Have you also seen this pattern in interracial relationships?

[Good Gao]

Having lived in both America and Canada, I notice a trend in interracial relationships involving whites. Reason I single out white people is because they are the majority and most interracial relationships out there involve them.

When I meet interracial couples involving white males, there seems to be a variety. I have met a few white males who have dated black girls and even some who are with indian and persian girls (sometimes I can't tell the difference). White males with latinas and asian girls are equally common in my experience here in the states.

When I meet interracial couples that involve white females, there seems to be no variety. I have met and seen quite a few white girls that date or were with black guys (very common in Phili) but I rarely see them going for other minority groups. On very rare occasions I might meet a white girl with a latino, asian, or arabian looking guy but it is rare. Out of 10 white girls that go interracial, I would say 8 of them go for black men.

Have you also seen this pattern? If so then I would think that explains why there are so many asians in PUA.

 

[Stagger Lee]

No I have not seen this pattern. I mostly see white females dating every other race under the sun but especially black males, but relatively few white males dating outside their race.

 

[speed dawg]

They go for money. You won't see a single hot white female go for a black guy that doesn't have money. Unless they are some type of outcast (walmart fatties, daddy issues, etc.). I'm sure Gaylan can find an example of the exception to that rule, but it is what it is on the macro level.

Some may like the differing looks. I'd date/marry a black woman if she was attractive to me and fit all my other wanted characteristics. And a lot of these black guys who get white women as wives, it's not like that are ghetto thugs, you're talking about guys like Seal, Tiger Woods, etc. or some weird half breed like Lenny Kravitz. At the very least, respectable in some way. It ain't like they are Flava Flave.

When I say outcast, I include idiots like Kardashian and Miley Cyrus in that group.

 

[Good Gao]

They go for money. You won't see a single hot white female go for a black guy that doesn't have money. Unless they are some type of outcast (walmart fatties, daddy issues, etc.). I'm sure Gaylan can find an example of the exception to that rule, but it is what it is on the macro level.

Some may like the differing looks. I'd date/marry a black woman if she was attractive to me and fit all my other wanted characteristics. And a lot of these black guys who get white women as wives, it's not like that are ghetto thugs, you're talking about guys like Seal, Tiger Woods, etc. or some weird half breed like Lenny Kravitz.

When I say outcast, I include idiots like Kardashian and Miley Cyrus in that group.

You would be surprised about the kind of white girls that have black guy fetishes, sometimes they do not meet the stereotype at all. One I knew was a dark haired blue eyed chick in her mid 20s, wore glasses too which looked amazing on her, and had nice skin too. Bright too when you would talk to her but then one time I saw her at a club she was making out with this thuggish looking black guy (muscles and tattoo) who had long dreads.

 

[Good Gao]

No I have not seen this pattern. I mostly see white females dating every other race under the sun but especially black males, but relatively few white males dating outside their race.

I see white males dating interracial a lot more than white females for some reason. People say it isn't common to see white males with black females either but on some college campuses I have studied at, it existed in equal amounts as black guy with white females. As for white females dating every other race under the sun, I have to disagree there, I have only seen them date black guys at high rates. Not say I haven't seen them with latinos and asians but when that happens it is usually more of an outlier even in areas where interracial dating is popular.

 

[Jaylan]

Go to NYC or any other big city. Youll see ALL KINDS of interracial dating. I see a lot of variety there.

They go for money. You won't see a single hot white female go for a black guy that doesn't have money. Unless they are some type of outcast (walmart fatties, daddy issues, etc.). I'm sure Gaylan can find an example of the exception to that rule, but it is what it is on the macro level.

Some may like the differing looks. I'd date/marry a black woman if she was attractive to me and fit all my other wanted characteristics. And a lot of these black guys who get white women as wives, it's not like that are ghetto thugs, you're talking about guys like Seal, Tiger Woods, etc. or some weird half breed like Lenny Kravitz. At the very least, respectable in some way. It ain't like they are Flava Flave.

When I say outcast, I include idiots like Kardashian and Miley Cyrus in that group.

You wish buddy.

If a black guy is attractive, there are attractive white women out there who will date him. Ive seen it, and Ive experienced it, and Im not rich. Im just an average bloke who stays in shape, and stays on the right path. Im basically a day working educated dude who workouts, plays sports, and plays music in my spare time. Nothing supremely unique about me, and I get attractive women of all races.

