How much do looks matter

[Hamurabimbi]

But here is the problem: A lot of average guys will just give up, thinking that they have no chance since they did not win the looks lottery. The fact is is they work hard, gym, diet, clothes, grooming etc they can go from a 5 to a 7. Then if their game is on point they can get 8's and maybe the 8.5 fairly regularly. A 3 can become a 5 and pull 7's.

Mindset is still very important for success. My best friend is completely bald and hitting his late 50's. He shaves his head and grew a tight small beard (kind of looks like Walter White). He is also a gym rat and BJJ black belt. He dresses extremely fashionably. He opens lots of women at the club...gets shot down a lot but he also has a good amount of success w/ decent looking women in their late 30's and 40's. His girlfriend...still quite attractive at 50 is madly in love with him and will do anything for him.

I don’t disagree with anything you said. Spot on.

 

[zekko]

According to Plato/Socrates, 10 don't exist in the real world, LOL.

I guess I'm in good company then. I like blond hair, brunette, black is nice. I really like red, partly because it's fairly rare. s

You mentioned Asian women. I've seen a study that showed that men of all races preferred Asian women. I haven't seen another study that replicated those results, but I could believe them. Asian women look extremely feminine. Generally speaking, of course.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

The average woman has more sex appeal than the average man.

They are the sexual choosers and men have higher libidos and most have have to take what they can get.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

I guess I'm in good company then. I like blond hair, brunette, black is nice. I really like red, partly because it's fairly rare. s

You mentioned Asian women. I've seen a study that showed that men of all races preferred Asian women. I haven't seen another study that replicated those results, but I could believe them. Asian women look extremely feminine. Generally speaking, of course.

I heard that Captain Kirk was into Asian women.

 

[CornbreadFed]

But here is the problem: A lot of average guys will just give up, thinking that they have no chance since they did not win the looks lottery. The fact is is they work hard, gym, diet, clothes, grooming etc they can go from a 5 to a 7. Then if their game is on point they can get 8's and maybe the 8.5 fairly regularly. A 3 can become a 5 and pull 7's.

fricking preach!!! Unless the guy has obvious physical deformities, every guy can potentially be a 7-8. I can’t believe there’s guys that disagree with this concept.

 

[zekko]

I heard that Captain Kirk was into Asian women.

And green women.

 

[Plinco]

I've said it already. Your emotional state has a huge effect on the way you look. Some people call a good emotional state (inner) game, and that's why they claim that game>looks. Really it should be: emotional state --> looks --> emotional state.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

fricking preach!!! Unless the guy has obvious physical deformities, every guy can potentially be a 7-8. I can’t believe there’s guys that disagree with this concept.

Yes!!! There is so much a guy can do to improve his appearance. From there his personality (game) can do even more.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

This is the wrong way to ask the question. It is not a numerical "How Much?". It's not that a good looking guy will get X more women than an average guy (he will). But. In reality, a good looking guy lives in a totally different world than an average guy. A good looking guy will have experiences that an average guy will have trouble even comprehending.

As an example, I'm a good looking guy. When I got a promotion, one of the employees, who was an actual model, hopped on my desk, stuck her a$$ in the air and said: 'do you need a sexratary?".

As another example, I linked up with a desert hiking group in SoCal. One of the participants was a 21 LVU y.o. student. Long story short. Without even knowing me, she hooked up with me in a motel in BFE within an hour of meeting me. We didn't do too much hiking.

I was a at a bar in the Marina in SF. As I was walking by, two girls called out: 'Come over here and talk to us!"

I could go on for days with stories.

The downside is, I'm not a very good BF nor a very good employee. I just get treated well because I'm decent looking.

post pic of yourself

 

[Hamurabimbi]

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