How the hell do most avg mid to late 20s men have dating lives???

[Fzatf]

the problem for me is I'm a 7-8 in real life but only really a 5-6 in pics...a male 5-6 on a dating site wanting a 7-8 female is in a very very difficult group. Women who are 5's online can easily ask for (and usually get) male 8s because dating is so incredibly biased in their favor but the opposite of that...I can't even imagine how difficult that would be

and I wouldn't do tinder, I would do match/eharmony/etc... I want to know everything about the other person. The more info I know, the better.

It's difficult but not impossible. On tinder you don't even have to send messages until a girl matches with you. All you need to do is swipe right on the girls you like and then you can message the girls you like. You can do it. Stop assuming it's impossible. Get swiping! If you won't do tinder. Then get on match and put in the work. Stop giving up before you try. Imagine if you had the same attitude at work as you do with women. It wouldn't get you anywhere.

 

[Soflobro#2]

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I've wanted a girlfriend since I was 16

I've slept with maybe 10-14 women but they've all been 50 leagues below my league - the usual garbage - single moms, some were chubby, couple were mediocre in the face, 1 was a heavy smoker, some were way too old (30+), etc...

Never ever date ANY woman who drinks, smokes, or does drugs. Ever.

 

[Soflobro#2]

the problem for me is I'm a 7-8 in real life but only really a 5-6 in pics...a male 5-6 on a dating site wanting a 7-8 female is in a very very difficult group. Women who are 5's online can easily ask for (and usually get) male 8s because dating is so incredibly biased in their favor but the opposite of that...I can't even imagine how difficult that would be

and I wouldn't do tinder, I would do match/eharmony/etc... I want to know everything about the other person. The more info I know, the better.

When i first came to South Florida for rehab before that i was homeless, in the winter time in the Midwest. I got very lucky and a church my family used to be a member of paid the $348 for a month for health insurance for me. They threw me a rope when I was drowning. I had no options. No solution.

After rehab i went to a halfway. Within 22 days i had a job. After a couple weeks of working i made a pof account. I messaged a few women and got two interested.

I was spinning two plates. So I went from being completely fvcked with out a regular place to shower, to having to juggle two women, within a period of under 90 days. who one was 45, one was 19.

Like it's not that hard. You just care to much for whatever reason and it shows.

The Golden rule of any relationship is the one who cares the least has the most power. Well you're the one who cares the most every time apparently which is fine but you need to just accept reality first and then take the necessary ACTIONS to change it? Good to go?

It has NOTHING to do with your pics, besides your rich right? Get them professionally done and if it still doesn't work that must not be the problem right?

Im going to tell you again and again it's all your mindset which is affecting your personality and behavior. You have a sick desperation about you and women can sense it.

 

[17 shots]

Dave stfu... you don't listen at all to anyone. You have a rebuttal to every piece of advice anyone offers. Why does a guy who thinks he knows everything keep asking questions. I really wish people would stop entertaining your threads

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Agree . This is the time to listen. Your viewpoint isn't working for this endeavor.

 

[bigdave17]

When i first came to South Florida for rehab before that i was homeless, in the winter time in the Midwest. I got very lucky and a church my family used to be a member of paid the $348 for a month for health insurance for me. They threw me a rope when I was drowning. I had no options. No solution.

After rehab i went to a halfway. Within 22 days i had a job. After a couple weeks of working i made a pof account. I messaged a few women and got two interested.

I was spinning two plates. So I went from being completely fvcked with out a regular place to shower, to having to juggle two women, within a period of under 90 days. who one was 45, one was 19.

Like it's not that hard. You just care to much for whatever reason and it shows.

The Golden rule of any relationship is the one who cares the least has the most power. Well you're the one who cares the most every time apparently which is fine but you need to just accept reality first and then take the necessary ACTIONS to change it? Good to go?

It has NOTHING to do with your pics, besides your rich right? Get them professionally done and if it still doesn't work that must not be the problem right?

Im going to tell you again and again it's all your mindset which is affecting your personality and behavior. You have a sick desperation about you and women can sense it.

desperation in online dating? how can they sense it when we're not even going out

 

[Soflobro#2]

desperation in online dating? how can they sense it when we're not even going out

You're not interesting enough. You don't excite them enough emotionally. So they waste your time.

 

[flowtheory]

Dave stfu... You don't listen at all to anyone. You have a rebuttal to every piece of advice anyone offers. Why does a guy who thinks he knows everything keep asking questions. I really wish people would stop entertaining your threads

This.

There is no progress being made here.

 

[Alvafe]

This.

There is no progress being made here.

of course there is, he is a attencion w|-|ore, you know that kind of guy who need constant validation by others if not he feels like something is wrong? pretty much a female, that is him

the way he thinks about himself would mean he at the very least he would ahve a over board confidence, but in his mind since he is not getting constant validation he is wrong so he mind enter in overdrive, even his rebuttals is the same, the best we could do is ignore him, so he will try even harder to get we to talk on his topics

 

[mrgoodstuff]

When i first came to South Florida for rehab before that i was homeless, in the winter time in the Midwest. I got very lucky and a church my family used to be a member of paid the $348 for a month for health insurance for me. They threw me a rope when I was drowning. I had no options. No solution.

After rehab i went to a halfway. Within 22 days i had a job. After a couple weeks of working i made a pof account. I messaged a few women and got two interested.

I was spinning two plates. So I went from being completely fvcked with out a regular place to shower, to having to juggle two women, within a period of under 90 days. who one was 45, one was 19.

Like it's not that hard. You just care to much for whatever reason and it shows.

The Golden rule of any relationship is the one who cares the least has the most power. Well you're the one who cares the most every time apparently which is fine but you need to just accept reality first and then take the necessary ACTIONS to change it? Good to go?

