Ihateinitiatingalot7 said:
so women are not as attracted to looks, physical appearences, do not value it as much?
No, its equal, and both genders are treated the same based on their looks. If a girl is cute, fit, and takes care of her appearance - guys will give her a chance. Same with women. People like good bodies and a presentable appearance. So, just by working out, getting some nice clothes, etc, you're already improving your chances greatly. You don't have to be hot, or you won't get any dates, ever. But your chances are even greater yet.
The scale works both ways for each gender. The hotter you are - the more appealing you are. But, you can still work on other things, and still be attractive. It's not hot or nothing. Nor is there no value on looks. Or less for them, and more for us.
Women are just as shallow as men. Men just admit it. But, men will give a cute girl a chance. They don't all need a barbie. This is just another stereotype. Possibly to make us look more shallow than them. Our standards are pretty much the same. They choose hot guys first - just as we choose hot girls first. But, just as they look for more - so do we. Just as we put up with too much BS from hot girls, and try to tame them, or get them to commit, or make up excuses for them - so do they. We get crushes, and so do they. It's all the same. Don't believe when women or dating guru's tell you otherwise. We ALL go for looks first, but the person doesn't have to be hot or gorgeous. It just makes them that more appealing to us. There are also other traits we look for - typically as we age and mature.
When you see dating articles saying women don't put as much emphasis on looks as men do - this is common sense. But, it works both ways. What they mean is, they'll still give a guy a chance if he looks nice, takes care of himself, is social, interesting, fun, etc. No ****. So do we. It doesn't mean they don't care about looks, or that we're any different in our standards. Again, we don't all chase after barbie, nor do we all have one. Same goes for them. Not everyone is dating a hot person. We will all give an attractive girl a chance. It's not hot or nothing for either gender. This is probably just clever wording to get people lured into their marketing bull**** - by making you think looks don't matter, or that women are different in this respect. This is not the case. They just don't all go for (or can get) a hot guy, because there aren't enough to go around. Most dating advice you see is very basic - they just use clever wording to catch your eye, and make it seem like a big deal; something you could never figure out on your own. Like, having confidence. OMG.
It also depends largely on the type of person you're going after. Not everyone is shallow or obsessed with status. But, the higher in looks you go - the more shallow and superficial they tend to be. It's a double-edged sword, really. Hot people tend to want other hot people - until they realize they hate each other, and should drop their standards.
Mostly its the fake hot girls that are like this. The ones who wear too much make-up, are obsessed with appearance, talk in a very shallow manner, dress like skanks, act prissy and snobby, hang out with the popular girls, etc. They tend to be the most insecure and crazy, and need to fit in and be better than everyone else. The girls most guys on here go after, ***** about constantly, and generalize an entire gender over. Ah, good times... Good times. . :crackup: