How to deal with insecure guys who try to AMOG or insult/over compensate

[B80]

If someone knocks me down and wails on me I'm pulling my pistol out.

haha some of you guys are nuts

 

[TheCharmingGuy]

I would never strike a I am not out to hurt anyone ffs and i hate fighting in general.

I don't believe in **** talking or arguing when a stranger disrespects me...i prefer to just strike them out of nowhere and get them either knocked out on the ground where i can pound them into submission or walk away.

So your go-to method for dealing with conflict is to immediately start a fight… but you “hate fighting”. First I’ve heard that one, but I’ll let the people reading this thread draw their own conclusions. Grow a pair.

 

[B80]

You better hope you never end up in prison. Which, with so many laws today, could very well happen. Zinc's attitude would keep him from being victimized in prison. Where it's purely male dominance hierarchy. Though I don't see a need for that to be his first reaction in public, I can understand why it would be a first response.

50/50 coin toss on chances of any of us ending up serving a stretch?

 

[B80]

Well, in the U.S. anyways.... There's what, over 4000 laws on the books. All it takes is having one beer, and some bike rider not paying attention and getting in the way of your vehicle then you hit and kill them. Get breathalyzed, and now doing time for vehicular manslaughter.

I get your point and would be lying if I said I've never thought about learning some kind of fighting skill, 1 of the reasons being if I somehow ended up prison lol.

Funny thing is though, by being quick to violence, the chances of you ending up serving a sentence goes up a fair bit. Prisons are mainly populated by men with short tempers, poor self control. I chap I know from the gym served a sentance after beating someone up at a petrol (gas) station. Somehow got into an argument, god knows true/full story.

Being able to handle yourself is a good skill to have though, in fact considering enrolling my daughter into some kind of martial arts/self defense class at a young age.

 

[zinc4]

So your go-to method for dealing with conflict is to immediately start a fight… but you “hate fighting”. First I’ve heard that one, but I’ll let the people reading this thread draw their own conclusions. Grow a pair.

Yes. Why is it so hard for you guys to accept a code of respect and conduct/reprocussions? I don't enjoy fighting but if someone goes out of their way to cross a line and i think there will be no legal involvement, damn right i will do something about it. Holy crap. This thread proves how weak western men have become. All the male karens out in full force.

And @biggoal i doubt you will walk up and antagonize anyone in the first place for no reason, so your pulling the pistol comment doesn't even make sense.

 

[biggoal]

Yes. Why is it so hard for you guys to accept a code of respect and conduct/reprocussions? I don't enjoy fighting but if someone goes out of their way to cross a line and i think there will be no legal involvement, damn right i will do something about it. Holy crap. This thread proves how weak western men have become. All the male karens out in full force.

And @biggoal i doubt you will walk up and antagonize anyone in the first place for no reason, so your pulling the pistol comment doesn't even make sense.

I don't go around like a stumbling drunk trying to cause trouble. I was saying if someone came up and knocked me over.

do that to a law enforcement officer. Knock them down and see what happens.

 

[zinc4]

I don't go around like a stumbling drunk trying to cause trouble. I was saying if someone came up and knocked me over.

do that to a law enforcement officer. Knock them down and see what happens.

Literally nothing you are saying is even relevant to the OP. Some serious lack of reading comprehension going in.

 

[TheCharmingGuy]

Yes. Why is it so hard for you guys to accept a code of respect and conduct/reprocussions? I don't enjoy fighting but if someone goes out of their way to cross a line and i think there will be no legal involvement, damn right i will do something about it. Holy crap. This thread proves how weak western men have become. All the male karens out in full force.

And @biggoal i doubt you will walk up and antagonize anyone in the first place for no reason, so your pulling the pistol comment doesn't even make sense.

I was pointing out that your opinion that fighting is the best way to solve a problem and your other statement that you “hate fighting” directly contradict each other. I am not making a pass on your opinion, in fact, I never addressed my own views on that matter.

Additionally, @biggoal’s pistol comment seemed pretty clear to me.

 

[darksprezzatura]

Fake validate the try hard AMOGs. Their fragile egos lap it up.

There's a good boy. Wow what a big d!ck you have. Proceed to use their stupidity against them. Take their money fwiw

 

[typical]

Zinc you're gonna get shanked or worse one day. Seriously man you need to sort out your anger issues and accept that not everyone has good social skills or will be respectful.
Also I don't think anything they said was disrespectful, they could of been just making light hearted banter because you're a fellow American.

Also if these guys are there just on holiday they haven't got anything to lose, you on the other hand have plenty to lose.
Also if they are talking loudly in Spanish in front of other locals and you feel they are AMOGing you it could be that YOU are seen as the outsider and they aren't. I wouldn't start anything up in central or South America, I've seen people killed over a parking spot in Columbia and Brazil.

