Have you also seen this pattern in interracial relationships?

[Bokanovsky]

They go for money. You won't see a single hot white female go for a black guy that doesn't have money.

I think that's only one part of the equation. There are a lot of rich asians out there (a lot more than rich blacks, that's for sure) but you rarely see them with hot white girls. I think it's because our media stereotypes asians as uncool and blacks as cool.

 

[Good Gao]

Good point Bokan, it seems like the group of men that make the highest salary on average here in America (Asians and Indians) are also the group of men who are least desired by white women. Even in PUA, the asians you see struggling with white girls are usually engineers and I believe DJ Fuji shared his story about this.

Could it also be that these guys are going after white girls from affluent families?

Most of the black guy - white girl couples I met in Chicago and Philly involved white girls who, though attractive, were from more working class and middle class type areas. Some even told me they didn't see many asians or indians outside of corner store owners.

I notice this among interracial couples and social class too, when I have been to more working class areas and middle class neighborhoods I have seen quite a few white girls with black guys and to a much lesser extent latino guys. In well off areas like the suburbs and rich neighborhoods, it is almost always white guys with asian girls and rarely do you see white girls in interracial relationships.

There must be a strong correlation between a woman's social class and her willingness to go interracial.

It seems like asian and indian guys are screwed because they are mostly around the yuppie and rich white girls who are objectively a lot more elitist than a middle class white girl.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I don't think it has much to do with class, to be honest. Here in Toronto, there are a lot more indians and asians than there are blacks and any woman, regardless of class, would have plenty of exposure to these groups. Yet, you rarely see white women dating them. I think it has more to do with the fact that asians and indians in North America are perceived, rightly or wrongly, as nerdy, shy and "funny", which is obviously seen as a negative by most women.

On a side note, I honestly don't see why minority men are so desperate to date white women in the first place. Does your status in your community go up if you date a white woman or something? As a minority in an interracial relationship, you will never be able to control the frame because of your lower perceived social ranking.

 

[backbreaker]

nevermind. i' m not gonna do it. tempting lol, but i'm not gonna do it

 

[Who Dares Win]

I see the troll stuck better ask a question, why do you think when we talk of interracial dating we always take white women as the main point as if women of other races didnt exist?

Why we never read a white guy complaining he cannot have black or indian girls?

Im curious what speed dawg and jayleen think about it.

 

[Good Gao]

White women have all the power in North America, by that I mean their opinions matter more because it also influences the opinions of women of other races. When I did well with white girls, I noticed it was easier for me to get girls of minority groups, especially the asian girls that swore off from dating asian guys. Outside of that, white women are also the majority in most places so almost all the hot girls you come across are going to be white due to numbers alone.

As for Toronto, I know what you are talking about, I saw the same thing growing up in Vancouver. My race played a big role in my development because the only women I would get any good results from were asian women who were more traditional. As men, we want to **** as many different women as possible and we want the best kind of women out there. Settling for less is not what don juans do and I think that is why a lot of guys even joined this forum, to get better results than they were before.

Right now I am in a relationship with a woman who is white and good looking but even through all that, I have seen the amount of hate I receive compared to black guys dating white girls or white guys dating minority girls. As much as I have tried to ignore the race part of it, eventually you just realize that is a part of you and people will always see you as your race first. I recently received a message from a senior member here saying that this forum has a history of asian guys (and indians) who talk about their inability to get white women and then ignore any advice that is given to them. I was not looking for advice, just having a random conversation with you guys. Don't see why there is a need to freak out.

 

[Good Gao]

Why we never read a white guy complaining he cannot have black or indian girls?

Im curious what speed dawg and jayleen think about it.

Because white guys can easily have black or indian or any girls out there. Also in general I have found women of minority groups to be a lot easier than white girls but for me it was that inability I had to get white girls when starting out which gave me motivation to approach as many of them as possible. I almost exclusively prefer white girls these days and am just not interested in women of minority groups anymore. Back when I was starting out I was more liberal in my preference but these days I exclusively go for white girls because for some reason I just feel better being with them. It probably does make me a racist but I don't really care.

Just growing up and seeing asian girls actively put me down and go for white guys and white girls ignore me, it caused a fire to light inside of me to where I only go for white girls now and usually cute looking ones. This doesn't sit too well with many people but I don't see the point in lying about a preference.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Because white guys can easily have black or indian or any girls out there. Also in general I have found women of minority groups to be a lot easier than white girls but for me it was that inability I had to get white girls when starting out which gave me motivation to approach as many of them as possible. I almost exclusively prefer white girls these days and am just not interested in women of minority groups anymore. Back when I was starting out I was more liberal in my preference but these days I exclusively go for white girls because for some reason I just feel better being with them. It probably does make me a racist but I don't really care.

