How to deal with insecure guys who try to AMOG or insult/over compensate

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I would never strike a I am not out to hurt anyone ffs and i hate fighting in general.
I don't believe in **** talking or arguing when a stranger disrespects me...i prefer to just strike them out of nowhere and get them either knocked out on the ground where i can pound them into submission or walk away.
So your go-to method for dealing with conflict is to immediately start a fight… but you “hate fighting”. First I’ve heard that one, but I’ll let the people reading this thread draw their own conclusions. Grow a pair.
 

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So your go-to method for dealing with conflict is to immediately start a fight… but you “hate fighting”. First I’ve heard that one, but I’ll let the people reading this thread draw their own conclusions. Grow a pair.
You better hope you never end up in prison. Which, with so many laws today, could very well happen. Zinc's attitude would keep him from being victimized in prison. Where it's purely male dominance hierarchy. Though I don't see a need for that to be his first reaction in public, I can understand why it would be a first response.
 
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You better hope you never end up in prison. Which, with so many laws today, could very well happen. Zinc's attitude would keep him from being victimized in prison. Where it's purely male dominance hierarchy. Though I don't see a need for that to be his first reaction in public, I can understand why it would be a first response.
:D 50/50 coin toss on chances of any of us ending up serving a stretch?
 

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:D 50/50 coin toss on chances of any of us ending up serving a stretch?
Well, in the U.S. anyways.... There's what, over 4000 laws on the books. All it takes is having one beer, and some bike rider not paying attention and getting in the way of your vehicle then you hit and kill them. Get breathalyzed, and now doing time for vehicular manslaughter.
 
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Well, in the U.S. anyways.... There's what, over 4000 laws on the books. All it takes is having one beer, and some bike rider not paying attention and getting in the way of your vehicle then you hit and kill them. Get breathalyzed, and now doing time for vehicular manslaughter.
I get your point and would be lying if I said I've never thought about learning some kind of fighting skill, 1 of the reasons being if I somehow ended up prison lol.

Funny thing is though, by being quick to violence, the chances of you ending up serving a sentence goes up a fair bit. Prisons are mainly populated by men with short tempers, poor self control. I chap I know from the gym served a sentance after beating someone up at a petrol (gas) station. Somehow got into an argument, god knows true/full story.

Being able to handle yourself is a good skill to have though, in fact considering enrolling my daughter into some kind of martial arts/self defense class at a young age.
 

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So your go-to method for dealing with conflict is to immediately start a fight… but you “hate fighting”. First I’ve heard that one, but I’ll let the people reading this thread draw their own conclusions. Grow a pair.

Yes. Why is it so hard for you guys to accept a code of respect and conduct/reprocussions? I don't enjoy fighting but if someone goes out of their way to cross a line and i think there will be no legal involvement, damn right i will do something about it. Holy crap. This thread proves how weak western men have become. All the male karens out in full force.

And @biggoal i doubt you will walk up and antagonize anyone in the first place for no reason, so your pulling the pistol comment doesn't even make sense.
 

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Yes. Why is it so hard for you guys to accept a code of respect and conduct/reprocussions? I don't enjoy fighting but if someone goes out of their way to cross a line and i think there will be no legal involvement, damn right i will do something about it. Holy crap. This thread proves how weak western men have become. All the male karens out in full force.

And @biggoal i doubt you will walk up and antagonize anyone in the first place for no reason, so your pulling the pistol comment doesn't even make sense.
I don't go around like a stumbling drunk trying to cause trouble. I was saying if someone came up and knocked me over.

do that to a law enforcement officer. Knock them down and see what happens.
 

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I don't go around like a stumbling drunk trying to cause trouble. I was saying if someone came up and knocked me over.

do that to a law enforcement officer. Knock them down and see what happens.

Literally nothing you are saying is even relevant to the OP. Some serious lack of reading comprehension going in.
 

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Yes. Why is it so hard for you guys to accept a code of respect and conduct/reprocussions? I don't enjoy fighting but if someone goes out of their way to cross a line and i think there will be no legal involvement, damn right i will do something about it. Holy crap. This thread proves how weak western men have become. All the male karens out in full force.

And @biggoal i doubt you will walk up and antagonize anyone in the first place for no reason, so your pulling the pistol comment doesn't even make sense.
I was pointing out that your opinion that fighting is the best way to solve a problem and your other statement that you “hate fighting” directly contradict each other. I am not making a pass on your opinion, in fact, I never addressed my own views on that matter.

Additionally, @biggoal’s pistol comment seemed pretty clear to me.
 

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Fake validate the try hard AMOGs. Their fragile egos lap it up.

There's a good boy. Wow what a big d!ck you have. Proceed to use their stupidity against them. Take their money fwiw
 

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Zinc you're gonna get shanked or worse one day. Seriously man you need to sort out your anger issues and accept that not everyone has good social skills or will be respectful.
Also I don't think anything they said was disrespectful, they could of been just making light hearted banter because you're a fellow American.

Also if these guys are there just on holiday they haven't got anything to lose, you on the other hand have plenty to lose.
Also if they are talking loudly in Spanish in front of other locals and you feel they are AMOGing you it could be that YOU are seen as the outsider and they aren't. I wouldn't start anything up in central or South America, I've seen people killed over a parking spot in Columbia and Brazil.
 

