How does it FEEL knowing women don't care about YOU

[bukowski_merit]

Easy solution: be ready to swing branches with her.
It's all about the frame.

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If your frame is: I'm investing 100% into this woman and making it work. Oh man, i have to do everything to keep this girl. I have to keep her away from other men. I have to always have my game on. I have to keep her happy. Etc.

You'll ultimately be a mess if/when she decides you're no longer needed.

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If on the other hand your frame is: I have a relationship with the female sex (not one woman) that is continuous. If she branch swings - that's fine, i have others, or if i don't - i'll have no problem branch swinging with her. We had fun while it lasted.

I've slept with a lot of women, and might be a bit strange in my ability to feel passion for just about every woman i've been with (even a ONS.) It's a controlled passion though that i try not to give to just 1 woman. Meaning I make the relationship/interaction more important than the woman. So that if my relations with one particular woman starts to go bad - i can bring in someone to replace her without losing a moment of sleep (this is easy in theory, but i sometimes find myself remembering a few in particular.)

This really solves most issues.

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There's always going to be a guy out there:

with more money
who's better looking
with a bigger d!ck
who's better in bed
who has better game
who makes her more happy

She just hasn't found him yet, or he just doesn't want her (i absolutely know that there's women out there who want me, but i don't want them; women who'd leave the man they're with right now if i called them up and said i wanted to date them. 100% certain of this.)

But it's pretty useless to get hung up over that. In fact, it's pretty damn unhealthy.

 

[zorg198]

I'm over the point i give a d@amn what women think or feel about me. I started to focus on myself , make myself better and do the stuff I like and hang out with my friends. There were times I will go out just to try and meet girls! f@ck them! i don't even think about it anymore...

 

[GotED?]

You are dealing with the wrong type of woman. Acknowledge that these types of women will NEVER be happy. NOTHING will ever be satisfied.
Sex to me served as a power emotional connection to someone I loved. I found my wife more attractive the further we got into our relationship based on the almost spiritual connection I had to her during sex. Sex to her was something to just check off the list of things to do for your husband because you are married to him. (And don't tell me I was a lousy lay, one old girlfriend that I still talk to still mentions our great sex lol).

The truly hot girls are never that grounded. I can't think of a single one. Most are emotional trainwrecks completely detached from empathy, real emotions, and love languages...and they never change. Never think you can get HB9-10, to behave like a 5, no matter well you game them. Nothing can penetrate an already damaged core.

This is the true stuff learned from experiences, I respect the author of this post - you don't know this sh!t unless you had suffered tremendously through it.

Though some of the stuff I highlighted in red above would bring out a round of 'AFC-ness' accusation, I feel the same way sometimes and would never put another man down for being a true human being (and a man) who is in touch with his feelings and cares/loves another. It is not caring/feeling that is the issue here, it is the CHOICE of the woman we pick that results in a life of hell on earth.

Heed these wisdom - a damaged woman is done. Don't chase hot-ness, those have been there and done it, know what is NOT there at the end of the rainbow and will laugh at all the other men on here constantly bragging about landing the HB7+.

Good luck.

Exodus

 

[PlayHer Man]

women dont care about your tough guy internet acts. you will ONLY be a brach swing away to the better man IF she even decides to bother grasping at the flimsy twig you THINK is good enough.

Who cares about all this sh!t if your only gold is to use them as sex toys anyway? :crackup: :crackup:

Women have "options" when they are young and attractive. After that they get desperate and will take almost any trash. How many choices does a 60 year old single woman have?

OP you lack perspective. You are saying a gun needs a bullet more than a bullet needs a gun.

Your logic is false. Try again.

 

[GotED?]

I don't know why this thread is here, if a woman doesn't care about you, you just NEXT her.

Simple - b!tches are everywhere, but so are good women.

Most likely you are still inexperienced/low self-esteemed, needing to prove yourself by hanging on to a hottie HB7+ that reinforces who you are and those kind of women typically are self-entitled H0s who can care less about you.

 

[zorg198]

I don't know why this thread is here, if a woman doesn't care about you, you just NEXT her.

Simple - b!tches are everywhere, but so are good women.

Most likely you are still inexperienced/low self-esteemed, needing to prove yourself by hanging on to a hottie HB7+ that reinforces who you are and those kind of women typically are self-entitled H0s who can't care less about you.

:rockon:

 

[Bumsniff]

Who cares about all this sh!t if your only gold is to use them as sex toys anyway? :crackup: :crackup:

Women have "options" when they are young and attractive. After that they get desperate and will take almost any trash. How many choices does a 60 year old single woman have?

OP you lack perspective. You are saying a gun needs a bullet more than a bullet needs a gun.

