My point is either be high value, or create the illusion of being high value.
I chose to be high value, which takes a lot more work and effort than learning a few tactics and gimmicks than just giving the illusion of being high value using cheap, manipulative tactics.
But actually being high value is far more rewarding, longer lasting and I don't encounter "B-Shields" "LMR" "ASD" "LJBF" or any of that other crap.
It does not exist in my reality.
Perhaps you don't understand this because you are too focused on trying to give the illusion of being high value, and you are running into women who are basically seeing thru the illusion and calling you out on it.
BTW, did you see the final few episodes of the Mystery reality show and how these guys "DHV'd?"
Talking about the Limo they rode over to the club, the pool party they are having tomorrow, inviting girls to the VIP lounge they had access to, etc...
I don't have a pool, a limo, or regular access to the VIP lounge, and neither do most guys.
But then again, I "DHV" with my actions, not my words or slipping in comments about limos and pools and VIP sections, so I don't need to manipulate women into thinking I have more value than I actually do.
I stand on my own, without using fake stories, gimmicks, tall tales of my ex-stripper g/f, although I actually did date a stripper once and it's nothing to brag about as a majority of these girls are screwed-up, high maintenance and lots of drama.
I DHV by approaching honestly, sincerely and without apology or without trying "fly under the radar"
I'll approach a HB9+ in the middle of 3 meatheads who look like they can benchpress Australia, without fear or hesitation.
That's how I DHV
My point is, let the girls discover on their own that you are high value instead of "telling" them you are high value thru gimmicks and manipulation and giving the illusion that you are. It will make your value that much higher.
Reminds me of when I had a 5th generation (C5) Corvette Convertible when they first came out and I would pick up a girl in it for a date and she would ask why I never told her that I had such a cool car.
What was more impressive, telling her about my Car, or letting her find out about it on her own?
Do you understand what I'm talking about now?
Let her discover, on her own, that you are high value instead of telling her that you are high value. It has much more impact that way, and it seems more natural and genuine and less like you are seeking validation.
And don't even get me started on "Negs"
"Negs" are for losers.
Real Men don't need to prove or talk about their value -
it is obvious to others that they already are high value, while those that aren't have to convince others that they are.
And this is why I don't run into the typical roadblocks like "LMR" "ASD" "B-Shields" "LJBF" and all those other things that so-called PUA's run into and must then use even more tactics and gimmicks (freeze outs for example) to try to get around those things as well.
No one is talking about "bragging" - the point is become a Man of high value instead of using gimmicks to give the impression that you are high value, or prove that you are high value, even if you are.
It comes off as seeking validation, which actually "DLV"
Same with "Peacocking" which screams "Try Hard"
Nothing wrong with dressing sharp, but dressing outrageously to attract attention makes you nothing more than a male attention hoe, and actually lowers your value.
danielzxc said:
Derek, you don't actually discuss or debate anything. You just keep repeating your assertions without addressing the issues people raise against them. Obviously, it's pointless talking to you if you insist on doing that.
But what if it's not obvious? You just accept that she failed to see your "obvious" value and move on? Of course the fkk not!
DHV-ing doesn't necessarily mean "bragging" about yourself so that her eyes light up and she is just, wow, so impressed by what a "high value" guy you turned out to be. Is this really what people understand "dhv-ing" to be?
I've always thought of it as portraying yourself in the best light; assuming that you have value, and intending that the girl clearly sees this. It doesn't necessarily even require saying anything in particular. It can just as well be demonstrated by the way you dress and the way you hold yourself. Sometimes that's not enough though, and so you want to direct the conversation in such a way that your value is more apparent; sometimes, it's enough that you just come across as "not intimidated" by her.
There's no fkking way in hell dhv-ing ever necessarily required bragging, or telling stories that involve, in a rather direct, obvious, "designed to impress" way, the expensive car you drive, or the "important" job that you do, or the wealthy part of town you live in. Those elements can be woven in, for sure, but demonstrating that you're not just some chump, but rather a guy that's worth her knowing, can also be done without any of this stuff.
At the end of the day, the concept of dhv was introduced because it works, not, as Derek would have us believe, because the "community" wanted to "brainwash" us. Lol. Grow up, Derek.
(Naturally, for some guys, dhv-ing is going to mean bragging and simply outright fkking lying, because, let's face it, not every does have "high value". But pick up is a cut-throat business, and lying, whether we like it or not, often works. So of course some guys are going to take the short cut and rather improve their lives so that they do have value, or repeat affirmations 1000 a day that "I am high value", they'll simply invent stories, or poach them from others, that give the impression of "high value".)
and turns back to her friends and ignores you.
