How to be a man with a penis?

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Babnik said:
How do you make yourself entirely relaxed? I get nervous because I keep like expecting something and its SO difficult to relax yourself no matter what I say to myself. Thats why alcohol helps a lot, but thats not a real solution.

So, how to relax yourself around women?
Your answered yourself.
You write "I get nervous because I keep like expecting something"

Therin lies the problem/answer. Your expectation.
Your nervous cause you have an intended outcome in mind, and the potential of it not happening the way you want it to... creates that feeling. This is where the ZEN of pick-up comes into play.

You have to go beyond caring whether it works out or not. Such indifference will do 2 things.

1. Keep you relaxed, cause you have nothing invested in the outcome.
2. Only attract her more. (For a plethora of reasons, which I'm sure you understand)

I haven't read the post in awhile... but I think Pook's "Kill that desperation" would be a relevant and beneficial read. (I'm sure some other cats on here can reccomend some other posts regarding the perspective of indifference to outcome) AKA... the key your looking for in regards to being relaxed.

Another thing I would reccomend is... INTEGRATION OF YOUR FEELINGS.

This personally was my key issue with women, and being relaxed. I found from my bent of character being a nice guy, as well as some poor conditionings in regards with expressing my masculine essence/sexuality... I had created a lot of repressed feelings.

Those repressed thoughts/emotions of sexuality, etc... over time turned into an ugly aggressive energy towards wormen. I had so much repressed "I WANT TO FVCK HER" feelings, that when with an attractive woman... rather than it being my golden sexual flow, like DJF was talking about, and would wet the pvssy/creating sexual attraction. It did the opposite... sort of scared b!tches, and I'd have no choice but to hide it again.

Well............ theres only one way to break that chain, and thats BREAKING IT. You just have to go through it. Accept such repressed emotions, process it! Start your path back to being an integrated whole MAN. Natural and Powerful! Cause once you do, it turns into the exact key your looking for. A brilliant sexual energy, attractive, powerful, and just the devilish suave a DJ shimmers.

So maybe look into some avenues of medititation. Look within yourself, and dig up some of that dark violent repressed sex, and process that sh!t. You'll be infinitely grateful you did. That energy will translate to the better quality of life/living that we here as aspiring MEN aim to realize.

SuaveOn'
 

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I would advise to be sexual right off the bat,drop a couple innuendos,c+f etc,you'll get rejected/flaked more but when you don't you'll probably end in bed with the girl.
 

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Well your explanation on your situation was pretty brief, i agree with the rest though, you probably wern't using enough touch.

Also, she could just be a dud...
 

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Thank you DarkLight!
You have just explained to me what sexual state isn't!

Those repressed thoughts/emotions of sexuality, etc... over time turned into an ugly aggressive energy towards wormen. I had so much repressed "I WANT TO FVCK HER" feelings, that when with an attractive woman... rather than it being my golden sexual flow, like DJF was talking about, and would wet the pvssy/creating sexual attraction. It did the opposite... sort of scared b!tches, and I'd have no choice but to hide it again.
I think a lot of people that read GunWitch or DonJuanForever do the same mistake. There is a difference between being a SEXUAL MAN and a HORNY ****.

So, how to relax yourself around women?
Do the thing you are most comfortable with, then you won't have to worry about anything else but your woman.
I am most relaxed in a comfortable chair that I can lie on with a cup of coffee or beer.
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Migel said:
Thank you DarkLight!
You have just explained to me what sexual state isn't!



I think a lot of people that read GunWitch or DonJuanForever do the same mistake. There is a difference between being a SEXUAL MAN and a HORNY ****.



Do the thing you are most comfortable with, then you won't have to worry about anything else but your woman.
I am most relaxed in a comfortable chair that I can lie on with a cup of coffee or beer.

Invite her for a workout in the gym? Play computer games? Attend technology and business seminars?

That would be boring...real boring.

I also club but many girls won't go to a club with a guy on the first date or until they get to know them real well.
 

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Migel said:
Thank you DarkLight!
You have just explained to me what sexual state isn't!

I think a lot of people that read GunWitch or DonJuanForever do the same mistake. There is a difference between being a SEXUAL MAN and a HORNY ****.
YW!
... and I agree.

The way I see it, the difference is just, one has integrated and accepted their sexuality. While the other is not yet a man, boiling with his repressed sexuality, and thus sort of neurotic because of it. Pychologically a little boy, in that he doesn't yet have the resources of his natural being. Those resources are the fountain of game. So accept your nature, accept that you want to "FVCKIN TEAR THAT PVSSY UP!"... So you can process the violence of that energy, into Suave Seductive Sexuality'

Small difference, but worlds apart.............. AFC to DJ!
 

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DarkLight said:
YW!
... and I agree.

The way I see it, the difference is just, one has integrated and accepted their sexuality. While the other is not yet a man, boiling with his repressed sexuality, and thus sort of neurotic because of it. Pychologically a little boy, in that he doesn't yet have the resources of his natural being. Those resources are the fountain of game. So accept your nature, accept that you want to "FVCKIN TEAR THAT PVSSY UP!"... So you can process the violence of that energy, into Suave Seductive Sexuality'

Small difference, but worlds apart.............. AFC to DJ!
If you want to tear that kitten up...you're horny, not sexual!
 

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Babnik said:
If you want to tear that kitten up...you're horny, not sexual!
Well, actually you'd be both.

My meaning was no matter what the intensity... its no longer has a "sick" twisted feel to it anymore. Its processed natural horny energy. Not repressed kookoo sh!t.

For Example... the difference between:
A Catholic repressed sick fvcker priest.
Or a Don Juan Suave Ladies Man.

One has accepted, and integrated his natural sexual desire... the other repressed it, thus warped it into neurotic/violent levels.

Thats the difference I was trying to explain.

So process your sh!t, fellow DJ's.
(so you can sit there w. HB-Bunny, relaxed and letting all your natural healthy sexuality flow, and w. just a smirk and some deep sexual EC...turn her on, and wet those panties, PLAYA!)
 

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THE_ADDMAN said:
you might be too perfect. bodybuilding, great grades, handsome with good confidence and body language?

u might be intimidating the girls.
That's what I think it is.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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DarkLight said:
Well, actually you'd be both.

My meaning was no matter what the intensity... its no longer has a "sick" twisted feel to it anymore. Its processed natural horny energy. Not repressed kookoo sh!t.

For Example... the difference between:
A Catholic repressed sick fvcker priest.
Or a Don Juan Suave Ladies Man.

One has accepted, and integrated his natural sexual desire... the other repressed it, thus warped it into neurotic/violent levels.
Yeah. The same with Nice Guy, he has repressed his sexual desire to a point where he denies it even exists, so he acts like a neutered man in front of women.
The biggest change in my life came when I actually realized I want to have a girlfriend and I want to have sex. It seems dumb but accepting that fact made me channel my energy into improving myself. I realized that I need to become worthy of the women I want. That is "processed natural horny energy".


Babnik: If you think the girl is insecure then dump her, don't waste time on improving her. But be sure that's the point because you're probably doing something wrong yourself.
 

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Migel said:
Yeah. The same with Nice Guy, he has repressed his sexual desire to a point where he denies it even exists, so he acts like a neutered man in front of women.
The biggest change in my life came when I actually realized I want to have a girlfriend and I want to have sex. It seems dumb but accepting that fact made me channel my energy into improving myself. I realized that I need to become worthy of the women I want. That is "processed natural horny energy".
Exactly. That was my story as well. Not so cut and dry awakening... but the realization that I had a lot of repressed sexual energy to integrate/process. The nice-guy conditioning crippled my natural sexual power, and mischeviously wonderful charm into something ugly. I found I had a lot of rage towards women. Mostly because I would seek their approval, and resent them for not meeting my expectations. So in essence, to the amount that I open and integrate those channels (of repressed sexuality), is the amount I've become more DJ.

Bottom line... if your already too "perfect"... focus more on just creating real rapport w. her then. Be more human, vulnerable. Get to know babydoll... connect. Once she sees your not OUT OF THIS WORLD, but still a great catch... she'll be feelin the reality of you (and her). Voila!

But personally... I don't think thats the case.
I gotta side more w. DJF's perspective.
 

