How the decline in casual dinning parallels a man’s struggles in modern dating

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Yes, your dry spell and frustration with women is similar to why Red Lobster filed bankruptcy. How so?

Pricing/Girls higher purchasing power- If customers want a good steak, why would they spend the money on Chilis or Longhorn? In comparison, women can get a 8/10 or higher, why should they settle for some guy lower than that?

Changing Atmosphere- Customers are rejecting casual restaurants for more fast casual restaurants or other atmospheres for custom catered experiences. In comparison, women are rejecting the average guy for guys that offer more fun experiences, resources, or emotional tingles. In addition, it doesn’t take that much effort to Google search the best mom and pop restaurant in an area vs a woman has access to high value men through OLD and social media.

Decreased Value in the newer market- Microwaved food is not something a customer will be willing to buy in today’s market. In comparison, the average man offers nothing of value to women outside a penis and provide and protect at best. In addition, casual dinning franchises are everywhere and over saturated just like the average male in the dating market. Why would a woman stick with “you” when she can easily find another “you” the next day?

Poor leadership- Franchise corporations are led by shareholders that are more than likely out of touch with common reality. In comparison, the average man receives terrible dating advice from society and the internet that puts him in a trap hole or deadlock at best.

Health & Diet Concerns- Customers are more concerned about their health and food quality compared to previous customers. In comparison, the early boomer and previous generations of men destroyed the reputation of the traditional average men. Women hated being stuck in a house with no freedom with a guy that failed his traditional duties and resorted to cheating, alcoholism, and physical abuse. In addition, government assistance and civil rights has made it easier for women to make their ultimate choice of not settling for the average man if all else fails. The fvck as many Chads/have fun in her youth and settle down for Beta Bob afterwards is not as common as the Red Pill projects.
 

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Yes, your dry spell and frustration with women is similar to why Red Lobster filed bankruptcy. How so?
Too much all you can eat shrimp?

Having a shrimp for a pee pee and being willing to give it away to anybody with a pulse is an unattractively scarce mindset.
 

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How can this be true statement when you wrote this next?
Note, I’m typing this from my phone, so everything has been limited and made more concise. The first part highlights that women can easily shoot above their smv, so there’s no reason to for them to settle with a guy within or below their smv.
 

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I thought this was a thread saying how less people are dining in restaurants because there are more hook-ups with "chads" and less dates with average looking guys who tend to supplicate and woo women by taking them to fancy restaurants leading to bankrupcies. Then I saw you are comparing apples to oranges. The economy is doing terrible. When people with full-time jobs do not have security of shelter or food then of course restaurants are going to go under.
 

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The biggest problem I see with today's crop of 20-30yo men doesn't have anything to do with the government, boomers, or mediocre restaurants that greedy bastards run.

As you said, "the average man offers nothing of value to women outside a penis and provide and protect at best.

An average guy can't expect the results of someone that is above average. Just how it is. Work on improving your situation if you don't like it. This forum will teach you everything you need to know to be above average. It just won't do the work for you.
 

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Red Lobster analogies. Most guys will do anything but approach.
The decision to approach or not has little to do with the current state of the sexual marketplace

If you're not approaching, you're coping, rationalizing, and externalizing.
Or maybe it's a waste of time? Why approach when you can get 5+ numbers a week on OLD or IG
 

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Is it weird that I'm repulsed by 'sexual market'?
 

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Oh okay, so you're gonna live your life based on women's feedback... pathetic hahahaha
Nah some women will be all about what you are selling, others will turn their nose up at it. They ultimately are the ones who decide. Some are impressed by big muscles, others aren't.

Don't confuse feedback with her perception of you.
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Nah some women will be all about what you are selling, others will turn their nose up at it. They ultimately are the ones who decide. Some are impressed by big muscles, others aren't.

Don't confuse feedback with her perception of you.
This can be merged with the badboy maxxing thread.

If you're selling brooms but your costumers want vaccuum cleaners whatcha gonna do? Exactly, switch up the product.

The gym, the car, the tattoo ect are all things that can kill two birds with one stone; because even when a man 100 sincerely does this for himself it will STILL attract women.

Like a woman doing squats daily with a apple shaped azz will attract men. Even when she goes to the gym mandatory because off I dont know, her therapist.
 

