How to Maintain Women after Sex?

[nicksaiz65]

No woman wants to feel like a wh0re. You are making them feel like a wh0re

I’m assuming that not taking them out after the act is making them feel slvtty.

 

[nicksaiz65]

For sure. But it sounds like @nicksaiz65 can't even get em back for Round 2. OP, are they ghosting you after the hookup?

I can usually get them back a handful of times before they’re gone. Then they are off the face of this Earth haha

 

[nicksaiz65]

That's why...he is basically making it abundantly clear he only wants them for sex. Even if that is true, you have to make them believe it isn't.

Interesting. So in a way, you’d say I need to lead them on to a certain extent?

 

[nicksaiz65]

I don't chase women before sex and I don't chase them after sex. There is consistency in how I communicate with them before and after.

Rules of dating:
1. Only deal with high interest women
2. Don't chase. Show intent and let them invest.
3. Date to make yourself happy first and foremost. Learn to say "no".
4. Stay somewhat mysterious and be unpredictable. You want her wondering if you like her or not.

Nothing changes after sex. And if it does, a woman will either perceive the change of personality as 1. A man who used her for sex (if you just drop off the face of the earth) or 2. You ramp up your communication with her after sex and act like you've never had @ss before......cringy/beta attitude. She will RUN, not walk.....to get away from you.

Be chill/fun and laid back before sex, be chill/fun and laid back after sex. Keep it the same. She liked you well enough to fvck you, so why would you stop being that person afterwards?

DONT give in after sex but also don't ghost. Just remain friendly as before.

Keep it light and fun. Both before and after. That's how you keep them around (for a while) in a rotation. Or at least how I do it anyway. It works for me.

Occasionally you'll just get your hands on a horny woman that wants fvcked and nothing more. Fvck her and if she disappears, oh well. That's not the type of person you want in a rotation because she will NEVER be submissive to you.

Rotations = test driving to see if they are valuable enough for a relationship. Kicking the tires and checking under the hood. If something seems wrong with it, move on to something that has more value and better suits your needs.

Happy Hunting

Great advice.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I think there is some element of this going on.



All good comments.



Being good at sex is the #1 game tip. A guy won't need to game as frequently if he doesn't want to game as frequently. There are some "thrill of the hunt" type guys out there. Being good at sex will help with increasing retention options and longevity of the interaction. It could even develop into a relationship for a guy who wants that sort of thing.

If a guy is good at sex, it might be possible that he could encounter issues in game in getting to the point of sex at a time when he has 0 prospect. Perhaps he moved to a new city or had a breakup of a committed relationship. But once he gets to sex, he's in a good place.

I’d definitely agree with being good at sex being the #1 game tip. I had mentioned this earlier, but the issue with this is that the best way to get good at sex is to practice it really consistently(by retaining women after sex and having a rotation.) But then that brings us right back around to the title of the thread, and we’re in an endless loop lol.

 

[nicksaiz65]

As others have stated:

1) That's not the mindset you want to have regarding sex or relationships. It shouldn't occupy mental space. Never chase or try to convince ANYONE to be in your life.
2) Reality is that women say things they don't really mean all the time. This has been said multiple times, actions over words.


Modern Man Advice

Actions over words for sure. It’s easy to read the advice, but sometimes it’s difficult to visualize how it applies in different situations.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Interesting. So in a way, you’d say I need to lead them on to a certain extent?

You gotta "throw them a bone" every now and then OP.

 

[nicksaiz65]

You gotta "throw them a bone" every now and then OP.

I’m thinking, from my experience last night and the comments in this thread, that just hanging out with them more might do the trick lol. Non-sexual attention for sexual attention as AMS says.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I’m thinking, from my experience last night and the comments in this thread, that just hanging out with them more might do the trick lol. Non-sexual attention for sexual attention as AMS says.

There ya go. Nobody wants to feel like they are being used. This goes for any interaction with a person, not just women.

Have you ever had a friend that you'd only hear from them when they needed something from you? Borrow money, a ride somewhere, help moving, etc?