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DarkLight said:
Exactly. That was my story as well. Not so cut and dry awakening... but the realization that I had a lot of repressed sexual energy to integrate/process. The nice-guy conditioning crippled my natural sexual power, and mischeviously wonderful charm into something ugly. I found I had a lot of rage towards women. Mostly because I would seek their approval, and resent them for not meeting my expectations. So in essence, to the amount that I open and integrate those channels (of repressed sexuality), is the amount I've become more DJ.

Bottom line... if your already too "perfect"... focus more on just creating real rapport w. her then. Be more human, vulnerable. Get to know babydoll... connect. Once she sees your not OUT OF THIS WORLD, but still a great catch... she'll be feelin the reality of you (and her). Voila!

But personally... I don't think thats the case.
I gotta side more w. DJF's perspective.

Sorry keeping the thread up, but I don't hate women, and yet..this sexual state is like...uh...well I got it once I think... It was with a group of friends and some chick was with us. I didn't know who she was but since I knew I won't see her again, I kept staring right in her eyes and telling myself how much I want to f*ck her. In the end, right after dinner she was all over me.

BUT, I didn't talk or approach her or anything. Also, staring is kind of wierd esepcially if you don't approach a person.

I don't even know for sure if thats what you are talking about.

Its like a mystery that you really can't describe in words.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Sexual state is just when its on.
Your talking w. a chick, and there's "chemistry"
The air is electric, and you know you just want to "FVCK!"
(most often... since your in that state of just total sexual power... won't be long till you'll both be in that state, thus it being the key)

It can happen within the first minute of talking.
Sh!t, it can happen first glance!

Its those moments where your motherfvckin natural DonJuan self is just sterling. Your saying the right things. Your moving in the right ways. Your all powerful, cause you know you just got that sh!t... and its fvckin ON!
(you don't even need to have that same feedback really, from her... you just need to know it within yourself, how can she resist? lol)

I guess my dilemma where I'm at now, within myself is how to turn this switch on? Or is that even what I want to do?

When it lights up naturally... its natural, and that connection is there. I gotta trust that sh!t. Maybe if I'm not feelin a chick... it shouldn't be. So why worry about forcing some switch!?... if it even exists!?

I've found 2 answers to this.
1. To hype myself, thinking sexual sh!t. (lesser answer)
2. To integrate myself more as a sexual being... a MAN. (greater answer)

The latter of those 2 answers, I guess you could say... has made the first occur more often. It naturally clicks with more women, and its the golden smirk dance ;)... from there on out. Because of a greater expression of my sexuality, I guess it attracts and turns more women on... which naturally then, turns me on more. And it just goes "there" more easily and with more women... If I so choose.

You feel me!?

If someone else has other insight into how to get into this sexual state more, or on cue... lets hear it. That is just what insight I can offer from my own personal experience thus far. Anything beyond that, would be speculation.

Thats what most of the posts on here about increasing testosterone are all about. Pook's sexuality posts, be a man, working out... all that sh!t is to cater to increasing ones expression of sexuality... for the purpose of being more in, and of this state.

Personally... I've found meditation to be the most powerful vehicle in energetic transformation. Multi-dimensionally as well. Not only do I integrate my sexual repression, into my sexual glow... but countless other issues are dealt with as well, that cater to being a secure, confident MAN/DJ. Energetically your body really starts changing as well. Chakras, Chi, Meridians, Your Psychic Sense, Intelligence, Power, Strength, Will, Detachment, Indifference, etc etc etc.

You guys really want to check out an ill Meditation Cat... just mention it here. He was a buddha (enlightend being)... and outlawed in 22 countries at the time of his death. Hahahaa... don't know bout you... but I'd def. want to hear what this man was about, and had to say.

Anyways... back to the thread... maybe DJF can kick some experiential insight, into his utilization and amplyfication of the "sexual state."

Peace'
 

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DarkLight said:
Sexual state is just when its on.
Your talking w. a chick, and there's "chemistry"
The air is electric, and you know, you both want to "FVCK!"

It can happen within the first minute of talking.
Sh!t, it can happen first glance!