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Zinc you're gonna get shanked or worse one day. Seriously man you need to sort out your anger issues and accept that not everyone has good social skills or will be respectful.
Also I don't think anything they said was disrespectful, they could of been just making light hearted banter because you're a fellow American.

Also if these guys are there just on holiday they haven't got anything to lose, you on the other hand have plenty to lose.
Also if they are talking loudly in Spanish in front of other locals and you feel they are AMOGing you it could be that YOU are seen as the outsider and they aren't. I wouldn't start anything up in central or South America, I've seen people killed over a parking spot in Columbia and Brazil.

Was pure AMOGing and an attempt at **** starting. He clearly wanted a reaction. I noticed his friend conveniently positioned behind me most of the time as well. I travel and have lived over seas a lot. A lot of foreign guys go over and try to take on this foreign god complex. Can spot those types from a mile.

Furthermore i just came from Colombia where i lived for 3 months. I have lived in many countries and travelled around a lot. I am not stupid enough to get into a physical altercation in any public place to where i would be at a disadvantage with the locals.

Save the safe space advice please. Have lived in Mexico, DR and Cambodia as well and witnessed a few murders in broad daylight. You aren't telling me anything new buddy. I am very cautious and alert of my surroundings at all times.

The worst physical altercation i ever got into overseas ironically was in Taipei, Taiwan when i was unknowingly banging a lower level Taiwanese mafia girlfriend and got bottled and jumped by a big group of them when entering a bar one night.
 
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Additionally, @biggoal’s pistol comment seemed pretty clear to me.
Biggoal needs to stick to online cougar obsessing and stocking cellphone shelves. The guy was is in my inbox with mundane what do you think about this new 45 year old plus online profile type of questions for months then starts passive aggressively posting in my threads because i eventually stopped replying to his peak retardation questions.
 
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Yes. Why is it so hard for you guys to accept a code of respect and conduct/reprocussions? I don't enjoy fighting but if someone goes out of their way to cross a line and i think there will be no legal involvement, damn right i will do something about it. Holy crap. This thread proves how weak western men have become. All the male karens out in full force.
If you have to resort to violence to deal with verbal disrespect, you lack social skills. It’s a problem that needs to be worked on, as using violence in any situation that does not involve self-defense is an iffy proposition for all sorts of legal and practical reasons.

If someone is being annoying or disrespectful, I typically don’t even acknowledge their existence. I don’t listen, don’t look and don’t respond. Deal with them the same way you would deal with homeless people begging for change or those annoying “black history month” street preachers. You never know, the person that you think is “disrespecting” you may be off his meds or having some kind of a mental breakdown. No shortage of lunatics out there.

If the dude is persistent and just won’t leave you alone, do what Black Widow Void has suggested. “Sorry dude, I’m not gay. Go hit on someone else.”
 

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If the dude is persistent and just won’t leave you alone, do what Black Widow Void has suggested. “Sorry dude, I’m not gay. Go hit on someone else.”
You're telling him to avoid confrontation, but I'd think with a comment like this, it would only escalate the situation.
 

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Was pure AMOGing and an attempt at **** starting. He clearly wanted a reaction. I noticed his friend conveniently positioned behind me most of the time as well. I travel and have lived over seas a lot. A lot of foreign guys go over and try to take on this foreign god complex. Can spot those types from a mile.

Furthermore i just came from Colombia where i lived for 3 months. I have lived in many countries and travelled around a lot. I am not stupid enough to get into a physical altercation in any public place to where i would be at a disadvantage with the locals.

Save the safe space advice please. Have lived in Mexico, DR and Cambodia as well and witnessed a few murders in broad daylight. You aren't telling me anything new buddy. I am very cautious and alert of my surroundings at all times.

The worst physical altercation i ever got into overseas ironically was in Taipei, Taiwan when i was unknowingly banging a lower level Taiwanese mafia girlfriend and got bottled and jumped by a big group of them when entering a bar one night.
Then you've already answered yourself my man. You've got nothing to gain in any interaction with people like these, perhaps an opportunity to utilise one or more of the Laws of Power ?

You're also well travelled like myself (maybe more than me) so we both know sometimes it's better to just play the dumb guy and not start anything. Not every battle need to be fought, you're already way ahead in this game called life so if you can talk your way out of these situations the better. Then later on you can assess if someone needs to be paid a visit in the darkness of night or not.
 

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You're telling him to avoid confrontation, but I'd think with a comment like this, it would only escalate the situation.

A lot of these guys have clearly never been in situations where they had no choice but to fight. So the idea of violence seems to threaten them or rile them up. It has never been a part of their realities and they don't get it. Some people act and live by a simple code.

Has zero to do with "social skills" ffs. If you go out of your way to verbally spit on me i am not going to deflect or try to get into a verbal pissing match. I am thinking about the best way to do some real damage without getting caught/in trouble. Period.

Don't disrespect others and don't tolerate any unless you have have no other choice at the moment. It is really that simple. As long as you are smart you will be fine.
 

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Can get you in good with the local cops zinc?
 

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