After a while you probably didn't want to keep hearing or seeing them because they simply took while giving you nothing back in return.

Same concept. You have to give her something of value outside the bedroom.

 

[nicksaiz65]

There ya go. Nobody wants to feel like they are being used. This goes for any interaction with a person, not just women.

Have you ever had a friend that you'd only hear from them when they needed something from you? Borrow money, a ride somewhere, help moving, etc?

After a while you probably didn't want to keep hearing or seeing them because they simply took while giving you nothing back in return.

Same concept. You have to give her something of value outside the bedroom.

That’s a great analogy. Cause having a “friend” like that sucks lol.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Same concept. You have to give her something of value outside the bedroom.

This frustrates me because as manfrombelow said:

To them, it's not a mutual activity that brings pleasure & joy to both parties, but more like a favour/privilege/even blessing that they bestow upon the men. As if, only men enjoys the sexual pleasure from sex and they don't. As if, by having sex with us, they're giving away their power like they're making a sacrifice of some sort. Crazy, I know.

 

[SW15]

I’d definitely agree with being good at sex being the #1 game tip. I had mentioned this earlier, but the issue with this is that the best way to get good at sex is to practice it really consistently(by retaining women after sex and having a rotation.) But then that brings us right back around to the title of the thread, and we’re in an endless loop lol.

Having sex does make a guy good at sex. It is possible to get somewhat good at sex with limited experience by reading some sex manual type books or online materials. Having sex will enhance that book knowledge.

If she is enjoying the sex, she will come back. She does have to feel like a bit of a person and not a piece of meat, which will also help the sex.

I can’t say I’m really making it clear at all… I don’t really know how to do that lol. I am solely looking for casual sex but idk if I should, or how I should convey that.

Actually, in hindsight, a lot of my successes have been same night lays. I’ll have to keep that in mind that many of them typically don’t go beyond one night.

It's not an easy dance to convey that something is casual but not boyfriend-girlfriend. Taking them out in public could be interpreted as either path. Taking them out in public does help them feel like less of a piece of meat, but then could confuse intention. Over time, you won't do the meeting the parents or hanging out with her female friends thing, which helps a woman identify a boyfriend from a casual sex partner.

Night game is better for same night lays than anything else. It's gotten more difficult in the past 15 years to get dates from night game due to shorter attention spans for women. Swipe apps can be used for both casual sex and one night stands, but are not so good in producing extended relationships. Non-bar approaching and social circle-ish type stuff is the best stuff for extended relationships.

Well, I have to say this definitely helped lol. I met up with a chick that I banged a while back today. Couldn’t get her to come over to the house for sh*t lately. Took her to the pool bar, drank a bit, then pulled her back home and banged the mess out of her again lol.

Solid move.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This frustrates me because as manfrombelow said:

Why? Would you like it if your friend only hung out with you when he needed to borrow money from you?

This is basic social interaction principles, not rocket science.

 

[2Rocky]

1) Make sex a multi -round deal. Have good logistics, enough time and energy where you can recover and deliver another orgasm while she is still buzzing from the previous one.
2) Make Sex part of a well rounded experience. Not mechanical or scripted. You still have to seduce her mind..
3) Make sex meetups less frequent, with more forethought and planning and more than just a few hours. My best "hookups" were women I would spend weekends with once a month. Don't make her your "Tuesday girl" Make her your "Second Weekend of the month" For some reason that feels less slutty to a woman.
4) Go out of town or have women come to you from out of town. Less chance of running into them while you are out "developing prospects"

 

[DonJuanjr]

Why? Would you like it if your friend only hung out with you when he needed to borrow money from you?

This is basic social interaction principles, not rocket science.

Being that I am not financially well off enough to get as much pleasure giving money to people as them receiving the money, it's not an appropriate analogy.

I understand the social dynamic. What can a guy act like a martyr for that he enjoys equally as a woman? I guess if a guy likes working on cars, then he could act like a martyr for doing it for a chick. Even though he likes doing it, he needs to get something else for it. She would have to be extra sluuty for him.