Its those moments where your motherfvckin natural DonJuan self is just sterling. Your saying the right things. Your moving in the right ways. Your all powerful, cause you know you just got that sh!t... and its fvckin ON!
(you don't even need to have that same feedback really, from her... you just need to know it within yourself, how can she resist? lol)

I guess my dilemma where I'm at now, within myself is how to turn this switch on? Or is that even what I want to do?

When it lights up naturally... its natural, and that connection is there. I gotta trust that sh!t. Maybe if I'm not feelin a chick... it shouldn't be. So why worry about forcing some switch!?... if it even exists!?

I've found 2 answers to this.
1. To hype myself, thinking sexual sh!t. (lesser answer)
2. To integrate myself more as a sexual being... a MAN. (greater answer)

The latter of those 2 answers, I guess you could say... has made the first occur more often. It naturally clicks with more women, and its the golden smirk dance ;)... from there on out. Because of a greater expression of my sexuality, I guess it attracts and turns more women on... which naturally then, turns me on more. And it just goes "there" more easily and with more women... If I so choose.

You feel me!?

If someone else has other insight into how to get into this sexual state more, or on cue... lets hear it. That is just what insight I can offer from my own personal experience thus far. Anything beyond that, would be speculation.

Thats what most of the posts on here about increasing testosterone are all about. Pook's sexuality posts, be a man, working out... all that sh!t is to cater to increasing ones expression of sexuality... for the purpose of being more in, and of this state.

Personally... I've found meditation to be the most powerful vehicle in energetic transformation. Multi-dimensionally as well. Not only do I integrate my sexual repression, into my sexual glow... but countless other issues are dealt with as well, that cater to being a secure, confident MAN/DJ. Energetically your body really starts changing as well. Chakras, Chi, Meridians, Your Psychic Sense, Intelligence, Power, Strength, Will, Detachment, Indifference, etc etc etc.

You guys really want to check out an ill Meditation Cat... just mention it here. He was a buddha (enlightend being)... and outlawed in 22 countries at the time of his death. Hahahaa... don't know bout you... but I'd def. want to hear what this man was about, and had to say.

Anyways... back to the thread... maybe DJF can kick some experiential insight, into his utilization and amplyfication of the "sexual state."

Peace'

I think I know what you're talking about now...the problem is that I get this feeling rarely upon meeting a girl...very rarely regardless of how she looks like (I get it towards not so hot girls sometimes, but mostly hot ones).

Thing is, I now understand....that THEY are the kind of girls I never approach and yet I can tell when they look at me there is that little something...

So I end up approaching girls that give me none of that feeling and of course, friendship is the only thing that can happen at that point.

But since it happpens so rarely, you can't really practice your sexuality thing that much. Can't do it on random girls... cuz it just...happens.
 

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Well thats the thing... you can increase your sexualness/testosterone etc.

Thus... creating more scenarios of sexual attraction, with more women.

....................... the path of the DonJuan!

Its a refinement of who you are. The higher you refine yourself, and energies... the more women are going to be attracted to the light/the quality.

Anyways... you should check out this post by disciple.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=60358&highlight=women+chasing

Its sort of the pychology of creating those moments, where you feel that "little something." Then you simply run your game on them... have fun, and own that ****, with sexual state of seduction/ownership.

But I think its starting to come to light for you, in as far as your original question, with this thread.

You summed it up here...
Babnik said:
Thing is, I now understand....that THEY are the kind of girls I never approach and yet I can tell when they look at me there is that little something...

So I end up approaching girls that give me none of that feeling and of course, friendship is the only thing that can happen at that point.
Start hunting the girls that give you that feeling.
And for the ones that don't give you that feeling, but you still want to get... learn to create that feeling... like disciple talks about in that post.

Also... I think you can "practice your sexuality."
Small example...I just read yesterday in the DJ tip of the day... some good lil sh!t.
Flirt with everyone. Nasty chicks, whatever. Just get yourself in a flirty charming mode. Have fun w. it... you'll get your game practiced, on, and it'll become second nature to be sexually charming w. women. I used to work as a waiter, and as part of my hustle you do this. I could see the social and DJ benefits of it... through time, as it became part of my everyday character.