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But getting ripped increase confidence in knowing that physique wise you're better than 90% of men out there? Fvck yes
Still, you're hanging up your confidence in impressing women with your physique, measuring yourself against other men. While it sounds great that a woman considers you aesthetically more pleasing than other men, if that aesthetic is your main 'selling point' in the 'sexual marketplace', there will always be someone with a more pleasing aesthetic.

I prefer to measure myself only against my 'former self' in order to see how I progress, but never against other men.
 

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They do it for men. And it will attract a lot of them. But their really doing it to capture the interest of the best men.
Yeah, but somehow on a seduction forum men shame each other for reasoning the same.

A man might wanna max out as much facets as possible to attract the best women. I don't understand whats wrong about this.
 

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Changing Atmosphere- Customers are rejecting casual restaurants for more fast casual restaurants or other atmospheres for custom catered experiences. In comparison, women are rejecting the average guy for guys that offer more fun experiences, resources, or emotional tingles. In addition, it doesn’t take that much effort to Google search the best mom and pop restaurant in an area vs a woman has access to high value men through OLD and social media.

Decreased Value in the newer market- Microwaved food is not something a customer will be willing to buy in today’s market. In comparison, the average man offers nothing of value to women outside a penis and provide and protect at best. In addition, casual dinning franchises are everywhere and over saturated just like the average male in the dating market. Why would a woman stick with “you” when she can easily find another “you” the next day?
The decline in casual dining is related to the changes in the sexual marketplace.

Think about the majority of casual dining chains. Most were founded in the 1960s-1980s and appealed to the market of young adult Boomers who got married earlier in life despite the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s-1970s. Boomers were still getting married at 23-25 after a few sexual partners, unlike previous generations who were more likely not to have any sex before marriage. These casual dining chains were appealing to Boomers when they were having their families with Millennial children in the 1980s-1990s. From 2000 and beyond, these chains lost their way as Boomers aged into Empty Nesters. Millennial adults in the 2000s-present haven't found casual dining as appealing as their predecessors.

Casual dining chains are oversatured now, similar to beta males. Beta males were still acceptable in the Boomer era. In today's sexual marketplace, the beta male Millennial is struggling to find a place and is experiencing increased sexlessness. Gen Z/Zoomers are also experiencing this.

I agree that Google searches have hurt casual dining as it now easier to find more unique dining experiences.

Poor leadership- Franchise corporations are led by shareholders that are more than likely out of touch with common reality. In comparison, the average man receives terrible dating advice from society and the internet that puts him in a trap hole or deadlock at best.
Almost all the chains have had poor leadership. The challenges and changes in the market have made strong leadership and adaptability more important. There are very few leaders who could have dealt with these changes.

Conventional and blue pill dating advice for men has not helped men for a few decades now.

In comparison, the early boomer and previous generations of men destroyed the reputation of the traditional average men. Women hated being stuck in a house with no freedom with a guy that failed his traditional duties and resorted to cheating, alcoholism, and physical abuse.
What you describe was not as common among Boomer men as the Silent Generation (late 1920s-1945), GI Generation (1910s-early 1920s births), and generations before the GI Generation. Fewer Boomer women were stay-at-home mom wives who were dependent upon men. With that said, Generation X and Millennial women have become more independent than Boomer women were, especially Millennial women.

Women entering the workplace is a major factor in what killed the daytime television soap opera. A lot of daytime TV soap operas started airing in the 1950s-1970s and aired for decades until most were cancelled in the 2000s-2010s.

The fvck as many Chads/have fun in her youth and settle down for Beta Bob afterwards is not as common as the Red Pill projects.
Millennial women have been very independent and that's something likely to continue as Gen Z gets further into adulthood. The idea of settling for a Millennial women isn't very appealing. The Millennial woman in the video below acknowledges this. Feminists have been telling women to "Never Settle" since the 1960s and that message finally got ingrained as Millennial women entered adulthood.


More and more Millennial women have enough education and training to be financially independent. Their economic livelihood is not dependent on a man. Part of the reasons beta males in the past had a place in the sexual marketplace is that women needed a basic provider male. Women don't need that man anymore and many would rather stay alone than with a boring beta male.
 
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