Your logic is false. Try again.

YOU offer ZERO substance or value. Which is why you KNOW women will find better than you so you use your LAME fools gold as a band aid to cover your sorely lacking qualities. Deep down you know you're WORTHLESS. Women can and WILL get better men than you. And there isn't a damn thing you can do about it playherman.

 

[Mike32ct]

What men value and what women value is different.

I have a good job. I'm fiercely loyal. I have an IQ of 135ish so I'm no dummy. I'm handy around the house. I'm learning dance. But women don't care about any of this. As far as my looks, I'm considered handsome to some older women. Young ones not so much.

They just want tall, more hair, tan, and tattoos. That's fine. That's their preference.

No doubt, there is a mismatch. But I don't control that.

I live in the north which is constant status competition pissing match as Floyd mentioned in many posts. I don't participate in it anymore. I just live my life my way.

 

[JoeMarron]

I don't understand the purpose of this post. OP are you advocating celibacy?

 

[PlayHer Man]

YOU offer ZERO substance or value. Which is why you KNOW women will find better than you so you use your LAME fools gold as a band aid to cover your sorely lacking qualities. Deep down you know you're WORTHLESS. Women can and WILL get better men than you. And there isn't a damn thing you can do about it playherman.

Stop projecting and get medicated bro.

Can't be a DJ if you're an emo faggot. :crackup: :crackup:

 

[Mike32ct]

Yup. I realized this as early as middle school when the guys that started dressing like girls, styling their hair and listening to and watching chick-media were getting all the pvssy lol. Still never bothered changing. Not to mention later when the bad boy/nice guy dichotomy becomes so pronounced. I'll go as far to say that women value evil while men value good.

Very true. Men don't send love letters to serial killers.

 

[Bumsniff]

Stop projecting and get medicated bro.

Can't be a DJ if you're an emo faggot. :crackup: :crackup:

FACT: The BETTERMAN will ALWAYS>>>>>Playherman :yes: :yes: :yes:

 

[floydb25]

First, good points by expos and Exodus. Agreed... You definitely attract what you project. If you look like a pretty boy player or act like a bad boy and flaunt the goods - that's what you're going to attract. I attracted nothing but shallow skanks, high maintenance *****es, losers, etc, as a result of who they thought I was. Ended up getting caught way deep into the fake / dysfunctional / troubled crowd - without even realizing that these were all bad people.

That's why a lot of these hot girls love bad boys... They're toxic. But moreso the "sexy" ones. Like the Transformer's girl kind of naughty / bad / wild... except worse in personality. You know who they are.

What men value and what women value is different.

I have a good job. I'm fiercely loyal. I have an IQ of 135ish so I'm no dummy. I'm handy around the house. I'm learning dance. But women don't care about any of this. As far as my looks, I'm considered handsome to some older women. Young ones not so much.

They just want tall, more hair, tan, and tattoos. That's fine. That's their preference.

No doubt, there is a mismatch. But I don't control that.

I live in the north which is constant status competition pissing match as Floyd mentioned in many posts. I don't participate in it anymore. I just live my life my way.

Yea... they don't care about that stuff at all. I still don't think social status is very important, though. You can be a loner, and do very well. Most girls prefer 1 on 1 time. But you do need good social and conversational skills in general, and as it relates to them. As well as a solid appearance, confidence, witty humor, etc. You don't need to be Mr. Popular, or get all up in everyone's ****. Most people are fake, competitive, gossipy, back-stabbing, etc. They always tried to make me look bad, competed against me, sabotaged, gave me crap advice, told the world my problems and weaknesses, etc. Screw 'em. They hurt more than help. People especially hate and compete when women are involved, and you're attracting them, and they're not.

Never once did anything matter other than me and the girl. You don't need a big crowd, and they certainly won't be rooting for you. But they will judge, ****block, sabotage, etc. The more people that are involved - the more problems arise. The more you tell them - the more they use against you. Women are also more likely to approach if you're alone.

So yea, going solo is the best. Don't make buddies with everyone, and think it'll help your chances with women. There's a lot of ego, jealousy, fakery, and selfish *******s out there. Most people don't want to see you succeed, or rise above them.

Most of my lingering resentment isn't from women failures, but all the *******s talking **** and making me feel like a nobody as a result. And prior - when they didn't want to see me get what they couldn't. And everywhere inbetween. Even though they couldn't attract **** themselves. Makes 'em feel better. ****suckers. :box:

But reality isn't what they say. Don't tell 'em ****, and just do you.

 

[49au]

The title of this thread is hilarious, and pathetic.