Also, like in my previous posts... learn to accept your thoughts/feelings of a sexual nature. Learn to enjoy them, and break any conditioning down within you against sex. This will internally start to rewire, and open the floodgates of your energetic sexual potential as a man. This is the fuel to higher levels of being. Get to know it, learn to value/appreciate and amplify it.

SuaveOn'
 

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DarkLight said:
Well thats the thing... you can increase your sexualness/testosterone etc.

Thus... creating more scenarios of sexual attraction, with more women.

....................... the path of the DonJuan!

Its a refinement of who you are. The higher you refine yourself, and energies... the more women are going to be attracted to the light/the quality.

Anyways... you should check out this post by disciple.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=60358&highlight=women+chasing

Its sort of the pychology of creating those moments, where you feel that "little something." Then you simply run your game on them... have fun, and own that ****, with sexual state of seduction/ownership.

But I think its starting to come to light for you, in as far as your original question, with this thread.

You summed it up here...


Start hunting the girls that give you that feeling.
And for the ones that don't give you that feeling, but you still want to get... learn to create that feeling... like disciple talks about in that post.

Also... I think you can "practice your sexuality."
Small example...I just read yesterday in the DJ tip of the day... some good lil sh!t.
Flirt with everyone. Nasty chicks, whatever. Just get yourself in a flirty charming mode. Have fun w. it... you'll get your game practiced, on, and it'll become second nature to be sexually charming w. women. I used to work as a waiter, and as part of my hustle you do this. I could see the social and DJ benefits of it... through time, as it became part of my everyday character.

Also, like in my previous posts... learn to accept your thoughts/feelings of a sexual nature. Learn to enjoy them, and break any conditioning down within you against sex. This will internally start to rewire, and open the floodgates of your energetic sexual potential as a man. This is the fuel to higher levels of being. Get to know it, learn to value/appreciate and amplify it.

SuaveOn'


Thanks. You were quite helpful.

Another issue I have is that I can compare western women with eastern european women (where I and my parents come from and lived for most of our lives). Lets just say that they are TOTALLY different and nice. Nice in action, not words. You CAN buy them flowers and it WILL make them feel freaking awesome. Like, not feel good about themselves, but actualy get turned on and they'd start being playful and go after you. They also want you to be close to them, sit close to them (they ask for that themselves). And here its considered clingy and too interested... GOD FORBID to buy a woman flowers in US! Thats like UNMANLY. My friend did that once and she told him to never call her again.

I always told to treat women gently with lots of respect by my parents, but those were old traditional eastern european women who deserved that.

In US women are so independent and it irritates them to do ANTYTHING at all for men. Most, not all.

When you meet one that does not strive to be independent, the whole feeling and vibe is so different. Its less sexual but you want to DO things for each other. Not just you doing things for her but her doing things for you as well.

Most guys think that that quiet angel in the back of the classroom is the nicest girl ever. But she could be the biggest b!tch ever in this shell of niceness and sweetness.

And this vibe seems to be all about sex...thats not a relationship for me. A relationship is partly sexual, but you have to have 2 people that genuinely CARE about each other. Not CHASE one another.
 

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you have to have 2 people that genuinely CARE about each other. Not CHASE one another.
That's AFC thinking. Look at your guy friends. I care for my friends but I'm a **** around them and tease them constantly. It's because you can't care about somebody if there is no spark of that chemistry that is created from chasing. See the world as it is, not as you want it to be.

European women are different, but biologically they are still human and being a sexual man will work always. So we got to work on it.


DarkLight:
I guess my dilemma where I'm at now, within myself is how to turn this switch on? Or is that even what I want to do?
I don't believe you can switch this on consciously. It's something natural, built-in your biology. It's as if you wanted to feel hungry for something. For example: you are stuffed and you see a delicious cherry pie. You know you want it, but you just can't feel the hunger for it. You can force yourself to eat it but you will just feel bad afterwards.
Part of the problem I see with men here (and myself) is just that they don't have the sexual drive they think they want. They see people (in movies or friends) that constantly get laid and think they want that too, but they don't realize that these people might just have a different sex drive. Even GunWitch said that he goes out every 2 weeks or less because he doesn't need more.
There are techniques to increase your drive. For example I am hungry as hell after working out, so there are ways to become more often in sexual state.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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