First night lay, last night.
There was actually quite a bit of texting since Wednesday. On Friday I cancelled the Sunday afternoon date (because work came up for me Sunday day-time) and proposed ice cream and movies Sunday night. She was on board. This was a good indicator for me as it showed strong interest still when I thought it might be waning (making me want to nuke the date altogether) (and, hence the flaking concern).
Yesterday, there was some manoeuvring over text in the lead up to the date as she was expressing a lot of nerves.
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Then she ended up being late as hell. I tactically messaged before I Ubered from my place into town (as flake insurance), and she said "no. wait. I'm not ready yet.". She was messaging that she had tried on 7 different outfits, whether she should wear makeup, warning me that she was going to wear glasses etc.
She also messaged me twice that she was naked, which communicated to me that she was horny.
I waited at my place until 30 minutes after our supposed meet-up time, and I was getting a little close to calling it, as I didn't want to be travelling in and out of town late. She eventually goes "I'm ready. I don't want to go to the centre." So I invited her to the mall right by my place where we would have dining and movie options. She ubered straight over.
This was a big W in my mind as it saved me ubering into town.
I wasn't disappointed when I saw her but she wasn't quite as cute as her pictures. I would be a little surprised if she was actually 23.
I wanted to eat, she wasn't hungry. So we sat in Taco Bell. I ate 2 tacos, and we chatted.
She quizzed me, and I was like 'bring it on'.
First question was "
what are you looking for?". I literally tried to remember verbatim
@Dr.Suave 's suggestion like I was sitting a fvcking exam. I said "I'm not looking for anything but if I meet the right person maybe something special can happen."
She comes with second question "
you're 28 years old?", and I lied right to her face and said yes. (Later in the conversation she goes you look way younger than 28! I literally said "wow. really? I haven't heard that in a while." And she insisted...)
She was very tactile in Taco Bell. I suggested ice cream. And she just straight up goes "can we go to your place?". I was like "eh... yeah... I guess...". At the point in my head I'm thinking: this girl wants some pipe badly.
At my place we listened to music and danced. I moved in for the kiss. She goes "don't try to kiss me. That's the second time you tried. Don't ever try to kiss me. You don't kiss me. I kiss you." I go "do you want to kiss me?" and she started kissing me. She then pulls back and says she has to go home and she doesn't want anything to happen on the first date. And I'm super chill. (I have just recovered from a virus and wasn't in the mood to fvck anyway.)
I reminded her a few minutes later that she was going to leave and asked her was she ready. And she goes "oh... you want me to leave?". Then we started kissing, she climbed on, stripped off, etc. etc.
The sex was good. She was clearly experienced! And the impression I had all along ("I'm so nervous" , "I don't have a lot of experience with date") was, well, the opposite.
Her body was great. My previous two lays were overweight, so it was great to be with a woman with a good body.
Her loony side came out again after: "why didn't you add my on insta?", "oh my god, you have a wife.", "why are you lying?", "you are so fake", "I hate you". Then downstairs as we were waiting for her Uber, she goes "by the way, I keep saying that I hate you because I liked spending time with you so much."
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@Stoic I guess I learned...
- a little more about the hamster wheel and how we can stimulate it by being playful with the sh1t test questions such as "what are you looking for?".
- I had also been recently watching a bunch of a pick up guy called Diego Day and he is actually complimentary towards women and lays it on with the romantic side and references like that. And that made me realise that there is a place for that in seduction: telling a woman she's beautiful, complimenting her eyes etc.
- the manosphere is too binary about texting before the date. If she keeps texting you, she's probably interested, and if you ignore her, she'll probably get turned off. There's a balance with it. Be tactful with delayed responses, but if you haven't met her yet in person, then you need to engage with her and make her comfortable in the lead up to the first date