Dudes like you need to open your eyes and stop zeroing in on the relationships that confirm your preconceived biases and beliefs. Go to any city with a decent population, and youll see tons of minority men dating attractive white women and non-white women.

The white dudes who constantly try and pretend that black men and other minority men are only getting outcast white females, are the type of white guys who cant stand it and make up excuses for why they see attractive white women with a non-white man. Its always some excuse like "Hes rich"..."hes a thug/badboy"..."shes trying to piss off her friends/family/society"..."shes just experimenting".

Its always something to minimize the reality that many attractive women are simply attracted to different kinds of men. Haters cant accept that people like different things and many people will click regardless of race. Dudes who sit and hate on the dating lives of others, are men who simply arent happy with their own dating life or feel inferior when compared to the men they are hating on. I dont really understand it. I dont focus negative energy on people's dating choices like that.

 

[Good Gao]

When I was staying in Chicago, it almost seemed like half of the white women there were with black guys. Ever single social circle you were a part of there was a white woman that was dating or married to a black man and these were not by any means low quality white girls. I saw Anne Hathaway and Scarlett Johansen types with black boyfriends who were well dressed and I saw these couples every single day of my life when I was there, it was the same way in Philly too. Seems like those two cities are practically havens for black men that want to date or marry attractive white women.

What I am saying is that you don't see this with white women and guys of other races. Even if you go to Los Angeles, you won't see that many Hispanic men with white women and when you go to San Francisco it will be difficult to find Asian men with white women. When I lived in Vancouver, it was practically unheard of to see white women dating any kind of asian (chinese and indians are the biggest groups there) while white guys with asian women were unheard of.

I am not saying couples out there involving white women with asian, hispanic, or arabian men don't exist but I am seeing that the extent to which black men have success with white women makes it clear why you don't see black men in PUA. Anyone that has been to Chicago can confirm, everday you will see decent looking white women with black men there. You won't see this with any other race of men and white women in the US or Canada.

 

[Jaylan]

^You must consider the fact that Chicago is not the melting pot places like NYC or Toronto are. Chicago can be diverse...but not in the way NYC or Toronto are. Those cities are considered international melting pots for a reason. Chicago is definitely not to the same extent. That's a big reason why most interracial couples you see there are black and white. If you go to NYC or Toronto...theres a huge variety of mix and match going on.

With regards to Vancouver and Asian men...you gotta realize not every city is the same. While I dont doubt you wont see Asian men with white women or non Asian women in Vancouver....its something that isnt uncommon in Toronto or NYC. In NYC Im refreshed by all the diversity and mix-matching I see compared to my suburban life.

Where I am in the burbs, theres less diversity. Everyone is either white american, black american, or hispanics of the typical NY variety (mexican, puerto rican or dominican). You definitely come across people a lot less with heritage outside of North America. Also more people do date within their race when compared to NYC, but there are interracial couples. Nothing unexpected though. Mostly white dudes with latinas...and black dudes with white women. Though you see other mixes. But since most people up here are either white, black, or latino...no mix is out of the ordinary gender wise imo.

 

[Good Gao]

I would say the same goes for Toronto, you don't see too many asian or indian men with white women there, I have seen some asian men with white women but it is rare. You do on the other hand see a lot of white men with asian women and surprisingly a lot of black men with white women (surprising due to the fact Toronto doesn't have a lot of black people compared to other races).

NYC is an outlier city because a lot of those interracial couples you are seeing are probably just tourists from other countries as opposed to being Americans. I don't think there is a variety in interracial relationships when they involve white women which I am understanding now. I don't surprisingly see that many latinos with white women though statistics say it is one of the most common kinds of couples around, maybe it is just white latinos that are dating white women but that isn't even interracial.

That said, I have a theory as to how this affects a guy's game and why Asian guys get into PUA.

Black men (this goes for white men too) see other black men with women of various races and know that their race isn't a setback so when you see black and white guys go into PUA, it isn't because of they feel their race is a limiting factor. Asian (and indian men too it seems) rarely see men of their races with other races of women and rarely with white women so they come into PUA feeling that their background is a limiting factor. I have chatted with and coached asian (and an arabian) guys who initially felt that their background was a limiting factor until they met the girl I was dating (who was a white girl) and felt that they could do it too.

 

[Jaylan]

OP, I grew up in NYC. No it isnt tourists that Im talking about. I am talking about residents of NYC and Americans that are in interracial couples.

whats your obsession with interracial dating?

im starting to believe what i read here by a poster who said it seems asians are the main posters to bring up race threads

This.

Listen OP,

I get that Asian (south and east asian) dudes are not the most sought after with regard to interracial dating. But its not something one should fixate one much. Just go after the women you find attractive, and dont let it get you down when you dont succeed. Life is what it is, and plenty of women wont be into you. But it wont matter once you find women who fancy you OP.

Dont think race is a setback only for Asian guys. Other guys have been there too. Im black and I had to deal with drama regarding my ex because she was iffy about us giving it a try (due to her ignorant mother). And there are plenty of other reasons out there why some women will be iffy about black men, or straight up not be interested in dating them at all.

Did I worry about how my race affected me in the past? Yes. Did I find it to be a really sucky feeling when I knew my ex liked me, but that skin color was keeping us apart? Yes. Back at that more inexperienced time in my life, I really had trouble dealing with that. Luckily my ex was open and honest with me about her feelings and concerns, and we got together anyways.

We eventually broke up and had typical relationship issues...but it helped me to grow. And later I went to university for two years and dated around a bit to build my confidence up. I understand race plays a role in dating...but my viewpoint is "If my race causes a woman to not wanna date me...fck her...thats her loss". Thats how you have to look at things like that. View yourself as the catch, as the prize and know other women would be happy to have you.

I know for a fact that there are women out there super attracted to me and who would love to have me as a boyfriend or as a screw. Like I said, focus on the women who say yes...not those who say no.

 

[speed dawg]

Its always something to minimize the reality that many attractive women are simply attracted to different kinds of men. Haters cant accept that people like different things and many people will click regardless of race. Dudes who sit and hate on the dating lives of others, are men who simply arent happy with their own dating life or feel inferior when compared to the men they are hating on. I dont really understand it. I dont focus negative energy on people's dating choices like that.

Typical. HATERZZZZ!!! Cry hater when somebody spits the truth. You didn't even read my post. If you did, it was with preconceived bias. And I was 100% right-on that you found the exception, not the rule.

 

[Jaylan]

Typical. HATERZZZZ!!! Cry hater when somebody spits the truth. You didn't even read my post. If you did, it was with preconceived bias. And I was 100% right-on that you found the exception, not the rule.

Whatever you say bro. Come to NYC and tell me about exceptions and rules. Like I said, plenty of attractive white women date outside their race. OP says he saw many examples of such in Chicago, and I see likewise in NY.

Just because you dislike the idea of it doesnt make them exceptions. Get over it and deal with it.

 

[Kailex]

I am currently spinning 4-5 plates. None of them are Hispanic. I'm Puerto Rican from Puerto Rico and not native to New Jersey.

I'm not the only person I know doing this.

To my knowledge, I've yet to be considered an interracial relationship. I'm just considered as being in a relationship.

 

[speed dawg]

I am currently spinning 4-5 plates. None of them are Hispanic. I'm Puerto Rican from Puerto Rico and not native to New Jersey.

I'm not the only person I know doing this.

To my knowledge, I've yet to be considered an interracial relationship. I'm just considered as being in a relationship.

Most groups assimilate well. Most. It's more status and culture than anything, that pairs people up.

 

[Fatal Jay]

One thing I notice

wealthy black men get the hottest of white girls

poor black men get the horrible white girls

middle class black men is either or


You never seen a beautiful rich white woman with a poor black man

 

[backbreaker]

This site is becoming more predicable than a 90's sitcom lol


1. Ambitious Player / Good Gao / Whatever thef uck the other version of the guy's name is comes in and finds a new slant / variation on how to talk about white women and their non preference for asians ( indians)


2. someone, generally skinnyguy lol, comes in and backs up claims with anecdotal evidence


3. speed dawg comes in with the "white power" Clayton Bigsby racial divide rant



4. Jalyan / Fatal Jay fall for the bait every last ****ing time lol, like the wile e coyote in those cartoons lol



5.... ????????