If women didn't have vaginas, if they couldn't serve as incubators for our genes, would this forum even exist? The answer is no.

The answer is that if it weren't for pvssy - the one thing we really want from women that we can't get from ourselves and/or male friends - we would barely even acknowledge women.

Yet, so many guys find it so troubling that women really want us for a certain thing? Is it truly that hard to swallow?

Imagine, a world in which simply having a penis means that women flock to you, without the need for you to do any work or create any value for anyone. The mere fact that you (and only ~3 billion others) have nuts means that women serve at your beck and call.

 

[May_Day]

As long as you bang them once, who cares.

 

[bukowski_merit]

I still don't think social status is very important, though. You can be a loner, and do very well. Most girls prefer 1 on 1 time. But you do need good social and conversational skills in general, and as it relates to them. As well as a solid appearance, confidence, witty humor, etc. You don't need to be Mr. Popular, or get all up in everyone's ****.

I agree with this...

Social status barely matters at all if it's just a mostly sexual relationship. It can matter more if it's an actual relationship, but still not as much as some people claim.... As with just about everything that gets thrown around here as being the "king" thing that gets you women - it CAN help things though. But isn't essential AT ALL... In fact the only thing that i believe is absolutely essential is meeting the woman's baseline criteria for looks (which is not as high for most women as guys think).

 

[Zion]

Yeah. Women will always be a branch away from a better male.

And you will always be a branch away from a better female.


Improvise. Adapt. Overcome. Survival of the fittest.

 

[49au]

Social status barely matters at all if it's just a mostly sexual relationship. It can matter more if it's an actual relationship, but still not as much as some people claim....

Agree with the first statement, strongly disagree with the second.

All women really care about is other women. Their competition, and their metrics for success, are all based on the women in their social circles.

If you are a plumber and all her friends are married to doctors, you better have some super tight game.

Maybe dumb 21yo girls don't think like this, since it's kind of hard to have significant "life" status as a 21yo guy (the best you can hope for is social status at this age).

But when you start getting older, and start trying to snag hot women for more than just a sexual relationship, it matters. Big time.

What do you think women sit around and talk about when they compare men? Just sex?

Women want RESOURCES. Money is a resource, just like a large circle of friends, and useful connections in the professional world. She knows that a man who can shell out cash, pull strings, and call in favors, has a much better chance of taking care of both her and her children long term.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Agree with the first statement, strongly disagree with the second.

All women really care about is other women. Their competition, and their metrics for success, are all based on the women in their social circles.

If you are a plumber and all her friends are married to doctors, you better have some super tight game.

Maybe dumb 21yo girls don't think like this, since it's kind of hard to have significant "life" status as a 21yo guy (the best you can hope for is social status at this age).

But when you start getting older, and start trying to snag hot women for more than just a sexual relationship, it matters. Big time.

What do you think women sit around and talk about when they compare men? Just sex?

Women want RESOURCES. Money is a resource, just like a large circle of friends, and useful connections in the professional world. She knows that a man who can shell out cash, pull strings, and call in favors, has a much better chance of taking care of both her and her children long term.

A man should be the best man he can be for HIMSELF. Achieving success and status should have more motivation behind it than simply attracting women. After all, no matter how high you fly there will be another man flying higher.

Men often focus on the fact that every woman wants Bradly Cooper.. however they ignore the fact that Bradly Cooper does not want every woman and only so many Bradly Cooper's exist in the world. Most women will be used as f*ck toys by men like Bradly Cooper.

There are more physically attractive women in the world than rich men number wise. So guess what? Not every woman will get a "prize". It doesn't matter if she WANTS it.. all that matters is her ability to get it. Most women will end up with normal AFC's. YES.. even the hot ones. I see it all the time.

Just being a DJ alone puts you ahead of most men.

 

[49au]

I absolutely agree that a man should achieve success on his own terms, for his own reasons, through his own methods.

Also, strongly agree that supply/demand is a sexual marketplace dynamic that a lot of guys seem to overlook.

Even if I was dating a hot woman and she thought she could fvck Bradley Cooper, she would know he'd never commit to her, so she may actually suppress her hypergamous instincts based on simple cost/benefit analysis:

If I fuk this higher status male, the male I'm with right now will leave me. Bradley Cooper won't take me either, and then I'll be alone. So I will not fuk him.

That said - I am not motivated to success because success will give me a woman. It's what a woman will give me, that underlies everything else. A son, and hopefully a good one.

Otherwise, I'd just pay for prostitutes or bang whatever random girls I could. I wouldn't care about building status or wealth.

To me personally, the end game is high quality offspring. That's it. Even the status and wealth, is only a tool I can use to enhance the prospects of my child(ren).