How much do looks matter

Hamurabimbi

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It undoubtedly does.

That being said, my case is mild enough that I'd have a lot more luck if (as you insisted) a woman will pounce on a man with good looks no matter how clueless or dorky he is.

The vast majority of the outside world (male or female) likely doesn't have even the slightest inkling I'm an autist.
As a decent looking guy, I’ve found women will, on occasion, approach. They know nothing about me or my psychology.
 

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I visited my old social circle and there’s this one guy that always seemed “off”, but I assumed he was just in the closet and just being weird to compensate. Last time I went and his condition has clearly gotten worse and you can tell he is on the spectrum and needs to go see someone about it. In addition, he hasn’t gotten laid since 2017 allegedly and I wouldn’t be shocked if he was an actual virgin. I am only on his case because he was posting some Red pill stuff which I do not think helps his case at all.
I never thought my ASD could play a role in why I get mistaken for gay.

After reading your post about the guy in your social circle, however, perhaps the fact I'm "off" is part of the reason I get mistaken for gay.

gymcels are a thing for a reason. Dudes care more about muscles than women. Ugly face means ugly children to women.
In that case, being alpha might have been why these ugly muscular dudes I used to work with managed to nail female customers.

Even if a woman is biologically programmed to be turned off by an ugly dude, being alpha can make her overlook his ugliness.

I'd probably agree with you, tbh. Off the top of my head I was thinking 35ish, but yeah, even 30 feels like it makes sense

I see so many stunning, perfect looking 18 year olds girls banging literal sticks of a 'man', but they're typically facially very good looking and usually tall.

I feel like the 'muscles = older women wanting you but young girls not being interested' is something I noticed when I was really young, tbh after watching programs like 'Ibiza uncovered' which was kind of 'reality TV' back when it was actually REAL! Pre social media and smart phone etc.
If young girls don't really put much emphasis on muscles, why is it, then, that college athletes get easy cooch from young college girls?

True. She has strengths you do not have. But she has to have tremendous patience & understanding. Things that seem patently obvious to me he will miss. It can be maddening at times, but its how he's built & will not change to a great degree.
A neurotypical woman has strengths an autistic man doesn't have, correct.

Another reason I say a neurotypical woman is a better fit than an autistic woman for an autistic man: Based on online autism communities I've belonged to and/or lurked on, the vast majority of female autists are bigtime feminists. On the other hand, most autistic men on online autism communities (myself included) hate feminism.

Finding a neurotypical woman who hates feminism is a lot easier than finding an autistic woman who hates feminism.

All in all though, the patience thing you pointed out still presents a hurdle (which is why I typically don't get very far)
 

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Muscles on an unattractive guy is equivalent to putting big boobs on an ugly girl to men. The issue is that men get muscles and expect it work with women that care about other stuff. If they stuck to fitness girls and adopted that gym bro trainer personality then they would be much better off.
I'm into fitness females.

To you, what differentiates a fitness female from some vapid female who goes to her gym?

Your typical young taco tuesday girl club hopping every weekend, traveling to Europe to visit more feminine men does not care if a guy that she already saw as unattractive got muscles lol.
This goes back to my last question. A lot of females into trendy things like Taco Tuesday and the hottest nightlife venues in a city are also women who go to gyms and keep at least decent physiques.

Also, I don't understand your premise at the end of the sentence. It seems less applicable in big cities. It seems like a woman sees a man as unattractive, then over multiple months or even 1-2 years he puts on more muscle mass. Most interactions in big cities are fleeting and rarely do the same people see other again on a regular basis.
 
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