6. Thread gets locked down

 

[Bible_Belt]

Race issues are like a barometer of one's own level of overall social adjustment. If you can joke around about it, then you're doing well as far as social skills go. But if not, then that's most likely a symptom of your own problems.

 

[Jaylan]

One thing I notice

wealthy black men get the hottest of white girls

poor black men get the horrible white girls

middle class black men is either or


You never seen a beautiful rich white woman with a poor black man

Lol, do you see beautiful rich white women with poor anything? Lets be real here. People date within their income bracket, especially women.

This site is becoming more predicable than a 90's sitcom lol


1. Ambitious Player / Good Gao / Whatever thef uck the other version of the guy's name is comes in and finds a new slant / variation on how to talk about white women and their non preference for asians ( indians)


2. someone, generally skinnyguy lol, comes in and backs up claims with anecdotal evidence


3. speed dawg comes in with the "white power" Clayton Bigsby racial divide rant



4. Jalyan / Fatal Jay fall for the bait every last ****ing time lol, like the wile e coyote in those cartoons lol



5.... ????????



6. Thread gets locked down

Lmao. Spot on spot on. Loving the Dave Chappelle reference.

And yeah, I did fall for it. I didnt take the time to look at OPs posting history or join date. I legit assumed it was an honest question, and not a rehash of typical racial dating discussion. Yet low and behold, a few posts later, the thread steers towards interracial dating troubles faced by asian and indian men.

Ive been had.

Race issues are like a barometer of one's own level of overall social adjustment. If you can joke around about it, then you're doing well as far as social skills go. But if not, then that's most likely a symptom of your own problems.

I agree with this with regard to a lot things. Not just race, but also gender, sexual orientation, religion, political affiliation, etc etc. People should be able to joke about these things and it not be a big deal, so long as the jokes arent meant to be outright insults. It really all depends on the joke, and the level of familiarity the people involved have with one another.

Gotta find that happy middle. People dislike the over-the-top azzholes who simply make jokes as a way to disrespect and belittle others (basically using jokes to hide their prejudice). But people also dislike uptight sticks in the mud that cant handle any kind of funny banter.

 

[Good Gao]

Please look at my posting history, I have only referenced race where it needed to be referenced and not much outside of this thread. It has played a big role in my development from me initially failing in Vancouver to me facing issues for dating women of other races, I have added value in other domains when asked and I am not even Indian, when are Indian and Chinese the same thing? Though I understand Indian men to some extent fall victim to the same stereotypes East Asian men do (geeky and bad game), they are not the same group or even seen in the same way. In Vancouver, Indians are seen as more lower class and blue collar opposed to East Asians. I also said anyone that isn't black or white faces some barriers when it comes to getting white girls too.

I remember backbreaker from my locations thread, he was the first one to actually bring up race and being a minority, why is he the angry one here?

That said, race has played a vital role in my development in both good and bad ways and I don't see why we can't talk about it at times. The proof is in front of you with Asian men being overrepresented in PUA to interracial dating patterns. I do think this warrants some kind of a discussion and for me, changing locations has both worked for and against me.

As for this thread, I posted it to point out how interracial dating patterns and the over-representation of Asian men in PUA presents an issue we should keep in mind if we want to help men of those backgrounds.

 

[Good Gao]

To anyone that is still interested in discussing this, I wanted to throw in more on this trend.

1. I see White guys dating interracial a lot, not only with asian and latin women but also black and indian women. In Canada it is becoming increasingly common to see Indian girls with white boyfriends and black girls with white guys is becoming more common everywhere, a lot of the sexiest black women in Hollywood are dated or have dated white guys.

2. I see minorities dating each other a lot more often, black guys with asian and latina girls is becoming increasingly common in the social circles I run in. Asian guys with latinas is becoming more common and even Asian guys with black girls (Timothy DeLaGhetto is a good example of both).

3. White women are the ones who tend to usually opt out of interracial relationships unless it is with black men. I have met a lot of white women that had a black male fetish or were very open to dating black guys, as I said these were attractive women too. Don't see white women with hispanics unless the latino himself looks completely white, as for white women with other races it rarely happens.