It has NOTHING to do with your pics, besides your rich right? Get them professionally done and if it still doesn't work that must not be the problem right?

Im going to tell you again and again it's all your mindset which is affecting your personality and behavior. You have a sick desperation about you and women can sense it.

Awesome story.

 

[malz1]

All handsome men that look approachable will be approached by decent girls even in their 20's. You're not getting approached by that crowd. Therefore, you must not be handsome...

Stop with the ethnic looks talk too. True good looking men transcend race. Maybe you have cute features? But a handsome man gets chased. Period. But who knows, maybe you are one but look uptight. I used to be uptight mainly but started loosening up and then things just worked out.

 

[Murk]

All handsome men that look approachable will be approached by decent girls even in their 20's. You're not getting approached by that crowd. Therefore, you must not be handsome...

Stop with the ethnic looks talk too. True good looking men transcend race. Maybe you have cute features? But a handsome man gets chased. Period. But who knows, maybe you are one but look uptight. I used to be uptight mainly but started loosening up and then things just worked out.

Yes in my late teens to early twenties I got a lot of good looking girls telling me I looked stuck up and like I thought I was too good to be approached. It was never on purpose I was just kind of shy. Maybe dave is decent looking but his body language is not approachable, more than likely he's just not as good looking as he thinks.

 

[NSX-R]

Dude I'm exactly in the same boat as you .
I'm a very good looking 6 3 fit guy with enough money to live a very good life .

Reading your posts i thought that someone was speaking about myself .

Listen . You are in a frustration. I had the same thing some time ago . I was seeing and still see unattractive guys with nothing ,dating super hot chicks . I was bothered by it and i was trying to realise why the same thing couldn't happen to me .

Even though i was very concerned by it , I tried to do something about it . I started going out . Once and sometimes twice a week with my best friend . I couldn't more because schedule wouldn't allow it . The first 5-6 times i had zero results . The reason was that i wasn't confortable enough to go out and i had to get used in this kind of lifestyle . So once i got used , i started making friends. My best friend is also very attractive.

So i made a few friends and then i went out with them . Out of the 10 new friends, 2 or 3 of them knew some chicks . I met those chicks and ****ed some of them .

Another important factor was that i was going mostly at the same club . I knew all the waitresses and me and my best friend fcked some of them . But we got to know the names of the waitresses after long time .

Some of the waitresses introduced us to some of their female friends which we also fcked a couple of them .

I was able in 7 months to build a circle of 100 people which 30 of them are females and 30 out of 30 females are 7.5 < .

And zero cold approaches. I don't like them .

What was the key . I think first of all resources. If i didn't had enough money to go full crazy ,i wouldn't be in those places .

Then patience and time. You have to learn something before becoming it's master . It's stupid to complain that you are bad at something without doing any practice.

It takes a while but you get better each time.

I think it's better to be concerned first on how to make a milion and more, than how to get a woman . I think getting a woman is the easiest thing in the world .

 

[EyeBRollin]

It’s all volume and attitude. I was banging 25 women per year before my current gf. I’m only slightly upper middle class, and I’m short (5’7).

It’s also who you go for. I usually only got 1-2 really hot 9s per year. Most were 6-7s, with a handful of 8s. Don’t expect to bang 10s if you aren’t 6’3 and stunningly handsome. Once you bang a few really hot chicks you realize they usually don’t have anything else to offer outside of that.

 

[bigdave17]

It’s all volume and attitude. I was banging 25 women per year before my current gf. I’m only slightly upper middle class, and I’m short (5’7).

It’s also who you go for. I usually only got 1-2 really hot 9s per year. Most were 6-7s, with a handful of 8s. Don’t expect to bang 10s if you aren’t 6’3 and stunningly handsome. Once you bang a few really hot chicks you realize they usually don’t have anything else to offer outside of that.

I don't even want a 10

but I want a very very high quality 7-8/10... by that I mean

cute without makeup
dark middle eastern/spanish features so they age great
smart
decent job
no kids
into fitness
some level of curves
decent with finances



I have to start dating around because I'm so particular that it might take me going out with 50 women to find 1 I want to settle down with

 

[EyeBRollin]

I don't even want a 10

but I want a very very high quality 7-8/10... by that I mean

cute without makeup
dark middle eastern/spanish features so they age great
smart
decent job
no kids
into fitness
some level of curves
decent with finances



I have to start dating around because I'm so particular that it might take me going out with 50 women to find 1 I want to settle down with

It may take closer to a hundred, so you have to go out and get at least 100 dates. Enjoy!

Also, your list isn't unreasonable but somethings you have to be willing to compromise on. If she's smart but doesn't have a decent job, you can likely help her along with that over time. Same with being into fitness. Decent with finances is one of those important things she either has or doesn't has, which really comes down to how she was raised and how much self-control she has.

Just an example, my current girlfriend is perfect in everything except the fitness. She was a bit overweight when I met her, but I went along with it because everything else was on point (cute face, amazing job, personality, owns a house, nice car, etc) and she had a good attitude when I took her on action dates, and even asked me to teach her how to get fit. 6 months later, she's lost 25 lbs and works out consistently. Not saying every woman can correct their flaws, but if she has high interest level and a good attitude you can pretty much get her to do anything.

 

[Reykhel]

but if she has high interest level and a good attitude you can pretty much get her to do anything.

Healthy perspective.

 

[EyeBRollin]

We focus a lot on looks but truth is most people aren't ugly. They just need better fashion and / or to get fit.

 

[Reykhel]

We focus a lot on looks but truth is most people aren't ugly. They just need better fashion and / or to get fit.

You're right and I would bet a kidney that you are enjoying yourself/life.

"acres of diamonds" springs to mind.