Just growing up and seeing asian girls actively put me down and go for white guys and white girls ignore me, it caused a fire to light inside of me to where I only go for white girls now and usually cute looking ones. This doesn't sit too well with many people but I don't see the point in lying about a preference.

I dont think anybody will accuse you of being racist just because u want only whites, I mean you would be if you were white but since minorities cannot be racist you are fine.

I dont see a point in lying about preferences as well, I mean as long as that point is not to avoid the racist stigma if you are white.

 

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I have met and seen quite a few white girls that date or were with black guys (very common in Phili) but I rarely see them going for other minority groups.

If those other minority groups had 5 or 6 decades dedicated solely to glorifying them whilst simultaneously demonizing white men I'm sure it would be a different story. Black guys have just been fortunate enough to be used for our "handlers" plans for the miscegenation of white gentiles. It's not really taking off as fast as the average self hating white libtard cuckold fantasizes about but they are busily working on it. Mind you when one race (well inner city blue state white leftoids more precisely) now has no cultural identity of it's own and apes another races culture, that's not bad going. As much as I don't want to admit it the effectiveness of that deserves a hat tip on it's own

 

[Good Gao]

I always get the impression that white "liberals" (both men and women) like blacks but hate all other minority groups, particularly asian males. My girlfriend is a White girl that actually supports the republican party and before me she was dating a Mexican. From my own experience, white "conservatives" that people try to label as racists actually judge people based on their character and quality as opposed to liberals who will talk about tolerance but try to be as far away from minorities as possible.

Even at places like elite universities, most interracial couples you will see involve white men with other races and rarely white women with other races. A lot of the race studies such as the one conducted by Columbia University was done mainly on the students there and they clearly proved that White Liberal females who are from well off areas are heavily against mixing with men of other races. Now the city of Phili which is liberal might be another story and so might Chicago but as I said, most of the women I met dating interracial were not from these affluent families.

Seeing this in action for myself, I have witnessed that minorities who had their act together and were quality guys had no issues dating women of any race in red states and more conservative areas. On the other hand, when you went to these "racially diverse" areas such as San Francisco or Vancouver you saw that there was an obvious division of the races.

I have to hand it to white liberals here in the US, they might go on and on about how they love all races but while their words say one thing, their actions do the complete opposite.

 

[VikingKing]

I always get the impression that white "liberals" (both men and women) like blacks but hate all other minority groups, particularly asian males. My girlfriend is a White girl that actually supports the republican party and before me she was dating a Mexican. From my own experience, white "conservatives" that people try to label as racists actually judge people based on their character and quality as opposed to liberals who will talk about tolerance but try to be as far away from minorities as possible.

Even at places like elite universities, most interracial couples you will see involve white men with other races and rarely white women with other races. A lot of the race studies such as the one conducted by Columbia University was done mainly on the students there and they clearly proved that White Liberal females who are from well off areas are heavily against mixing with men of other races. Now the city of Phili which is liberal might be another story and so might Chicago but as I said, most of the women I met dating interracial were not from these affluent families.

Seeing this in action for myself, I have witnessed that minorities who had their act together and were quality guys had no issues dating women of any race in red states and more conservative areas. On the other hand, when you went to these "racially diverse" areas such as San Francisco or Vancouver you saw that there was an obvious division of the races.

I have to hand it to white liberals here in the US, they might go on and on about how they love all races but while their words say one thing, their actions do the complete opposite.

So does crying about it help you? Maybe you should group together and demand a law where a certain amount of minorities get white blonds. Demand it! Strap a bomb to yourself until you get what you want! Eventually some one will feel enough pity for you and give you what you want. (thats give, not earn).

 

[Good Gao]

Does it bother anyone else how women are allowed to have any kind of preference while men aren't? Like for example, white women can say all the brutal things about why they won't date asian guys and most people will nod their heads while if a white male says he won't date most black women people will give him hell for it. Same with asians, I have lost the number of times I heard asian women openly ridicule asian men and not a thing was said either one of those times. Then you have a guy like me, when I say I have a preference for white women IRL, I get called all sorts of nasty names.

It's the same way in other sexual preferences too. Women can say they want a guy who is in shape, has a high paying job, charismatic, and classically handsome and all people will do is say "you go girl!" Now when us men say we want women in shape....

"PIG!"
"SHALLOW!"

All the names in the book.