 

[zinc4]

Zinc you're gonna get shanked or worse one day. Seriously man you need to sort out your anger issues and accept that not everyone has good social skills or will be respectful.
Also I don't think anything they said was disrespectful, they could of been just making light hearted banter because you're a fellow American.

Also if these guys are there just on holiday they haven't got anything to lose, you on the other hand have plenty to lose.
Also if they are talking loudly in Spanish in front of other locals and you feel they are AMOGing you it could be that YOU are seen as the outsider and they aren't. I wouldn't start anything up in central or South America, I've seen people killed over a parking spot in Columbia and Brazil.

Was pure AMOGing and an attempt at **** starting. He clearly wanted a reaction. I noticed his friend conveniently positioned behind me most of the time as well. I travel and have lived over seas a lot. A lot of foreign guys go over and try to take on this foreign god complex. Can spot those types from a mile.

Furthermore i just came from Colombia where i lived for 3 months. I have lived in many countries and travelled around a lot. I am not stupid enough to get into a physical altercation in any public place to where i would be at a disadvantage with the locals.

Save the safe space advice please. Have lived in Mexico, DR and Cambodia as well and witnessed a few murders in broad daylight. You aren't telling me anything new buddy. I am very cautious and alert of my surroundings at all times.

The worst physical altercation i ever got into overseas ironically was in Taipei, Taiwan when i was unknowingly banging a lower level Taiwanese mafia girlfriend and got bottled and jumped by a big group of them when entering a bar one night.

 

[zinc4]

Additionally, @biggoal’s pistol comment seemed pretty clear to me.

Biggoal needs to stick to online cougar obsessing and stocking cellphone shelves. The guy was is in my inbox with mundane what do you think about this new 45 year old plus online profile type of questions for months then starts passive aggressively posting in my threads because i eventually stopped replying to his peak retardation questions.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Yes. Why is it so hard for you guys to accept a code of respect and conduct/reprocussions? I don't enjoy fighting but if someone goes out of their way to cross a line and i think there will be no legal involvement, damn right i will do something about it. Holy crap. This thread proves how weak western men have become. All the male karens out in full force.

If you have to resort to violence to deal with verbal disrespect, you lack social skills. It’s a problem that needs to be worked on, as using violence in any situation that does not involve self-defense is an iffy proposition for all sorts of legal and practical reasons.

If someone is being annoying or disrespectful, I typically don’t even acknowledge their existence. I don’t listen, don’t look and don’t respond. Deal with them the same way you would deal with homeless people begging for change or those annoying “black history month” street preachers. You never know, the person that you think is “disrespecting” you may be off his meds or having some kind of a mental breakdown. No shortage of lunatics out there.

If the dude is persistent and just won’t leave you alone, do what Black Widow Void has suggested. “Sorry dude, I’m not gay. Go hit on someone else.”

 

[Reyaj]

I would have just laughed it off... I think you made a mountain out of a mole hill with this situation.

 

[typical]

Was pure AMOGing and an attempt at **** starting. He clearly wanted a reaction. I noticed his friend conveniently positioned behind me most of the time as well. I travel and have lived over seas a lot. A lot of foreign guys go over and try to take on this foreign god complex. Can spot those types from a mile.

Furthermore i just came from Colombia where i lived for 3 months. I have lived in many countries and travelled around a lot. I am not stupid enough to get into a physical altercation in any public place to where i would be at a disadvantage with the locals.

Save the safe space advice please. Have lived in Mexico, DR and Cambodia as well and witnessed a few murders in broad daylight. You aren't telling me anything new buddy. I am very cautious and alert of my surroundings at all times.

The worst physical altercation i ever got into overseas ironically was in Taipei, Taiwan when i was unknowingly banging a lower level Taiwanese mafia girlfriend and got bottled and jumped by a big group of them when entering a bar one night.

Then you've already answered yourself my man. You've got nothing to gain in any interaction with people like these, perhaps an opportunity to utilise one or more of the Laws of Power ?

You're also well travelled like myself (maybe more than me) so we both know sometimes it's better to just play the dumb guy and not start anything. Not every battle need to be fought, you're already way ahead in this game called life so if you can talk your way out of these situations the better. Then later on you can assess if someone needs to be paid a visit in the darkness of night or not.

 

[zinc4]

You're telling him to avoid confrontation, but I'd think with a comment like this, it would only escalate the situation.

A lot of these guys have clearly never been in situations where they had no choice but to fight. So the idea of violence seems to threaten them or rile them up. It has never been a part of their realities and they don't get it. Some people act and live by a simple code.

Has zero to do with "social skills" ffs. If you go out of your way to verbally spit on me i am not going to deflect or try to get into a verbal pissing match. I am thinking about the best way to do some real damage without getting caught/in trouble. Period.

Don't disrespect others and don't tolerate any unless you have have no other choice at the moment. It is really that simple. As long as you are smart you will be fine.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Can get you in good with the local cops zinc?

