enough of the dark hedonistic side of wealth and success to know when I had enough and retired young enough to enjoy a quiet life.

Being rich doesn't mean anything if you cannot live the way you want to live.
Based on the title and disclaimer, I assume that everyone offering advice in this thread is "rich," which, in simple terms, means "having goods, property, and money in abundance." I chose your name because you can handle the heat, and everyone knows you.

However, the context you provided about interacting with wealthy individuals and their finances makes you knowledgeable enough to give advice, even though that’s through 2nd and 3rd hand accounts… I suppose :/
 

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Not to be the bearer of bad news, but much of the advice in the Manosphere is often based on personal anecdotes or exaggerated experiences rather than science. For example, when someone claims to have a 'harem' of women at their disposal, it may not accurately reflect reality. These stories could either be fabricated or rare occurrences, not backed by sustainable or scientifically supported behavior. The truth is, most people here are not what they claim to be, and the reality is far more complex than the perfect image they try to project. Moreover, much of the advice given is not congruent or practical—it’s often extremely vague and lacks a clear 'SOP' to actually reach the end goal.

It’s a pet peeve of mine. That’s why I didn’t offer any advice on this topic, nor have I done the necessary research to provide proper, science-backed guidance.
Dude. Seduction is not science, it's feelings. Its emotions not logic.

People should share advice not referring to them, because its like a cars salesman "Hey look I am this or that, look how awesome I look/am" and nobody likes that $hit.
 

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Dude. Seduction is not science, it's feelings. Its emotions not logic.

People should share advice not referring to them, because its like a cars salesman "Hey look I am this or that, look how awesome I look/am" and nobody likes that $hit.
You should look into social psychology. It shows the dynamics of attraction and demonstrates that seduction is not only about emotions but also rooted in psychological principles. While it may offer a guide for manipulation, understanding these principles can also help navigate human connections more effectively.
 

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How can we prove that the people who posted in this thread giving advice are rich? (Not to single him out but as an example, by giving advice in this thread, Mr. Amsterdam is claiming that he is “rich”).
There might be varying definitions, too. In the U.S., the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regulates investments. Investors in hedge funds, for example, need to meet the criteria for a "qualified investor", which is being a millionaire or making $200k/year.

In popular opinion, according to this article, you need to be a multi-millionaire to be considered rich:
And here's where the generations stand on what they think it takes to be considered rich, according to the previously mentioned 2024 Modern Wealth Survey by Schwab:

Baby Boomers: $2.8 million
Gen X: $2.7 million
Millennials: $2.2 million
Gen Z: $1.2 million
 

Peace and Quiet

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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@Clockwerk50 and others:

You can tell if someone is telling the truth or spinning a yarn based on consistency of content here. My content is consistent over thousands of posts and some number of years here. I am as I say. My avatar is me, and the photo is an unretouched proof in my 50s.

Downplay your wealth but you do not need to be eating at McDonalds if a good steakhouse is more your speed and you can afford it. Pay attention to the motivations of those around you. That's my advice in short on this topic. Don't be blinded by beauty. Keep your wits about you.

Like the Dutchman I have much less wealth than many I know, but I'm also considered authentic and good company by those same people.
 

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8K is nothing. The other day, I had to fix 40K worth of damage to genuine Brazilian Walnut hardwood flooring caused by an overflowing toilet. I didn't even have to write a check. I just gave the contractor a couple of front row seat tickets for the Taylor Swift Eras tour. No big deal, I've got a dozen more sitting in the safe for occasions like this.


I out-earn my woman, her parents and their entire village in Venezuela, combined!
My wife and I are just middle-class dirt people. We engage in some luxuries, like vacations and fancy restaurants on date nights. Sometimes after we hit up a Manhattan steakhouse, as I walk down the street, I’ll present my leftovers box to a hungry homeless bum, open it up, have him get a whiff of the delicious fatty calories, dangle a slice of succulent, butter-finished, greasy porterhouse steak, moan with pleasure as I eat it, laugh, say, “Sucks for you pal,” and then be on my way.
 

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I’m not wealthy but I have a wealthy relative.

if you’re just trying to spin plates find girls who will put out easy if you spend money on them, have fun but protect yourself and don’t trust them.

if you’re trying to find a wife, either pretend to be average and let her find out you’re wealthy once she’s already committed to you or find a woman on your level of wealth.
 
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