 

[TheCharmingGuy]

A lot of these guys have clearly never been in situations where they had no choice but to fight. So the idea of violence seems to threaten them or rile them up. It has never been a part of their realities and they don't get it. Some people act and live by a simple code.

Has zero to do with "social skills" ffs. If you go out of your way to verbally spit on me i am not going to deflect or try to get into a verbal pissing match. I am thinking about the best way to do some real damage without getting caught/in trouble. Period.

Don't disrespect others and don't tolerate any unless you have have no other choice at the moment. It is really that simple. As long as you are smart you will be fine.

The fact that you openly insult anybody who disagrees with your opinion instead of either accepting their opinion or politely debating does indeed indicate that you prefer confrontation to social skills, but it also makes you a d!ck. Read the room.

 

[bat soup]

Am still in Panama where i bought some property. Was out downstairs to get some local food today in a buffet style line and this guy comes behind me dancing with his head phones on flashy. A little short middle aged Hispanic looking guy. I don't drink often here but did last night and hungover pounding headache. So was extra annoyed....just wanted to get my food in peace. Pretty disrespectful i thought the way he was doing it. In an over the top manner to make the girl serving food laugh while try so hard to disrespect me as well because was right behind me facing me.

I think to myself, okay let the idiot have his fun i think not worth stressing over. So i progress further in the line he starts talking to me says he is from texas works for blah blah. I immediately just want to say shut the **** up i dont kniw you and already dont like you. So im wearing a black tank top and i am pretty tanned i guess. Am always out in the sun.

He asks me where im from i say Atlanta....then this little prick says oh, i saw your sun tan and thought you were a hick from Florida. He said it really fast too so i kind of was questioning myself if i heard him correctly, shocked that a total stranger would go out of his way to insult me in such a manner in a food line of all places. But i know i heard it.

So i said no im just a ****ING hick from Atlanta visibly pissed off glaring at him. He says yes Atlanta. It was the sun tan that threw me off. Then he tried to act friendly and translate what the cashier was saying and told me bye trying to fist bump me which i declined by acting like i didn't see it. The whole interaction was odd.

Earlier his friend had come up...a short fat guy from new jersey covered in tatoos. They both give off an older guy middle life crisis trying to be young and cool vibe. Looked to be in low 40s both of them...the instigator was a good bit shorter then me and ugly asf..... messed up looking eye brows but very outgoing and confident acting. Overly so. Probably coked up as it's everywhere down here.

One of the clauses in my property contract which is fully paid off is that the contract only goes void if i am caught breaking a law in Panama or arrested for anything. So obviously fighting is out of the question for me here. The police are very strict here and everywhere in this area. I invested a **** tonne of money and would be devastated if i lost it somehow.

This is the second time i have had ****y gringos try to AMOG me here btw. There are some really weird Americans down here ive noticed who try so hard to act "alpha" ive noticed. It's kind of like a small Chihuahua barking like he is a big dog is how i view it. And they are usually fluent in Spanish so they use that big time to kind of indirectly demean you in front of the locals if you arent fluent which i am studying abd practice daily to improve.

Anyways, i have a short temper and i dont like talking to strangers in the first place especially when hungover. So my first instinct was to swing on this guy, but i quickly caught myself. He is not worth potentially losing my investment that i worked so hard for but i seriously wanted to just beat tf out of him right then and there. I am a very respectful person in general and expect the same from others. Am very nice and courtesy but can flip out fast once someone crosses my line so to speak....man or woman. A lot of people mistake kindness for weakness unfortunately and have to learn the hard way.

Anyways, just seeing how you guys would deal with it. I don't believe in **** talking or arguing when a stranger disrespects me...i prefer to just strike them out of nowhere and get them either knocked out on the ground where i can pound them into submission or walk away. I see it as an all or nothing situation. No one should go around insulting or disrespecting strangers on purpose. I have learned this lesson myself the hard way many times in my younger days.

Usually i walk away 9 out of 10 times though depending on the situation. Have been in way too many fights already. Am a bit salty though that i couldn't just hit the guy. He had such a punchable face.

Besides potentially getting arrested, locals in these places will see you as the bad guy if you hit first and jump in themselves. So....it's really not feasible at all in that public setting.

He was probably just trying to be friendly. Look on the bright side - at least he didn't get his kok out.

 

[zinc4]

The fact that you openly insult anybody who disagrees with your opinion instead of either accepting their opinion or politely debating does indeed indicate that you prefer confrontation to social skills, but it also makes you a d!ck. Read the room.

Bro you are the one jumping to conclusions telling me to "grow a pair" and assuming no social skills. Is that polite?

Is this a woman's account? Serious question because you are obviously devoid of any logic and your first reply to my OP was emotionally charged for no good reason.

Am getting strong snowflake vibes from you in general. Male Karen confirmed.